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People are freaking out over the fact that basically pornhub kept letting people upload underage videos and rape videos and it was getting to be such a high proportion that now they're only going to run the 2394209433454857347544 hours of professionally produced pornography that exist instead of allow random people to upload heinous crimes.
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The whole hub model is kind of fascinating to me. There had to have been money in uploading videos, but I don't totally understand where it comes from for the uploader (I get how the site owner gets paid).
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Dec 15, 2020 05:55
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Rick posted:The whole hub model is kind of fascinating to me. There had to have been money in uploading videos, but I don't totally understand where it comes from for the uploader (I get how the site owner gets paid). It is really quite simple. Phase 1: Drop underpants Phase 2: ? Phase 3: Profit
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Dec 15, 2020 06:00
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Rick posted:The whole hub model is kind of fascinating to me. There had to have been money in uploading videos, but I don't totally understand where it comes from for the uploader (I get how the site owner gets paid). People been profiting off their genitals since the dawn of mankind. Hubs can be a link to only fans or websites or wherever else has a "give them money" button.
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Dec 15, 2020 06:51
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FlamingLiberal posted:The world's biggest porn site removed at least half of its content after companies like Visa and Mastercard stopped letting people purchase subscriptions with them. The numbers I saw said prior to this they had 13 million videos, and now they only have 3 million. It's as loving nuclear as they could get, and the PR language coming out now is Pornhub now has a stricter submission policy then any other online media company, Twitter/Facebook/YT/TikTok etc. Rick posted:The whole hub model is kind of fascinating to me. There had to have been money in uploading videos, but I don't totally understand where it comes from for the uploader (I get how the site owner gets paid). The internet equivalent of a tip jar. The 1% probably make decent money off ad revenue but its all about direct consumer engagement hoping people link through to onlyfans/social media/camster etc.
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Dec 15, 2020 09:42
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I liken it to when celebrities have podcasts. Unless you're Joe Rogan you're probably not making much money, but it's good for promoting your other stuff. If you want to get meta, there's a Pornhub podcast that makes very little money promoting stars who make almost nothing on a platform that mostly serves to direct traffic to their paying gigs.
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Dec 15, 2020 14:19
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Rick posted:The whole hub model is kind of fascinating to me. There had to have been money in uploading videos, but I don't totally understand where it comes from for the uploader (I get how the site owner gets paid). Which I assume comes with the requisite "hah, good luck ever trying to get rid of this we own it forever" clause in all of porn.
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Dec 15, 2020 15:50
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Rick posted:The whole hub model is kind of fascinating to me. There had to have been money in uploading videos, but I don't totally understand where it comes from for the uploader (I get how the site owner gets paid). A very tiny cut of the ad revenue on the page. If you have a video goes viral then it can be an okay check but for most it's a check small enough to be worth hanging up for the comedy value.
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Dec 15, 2020 19:13
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Thomamelas posted:A very tiny cut of the ad revenue on the page. If you have a video goes viral then it can be an okay check but for most it's a check small enough to be worth hanging up for the comedy value. My friends band got paid $16 split 5 ways for their song being played on the season finale of shameless last year. I know video plays and music licensing are different. But the point is you don’t get much when you’re relatively obscure.
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Dec 16, 2020 07:56
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The American Dream posted:My friends band got paid $16 split 5 ways for their song being played on the season finale of shameless last year. Yeah but $16 = 35 million exposurebucks. They're rich!
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Dec 16, 2020 16:12
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I'm guessing music licensing is far more costly for home video like DVD releases. The reason why stuff like Daria and Beavis & Butthead collections are absolutely gutted in the music department. Or it's yet another matter of publishers (record labels) getting 99% of the revenue and the artists get jack poo poo? "We already paid you to make those recordings!"
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Dec 16, 2020 18:07
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Ofecks posted:I'm guessing music licensing is far more costly for home video like DVD releases. No one's going to bother with the 30 TNG S5 sets that got sold on VHS. But DVD and streaming made it so that the renegotiation of those licenses just became crazy expensive. poo poo like Daria was probably a nice deal where "Hey, Gettin Jiggy with it can use some more rotations throw it in here" since MTV was just promoting poo poo at the time.
