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FancyMike posted:https://twitter.com/thefilmstage/status/1337086857973215233?s=21 OH MY GOD IT'S HAPPENINGGGGGGGGGGGGG
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Kart Barfunkel posted:Edits aside, does this set meet expectations? Doesn't have an unedited version of The Grandmaster, so no 
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VoodooXT posted:It's Criterion so probably Region A. Bergman and Agnes sets were region free so I am keeping my fingers crossed for now!
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Cold Milk Bottle posted:Any of you folk ever send Criterion an email to suggest an addition to the Collection? I emailed once about Inland Empire and I'm sure they've never gotten that one before If they ever put Little Odessa in the collection I am going to take the credit for suggesting it to them
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The specs on this set are terrible, and the revisionism it’s pushing is actively pissing me off, as it should anyone who cares about film preservation and access.
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Genuine question: how do we know the digital encoding of the DVDs and older Blu-Rays are truer to the original films than these new ones?
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pospysyl posted:Genuine question: how do we know the digital encoding of the DVDs and older Blu-Rays are truer to the original films than these new ones? Well, the changes people are talking about aren't things that can be accomplished with adjustments to the pictures. Notice how hardly anyone is talking about changing the aspect ratio to 1.66:1 for two of the films? That's because that kind of change is quite normal. But the other changes are things that needed to be done after the fact, like coloring specific items in a black and white shot. As for what is truer to the director's intention - that's impossible to say. Directors can be fickle. Look at Apocalypse Now. We had redux, but now we have the final cut. Lucas kept making changes to the original Star Wars trilogy. At some point, intention becomes hard to know. The question is are people who only see these versions getting something that holds up on its own? That I can't say.
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Some CC picks to check out before they leave Dec 31: The Elephant Man The Haunting The Awful Truth Bad Day at Black Rock Trouble in Paradise Videodrome Cache The Illusionist Mother Theater of Blood
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pospysyl posted:Genuine question: how do we know the digital encoding of the DVDs and older Blu-Rays are truer to the original films than these new ones? You can compare it to theatrical prints.
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Cemetry Gator posted:Notice how hardly anyone is talking about changing the aspect ratio to 1.66:1 for two of the films? That's because that kind of change is quite normal. I could dedicate my life to OAR zealotry but I don't want to be that kind of pedant.
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Zogo posted:I could dedicate my life to OAR zealotry but I don't want to be that kind of pedant. From 2000 to about 2004, I was that kind of pedant. I worked as a cashier at Walmart for a brief stint and recall convincing a random person to go back and get the widescreen version of the A Beautiful Mind DVD instead of the fullscreen version.
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Zogo posted:I could dedicate my life to OAR zealotry but I don't want to be that kind of pedant. But is this not keeping with the OAR spirit? If they shot for 1.66:1, but had to display it in 1.85:1, then isn't 1.66:1 the OAR?
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I've always believed the OAR spirit is actually the correct aspect ratio, not just whichever came first. In other words, what the director intended. So a director changing the AR of his movies doesn't bug me too much.
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Spatulater bro! posted:I've always believed the OAR spirit is actually the correct aspect ratio, not just whichever came first. In other words, what the director intended. So a director changing the AR of his movies doesn't bug me too much. Giving free license to artists in the present can be a problem, though, because over time their ideas and preferences change, and not always for the good. When given the chance, Vittorio Storaro changed the AR of all of his films on home video to 2:1 because it's the same AR as Da Vinci's painting The Last Supper, even if it fucks up the original composition. Ridiculous poo poo like that. Original intent can be a problem too, like with Friedkin desaturating The French Connection and giving it a pale blue tint because he "always wanted it to look that way". It's a case by case basis thing and taste is always tricky, of course, but sometimes films should just be left alone to stand as a testament of what was achieved, and not what could have been achieved if only they had more money/time/technology/control.
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Cemetry Gator posted:But is this not keeping with the OAR spirit? If they shot for 1.66:1, but had to display it in 1.85:1, then isn't 1.66:1 the OAR? With Chungking Express and In the Mood for Love I'd say definitely yes. The Fallen Angels situation is open for debate as it has become evident that there is more than one "OAR spirit" in the sphere of cinema. It intersects with the ship of Theseus issue somewhat: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ship_of_Theseus Anyway, in my earlier post I was just making a general statement. I could make a post everyday ITT and other threads about about some bad aspect ratio issue. The amount of 2.35:1 films changed to 1.77:1 and 2.35:1/1.85:1 films changed to 1.33:1 is insane. It's the worst part of the streaming experience on Tubi, Netflix, Prime et al. So many films aren't right. I'll begrudgingly live with 1.85:1 down to 1.77:1 but it isn't right.
