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MJeff posted:Raw was doing 0.8s in the demo earlier in the year. I honestly don't understand why USA and FOX continue to throw money at them and not demand any accountability. I can only assume their other shows continue to show the same declines and they're scared shitless of continued cord cutting. USA in particular seems desperate to be able to claim "#1 cable network" or whatever highly specific metric even if it means killing NXT's ratings.
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Never assume that the people making billion-dollar decisions actually know what the gently caress they're doing.
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Rarity posted:Being smart and being in charge of things are not related concepts
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its fine, as long as there isn't literally anything else to watch on tv, raw viewers will tune in
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Tato posted:I honestly don't understand why USA and FOX continue to throw money at them and not demand any accountability. I can only assume their other shows continue to show the same declines and they're scared shitless of continued cord cutting. USA in particular seems desperate to be able to claim "#1 cable network" or whatever highly specific metric even if it means killing NXT's ratings. IIRC USA's ratings are falling faster than Raw's, and FOX is FOX, they've pissed away money on worse things than the opportunity to not worry at all about friday nights. Not saying either of those are wise choices, but I imagine that's the reasoning. Hell if I were worth billions and billions I'd throw away some toilet paper money in order to not have to think about an entire evening of programming for a few years.
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WWE stock crashed when Vince kayfabe sold it to Trump. The people with money in our society are all incredibly stupid.
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HHH is going to inherit the company after Vince has poisoned it into irrelevance and that owns.
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TheKingslayer posted:HHH is going to inherit the company after Vince has poisoned it into irrelevance and that owns. No problem, he just needs to do what made NXT popular in the first place and sign a bunch of indie wrestlers to put on amazing matches. Oh wait what's that, he managed to gently caress that up with awful booking? And you go on to say that there's now a successful promotion that does this except they have good booking? Hmmmm
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Critical posted:quick thought: if you only compare raw, is current product worse than the guest host era? Yes. some guest hosts were fun, like Bob Barker. Some Raws with guest hosts, like Dusty Rhodes, were loving amazing.
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Reality Protester posted:Yes. some guest hosts were fun, like Bob Barker. Some Raws with guest hosts, like Dusty Rhodes, were loving amazing. Was this the one where Randy punched Dusty and the crowd was begging Cody to beat the poo poo out of him? And then he didn't and WWE edited out all the chants?
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that's the one. the crowd was so ready for Cody to turn, but nah, gotta spin the wheels some more.
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Reality Protester posted:that's the one. the crowd was so ready for Cody to turn, but nah, gotta spin the wheels some more. Didn't they do the exact same thing with Ted Dibiase and got the same reaction? I like how that one ended with Randy Orton as the face beating both Cody and Ted in a handicap match.
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bartok posted:Didn't they do the exact same thing with Ted Dibiase and got the same reaction? I like how that one ended with Randy Orton as the face beating both Cody and Ted in a handicap match. Everyone knows the only way to make new stars is to continually put the old stars over.
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vivazomo posted:Raw You love to see it, folks 
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those numbers are better than aew, which is doing incredible numbers
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smart. ratings would go up.
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Cavauro posted:those numbers are better than aew, which is doing incredible numbers AEW hasn’t been on for 30 years
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i changed my mind so don't read the below. It's not my opinion shows that go on for a long time decline in ratings, while new shows gain ratings and become the top shows within 1 to 3 seasons. they outshine old shows very much. and regardless of this, the numbers for shows are either bad or good based on what the number is. to elaborate, aew has captured the hopes of many online people who know that wwe is extremely bad content. it has potential, and is playing the underdog to what's being described—currently—as an unequivocal abject failure in every way. in a "rooting" sense, i understand calling a certain amount of viewers good and 1.5 to 2x that number bad. but consider how evidence suggests that the maximum viewership for wrestling in 2020 is about 2 million per weekday as long as it's on a real channel during a real timeslot. if you respect logic and deductive reasoning, getting everything running and being a second company/owner taking advantage of said viewership is the real accomplishment. the current numbers should be met with spitting, or the crossing of arms and turning of heads, regardless of the show. i want to really be impressed before doing the number rooting. i changed my mind so don't read the above. It's not my opinion Cavauro fucked around with this message at 07:23 on Dec 16, 2020 |
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He's saying what we're all thinking
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TheKingslayer posted:HHH is going to inherit the company after Vince has poisoned it into irrelevance and that owns. He will be revealed to be a B+ booker.
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1glitch0 posted:He will be revealed to be a B+ booker. I mean, I’d take that compared to the D- poo poo we’re getting now
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Give the pencil to whoever wrote the thing where the lights go out, and when they turn on Michael Cole is a skeleton
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Blasmeister posted:I mean, I’d take that compared to the D- poo poo we’re getting now That's being extremely generous
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Quantum of Phallus posted:That's being extremely generous Probably tipping my hand that I’ve not actually watched any WWE since the debut of RAW underground
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I can't wait for USA to continue to shell out the Big Bucks for Raw when the time for contract negotiations comes up regardless of ratings because Raw is all they got, rendering this entire conversation fruitless. Then, realizing he can literally do no wrong with USA Vince just decides 'gently caress it, why am I even bothering to make a show at this point' and USA shows a 3 hour test screen every Monday. The test screen does a 1.2.
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I think raw is in its third season now so they should really be doing much better numbers
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ChrisBTY posted:I can't wait for USA to continue to shell out the Big Bucks for Raw when the time for contract negotiations comes up regardless of ratings because Raw is all they got, rendering this entire conversation fruitless. Then, realizing he can literally do no wrong with USA Vince just decides 'gently caress it, why am I even bothering to make a show at this point' and USA shows a 3 hour test screen every Monday. The test screen does a 1.2. the Big Bucks are Big Show and a rehired Big Cass dressed as Matt and Nick Jackson.
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vivazomo posted:Raw That reminds me we're coming up on on the 2 year anniversary of this  Which did Hour 1: 2.717m, .93 Hour 2: 2.558 m, .87 Hour 3: 2.367m, .78
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Lets face it the fans are horrible bookers and putting us in charge was a mistake.
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1glitch0 posted:He will be revealed to be a B+ booker. His storylines are going to be a 7 treated like a 10 so it’ll seem like they’re a 4.
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OctoberCountry posted:That reminds me we're coming up on on the 2 year anniversary of this Also gonna remind people, when this promo happened they thought they had the Elite pretty much signed, to the point one of Dave’s sources invited him to the Rumble to see them debut.
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bladeworksmaster posted:Also gonna remind people, when this promo happened they thought they had the Elite pretty much signed, to the point one of Dave’s sources invited him to the Rumble to see them debut. Them being so confident that they were signing all of The Elite that they did this dumbass promo is maybe one of my favorite wrestling things of all time.
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Ganso Bomb posted:Them being so confident that they were signing all of The Elite that they did this dumbass promo is maybe one of my favorite wrestling things of all time. Knowing how things turned out, it's just so perfect. People have said it a ton, but good god they would've been so misused/beaten down in WWE. If the Jacksons really do want to retire soon, they would've mailed it in so hard.
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Lid posted:I wish this extended to normal TV shows with declining in the mud ratings So what I'm hearing is, I need to go rewatch Hannibal. On it.
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bladeworksmaster posted:Also gonna remind people, when this promo happened they thought they had the Elite pretty much signed, to the point one of Dave’s sources invited him to the Rumble to see them debut. And since they jumped the gun on promising new faces showing up on the main roster they did panic call ups of Gargano and Ciampa (ruining their years long blood feud story), Ricochet and Aleister Black (who are now doing nothing), and EC3 (who was forced to work with a concussion and was then fired).
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