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Dec 16, 2020 18:32
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A combination of record labels being, probably to no one's surprise, absurdly greedy, spiteful and short-sighted, and no one seeing DVDs coming. Hell, took a while for TV stations to realise people might want to watch a thing more than once.
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Ofecks posted:I'm guessing music licensing is far more costly for home video like DVD releases. it is. they've got to renegotiate it for every new technology, and the companies make more money every time. this is an informative take on it: https://www.vox.com/2014/11/3/7145231/shows-not-on-dvd-music-rights-wonder-years-wkrp FilthyImp posted:poo poo like Daria was probably a nice deal where "Hey, Gettin Jiggy with it can use some more rotations throw it in here" since MTV was just promoting poo poo at the time. I specifically remember the State having this problem... they got to use any music they wanted, which led to this sketch that used the Breeders' "Cannonball" using whatever this non-Cannonball song is: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Ksb8P0rK74U&t=10m26s
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Dec 16, 2020 18:49
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Empty Sandwich posted:it is. they've got to renegotiate it for every new technology, and the companies make more money every time. this is why De La Soul's first two albums, two stupendously important records, aren't available for streaming or download. They only cleared the samples for records and CDs and tapes. So only the post-fame records are readily available.
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Dec 16, 2020 18:52
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Wonder Years was a comedy?
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It's a comedy-drama and also depressing as hell.
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divabot posted:this is why De La Soul's first two albums, two stupendously important records, aren't available for streaming or download. They only cleared the samples for records and CDs and tapes. So only the post-fame records are readily available. and loving Tommy Boy won't negotiate in good faith. 
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Dec 16, 2020 19:08
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Empty Sandwich posted:I specifically remember the State having this problem... they got to use any music they wanted, which led to this sketch that used the Breeders' "Cannonball" using whatever this non-Cannonball song is: I love this kind of thing because I think soundalike songs are pretty hilarious. I often wonder about the people whose job it is to come up with these songs and make sure they are close enough to be kinda identifiable but not illegal.
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Dec 16, 2020 19:24
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Ofecks posted:I'm guessing music licensing is far more costly for home video like DVD releases. The reason why stuff like Daria and Beavis & Butthead collections are absolutely gutted in the music department. Or it's yet another matter of publishers (record labels) getting 99% of the revenue and the artists get jack poo poo? "We already paid you to make those recordings!"
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FilthyImp posted:I think it's a combination of complete home sets being a relatively 'new' thing due to technology. This is what I recall from coming up previously. No one foresaw being able to contain an entire TV series in a handful of CDs until DVD blinked into existence, so licensing deals were different prior. Once DVD happened they had to renegotiate ever last deal because it was something that wasn't covered. MTV was a special case, because their music rights were covered on the channel itself, so they could put whatever they wanted on B&B or Daria without having to negotiate rights. This is why they couldn't put the videos on home video, and had to use generic music for Daria.
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MTV told the record companies that if they wanted their video played then mtv has the rights to use the song on any show. So they used all those songs on Bevis, the state, Daria, real world etc. That didn’t include future dvd and streaming releases because those didn’t exist at the time. I’m not sure if vhs was included. I know the state and Daria complete sets were delayed a couple years in the late 2000s because they had to remove all the original music and replace it with generic music they could get the rights to. This includes the theme songs to wrestlers Hardcore Holly and Jeff Hardy. Obviously the BnBH dvd releases didn’t include the music videos in them. When they did that season 10 years ago having them watch teen mom and jersey shore was awesome and accurate because that’s what mtv shows now all day. On a side note, mtv better pray to god that rob drydek doesn’t get metoo’d because I’m pretty his funny video show is on 6 hours a day minimum.
