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In fairness the rules are massively unclear a lot of the time and appear to contradict each other in places, particularly as "bubble" can mean one of several things with wildly different rules. If I were a cynic I'd say this was by design.
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Ewan posted:You're right. I read it somewhere but now looking back I must have read something false or misunderstood. You probably did read it correctly, then they changed the rules 8 times that week and almost 1,500 times since then. Almost as if they want them to be so confusing as to shift their complete failure of handling this onto the population e: ^^^ uhh what he said
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Party Boat posted:This is incorrect. That's good news, my mum has decided I'm part of her support bubble whether I like it or not. Looks like I'm gonna have to visit.. We've only just got back in touch after 20 odd years. Good job I'm a stereotypical goon & have been involuntarily isolating...err.. training.. yes that's better.. most my life for this kind of stuff!
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tonight is kecske vs. tub of roses the rematch. my plan this time is to begin with the dense centred hazelnut whirl and work my way down in order of chewing effort and end on the soft and easily eatable orange creme
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Is it Roses that have the green, triangle, tin foil wrapped chocolate & chopped nut thing? Anyways.. I loving love them!
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that's quality street which the wife won't allow because it's nestlé
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I'm not going over to my parents this Christmas, we're both in Tier 4 areas and my mum was more OK with it than I thought she would be. She's going over to my uncle's tomorrow to bring him a Christmas lunch and tidy his place up; she basically is looking after him as he doesn't do it himself. I don't think it's a great idea but can't really do anything about it. She wants to then come to mine and drop me a lunch as well and do an exchange of presents. This will be distanced, i.e. I'll put my stuff on the doorstep and she'll pick it up and leave hers and then we can have a chat from across the front garden. This is probably pretty low-risk, right?
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Dec 23, 2020 19:55
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kecske posted:that's quality street which the wife won't allow because it's nestlé Well that's Roses off the shopping list!! groundwater rights controversy be damned..
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Lemon posted:I'm not going over to my parents this Christmas, we're both in Tier 4 areas and my mum was more OK with it than I thought she would be. no don't do it!! lock yourself in your fridge!!! see no-one!!!! the "one person meeting one other person outside at a distance" thing is like the least risky thing you can do, and the social/mental health benefits will probably outweigh the minimal risk there. the uncle thing sounds a bit dicier, but, like, if the dude's not doing well and the alternative is posting some ham through the letterbox and leaving him to squalor, you do have to weigh that up.
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quality streets also contain the hated toffee penny, the worst confectionery money can buy
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Lemon posted:I'm not going over to my parents this Christmas, we're both in Tier 4 areas and my mum was more OK with it than I thought she would be. If your uncle is otherwise socially isolated I would say the only risk is your mum & if she's isolating I can't see a high risk. Obviously take this with the caveat that I'm only some twat on the internet.
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the missus and i have achieved perfect balance over quality street because i love the strawberry ones and am ambivalent toward the green triangles, but she fuckin loves the green triangles and hates the strawberry ones
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Bobby Deluxe posted:the missus and i have achieved perfect balance over quality street because i love the strawberry ones and am ambivalent toward the green triangles, but she fuckin loves the green triangles and hates the strawberry ones I'd say you've got the perfect misses & I'm jealous but we'd only end up fighting over the green triangles. You have a good match mate, kinda chalk & cheese..