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Escobarbarian posted:Any word yet on the region? In the Blu ray com forums they said that the March release will be region A locked but in April they will release a region B box set. So it seems like there are some shenanigans in terms of licensing. Otherwise they could have done it in one sweep. EDIT: beaten to the punch. :-(
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My wife was just saying how much she loves Secrets and Lies and didn't realize it was a Mike Leigh joint! This is great!
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Secrets and Lies is (like almost every other Leigh) an absolute masterpiece, though it's a shame this release is so bare-bones.
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Ratedargh posted:https://twitter.com/Criterion/status/1338905999873355777?s=19 That's good. I've been looking for Celine and Julie Go Boating for years.
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I haven't seen it but almost everyone I know who has seen it has, unlike Out 1, actually enjoyed it, so I assume yes.
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I’m a Rivette lover, so take this for what it’s worth: Céline and Julie is one of his most accessible films, as well as one of his best. It’s probably the one I’d give newcomers.
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https://youtu.be/05XfGmH2zG4 Royal Ocean Film Society posted this. I think the video may share the thoughts and feelings of many of those in here.
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oneforthevine posted:I’m a Rivette lover, so take this for what it’s worth: Céline and Julie is one of his most accessible films, as well as one of his best. It’s probably the one I’d give newcomers. What's your opinion of Out 1?
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I finished twin peaks a few weeks ago and have been going through other Lynch works. I finally watched Mullholland Drive and few thoughts: 1.) I wish the blue ray had the timeline feature like many other films had now. I had to split up watching the movie, so it would have be nice to quickly get back to where i left off instead of fast forwarding. But not a major issue. 2.) David Lynch really likes red curtains. 3.) This movie felt like it has a lot in common with Persona, and is almost an American version of it. I am still digesting the movie and have read a few interpretations, but the similarity in plots pieces (young blond taking care of a famous actress, then growing to hate/merge with her) and the themes of duality just reminded me a lot of Persona.
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checkplease posted:I finished twin peaks a few weeks ago and have been going through other Lynch works. I finally watched Mullholland Drive and few thoughts: David Lynch is specifically against this. If it's got his seal of approval, it will probably not have chapters.
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Spatulater bro! posted:What's your opinion of Out 1? I like Out 1, but it’s nowhere near his finest work (I have it at 11th of the 21 I’ve seen). Those theater exercises are tough going, and if you’re not invested in how Rivette shapes the narrative almost piecemeal around what could otherwise be a documentary, you probably won’t enjoy the payoffs as much. (And I totally get that being the case.) Celine and Julie really isn’t anything like that, though. It’s meandering, and it’s long, but they operate in two very different tonal registers. I actually don’t think Out 1 is all that representative of Rivette’s work as a whole, style-wise. (My two favorites of his are a musical and a love story.)
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Franchescanado posted:David Lynch is specifically against this. If it's got his seal of approval, it will probably not have chapters. What is his reason for this? He wants people to watch in one sitting, or doesnt like chapter titles?
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The former. And you should watch movies in one sitting! You’re spot-on with the Persona comparison
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BeanpolePeckerwood posted:Any whispers on whether Wild at Heart and Lost Highway might get releases? I know shoutfactory had a Wild At Heart blu a while back but yeah I get the impression that Lynch has grown attached to the criterion treatment because they do whatever he wants. Kino has Lost Highway but Lynch had some consternation about the release https://www.indiewire.com/2019/06/kino-lorber-david-lynch-lost-highway-blu-ray-1202152631
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Lynch eschewing chapter stops goes back to some of the earliest DVD releases of his films with approved transfers - The Straight Story (2000 - Disney), The Elephant Man (2001 - Paramount), Mulholland Dr. (2002 - Universal). While MGM let Lynch supervise remasters of Blue Velvet and Wild at Heart, they still had chapter menus and stops. What's funny about Lynch is that while he is particular about his films, he's absolutely anti-revisionist to the point where color grading is barely different across releases that he supervised.
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