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Vandar posted:It's a comedy-drama and also depressing as hell. It's a descent into madness: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6d8h-tOKYTU
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Dec 16, 2020 20:13
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hallo spacedog posted:I love this kind of thing because I think soundalike songs are pretty hilarious. I often wonder about the people whose job it is to come up with these songs and make sure they are close enough to be kinda identifiable but not illegal. I'm always amazed by their resourcefulness. I used to hear this a lot of this on Wonder Pets, of all things. they once played a few bars of Not Low Rider Wink Wink that were immediately identifiable but not the actual song
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Ofecks posted:I'm guessing music licensing is far more costly for home video like DVD releases. The reason why stuff like Daria and Beavis & Butthead collections are absolutely gutted in the music department. Or it's yet another matter of publishers (record labels) getting 99% of the revenue and the artists get jack poo poo? "We already paid you to make those recordings!" There's a show that was broadcast on the BBC called Top Gear and some of my enjoyment of it comes from the fact that they use really good soundtracks from movies like Tron:Legacy or Batman Begins, or say "Fortunate Son" for a show in Vietnam, with DVD releases and the like similarly replacing the music, and I'm not sure how anyone could enjoy it as much without the original music intact. Obviously same for such 'inferior' versions of Beavis and Butthead and the like.
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Dec 16, 2020 20:36
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like one in three car montages on top gear used an amon tobin song
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Hell, took a while for TV stations to realise people might want to watch a thing more than once.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:A combination of record labels being, probably to no one's surprise, absurdly greedy, spiteful and short-sighted, and no one seeing DVDs coming. Hell, took a while for TV stations to realise people might want to watch a thing more than once. It took movie studios decades to realize people might want to watch a thing more than once. At least with TV there's the excuse there originally was no good way of preserving the broadcasts.
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Dec 16, 2020 21:41
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The only reason we can still watch I Love Lucy, the Twilight Zone, the Honeymooners, etc is because Desilu Productions had the foresight to save all the recordings of those shows way back then.
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Dec 16, 2020 22:35
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Alhazred posted:BBC almost erased the entire Monty Python show after IT was broadcast. Which one was it who had the foresight and bought the tapes from the BBC? Terry Jones?
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Dec 16, 2020 22:37
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Pope Corky the IX posted:The only reason we can still watch I Love Lucy, the Twilight Zone, the Honeymooners, etc is because Desilu Productions had the foresight to save all the recordings of those shows way back then.
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Pope Corky the IX posted:The only reason we can still watch I Love Lucy, the Twilight Zone, the Honeymooners, etc is because Desilu Productions had the foresight to save all the recordings of those shows way back then. Audrey meadows, Alice from the honeymooners, was the first person to have rerun residuals written into her contract. The Classic 39 episodes ran nightly in many markets for several decades. Including WPIX in nyc at like 11pm for over 30 years. Finally in the mid 80s Jackie Gleason sold the rights to the honeymooners skits from his variety shows in the 50s to be re-edited and added to syndication. It added a hundred or so episodes that hadn’t been seen since the 50s.
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Dec 16, 2020 23:40
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Alhazred posted:BBC almost erased the entire Monty Python show after IT was broadcast. The most recent "lost" BBC show aired in the mid-late 80s (due to confusion over who was going to keep a master copy between the BBC and the production company)
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Dec 17, 2020 17:28
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Considering that parts of the BBC in the 60's and 70's were run like the government employment program for the pedophiles you'd also want to erase every document and media material you can get access to.
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Turbinosamente posted:Which one was it who had the foresight and bought the tapes from the BBC? Terry Jones? Someone at the BBC called Jones and gave him a head's up, Jones then had to smuggle the tapes out.
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Dec 17, 2020 21:55
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 Fry’s, 4 years ago
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Zesty posted:
Eau de Goon
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Dec 20, 2020 12:16
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Obviously, the answer was they needed more cologne. If only they'd gone all-in on man smells, they'd be better off now. That is a lot of loving cologne though.
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Related to Fry's, what did Best Buy do that turned it around? I recall they were on bankruptcy's door and seem profitable again.
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Mercury Ballistic posted:Related to Fry's, what did Best Buy do that turned it around? I recall they were on bankruptcy's door and seem profitable again. Started giving fair and up front pricing and price matches Amazon. Probably helps that they’re the last retailer standing , so they probably get more volume now than there isn’t a circuit city , etc splitting customers with them.
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