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Trainee PornStar posted:Well that's Roses off the shopping list!! groundwater rights controversy be damned.. Her specific bugbear with nestlé was the baby formula thing where they recommended to mothers in parts of the developing world to stop breastfeeding and use their formula instead which resulted in loads of infant deaths because the local water sources were all tainted so they were making up formula with contaminated water anyway for a multitude of reasons don't buy nestlé I'm sure cadbury is also an international monster
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oh no computer posted:quality streets also contain the hated toffee penny, the worst confectionery money can buy the toffee penny has destroyed two of my fillings
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kecske posted:Her specific bugbear with nestlé was the baby formula thing essentially they got midwives to get new mothers to feed their babies formula as early as possible, even giving it away free up to a certain age, knowing that if the mothers stopped breastfeeding they would stop producing milk and therefore be reliant on the formula nestlé are a powerfully evil corporation
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oh no computer posted:quality streets also contain the hated toffee penny, the worst confectionery money can buy It’s loving class mate
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My mum just dropped off pigs in blankets in the hole (or pigs in duvets, whatever, but it's sausages in bacon in yorkshire puddings) and they are delicious as ever living gently caress
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Apparently Kunt is at no.6 in the charts.. Gonna laugh my arse off if the SFW sausage roll version gets played 
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Bape Culture posted:It’s loving class mate It's loving sweet that you end up with when you crack the tin and there's only the grainy green ones and manky gold toffees left and you can't be bothered with the disappointment of yet another bland, gravelly 'hazelnut noisette' and the thought of it makes you want to barf.
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Melt them all down and mix in some single cream and Christmas spices, then use them as a pudding sauce. I have no idea if that would work.
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kecske posted:Her specific bugbear with nestlé was the baby formula thing where they recommended to mothers in parts of the developing world to stop breastfeeding and use their formula instead which resulted in loads of infant deaths because the local water sources were all tainted so they were making up formula with contaminated water Nestle is 1980s American Saturday morning cartoon supervillain levels of evil.
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Never trust the Swiss.
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Reminder that fair trade is a pay for label scam and that the rainforest alliance is anything but Welcome to capitalism
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Ratjaculation posted:the rainforest alliance is anything but I feel there's a rant here and I want to learn more.
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Ratjaculation posted:Reminder that fair trade is a pay for label scam and that the rainforest alliance is anything but Is there a way to ensure actual ethical purchases of coffee, chocolate etc or is it a lost cause
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Natalie Fartman posted:Is there a way to ensure actual ethical purchases of coffee, chocolate etc or is it a lost cause My own (limited) understanding is that it's pretty much a lost cause. Once you get big enough to start appearing in supermarkets you hit the limits of scalability where you can't adequately control what your suppliers in poorer countries are doing. What they are sometimes doing is making a ton of money through borderline slave labour by subcontracting orders and then turning a blind eye to any breaking of 'agreements' such as pesticide use, labour laws etc. etc. Purchasers from supermarkets then turn a blind eye to the disturbingly large amount of material they can source from the smallish well paid/organic/ethical farmers. Buying 'ethically sourced' products generally guarantees a higher percentage of ethically sourced material, but it's definitely also a scam on many levels. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rainforest_Alliance#Criticism_and_response https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Fairtrade_Certification_Mark#Criticism https://www.ft.com/content/d191adbc-3f4d-11db-a37c-0000779e2340 You can find a ton of articles on the various marks and certifications and how random audits are a lovely way to detect farmers or supplies gaming the system. IMHO it's still worth looking for and purchasing, even if the impact might be fairly minimal.
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E: ^^ that Even if you search around I don't think you'll ever guarantee it. It's sometimes worthwhile for a cartel to insert themselves between a legitimately trying company and their carefully chosen supplier. Standard organised crime, modern slavery & extortion stuff. World is a gently caress.
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Natalie Fartman posted:Is there a way to ensure actual ethical purchases of coffee, chocolate etc or is it a lost cause I used to buy beans from Hasbean.co.uk which afaik is just a bloke in a football shirt who goes round the world and buys direct from farms all over. Fresh roasted delivered to the door, couldn't beat the smell opening a fresh bag.
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so what you're saying is buy whatever and don't feel bad about it? sounds pretty sweet, thanks
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Natalie Fartman posted:Is there a way to ensure actual ethical purchases of coffee, chocolate etc or is it a lost cause
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Inexplicable Humblebrag posted:so what you're saying is buy whatever and don't feel bad about it? sounds pretty sweet, thanks No you should research every single item and their supply chain and feel bad about how every single item you've ever purchased is unethical in some manner. Personally I'm not happy until I've found the company ultimately owning the brand I've just purchase have racked up several humans rights violations in the Congo (or an equivalent country), polluted at least four rivers in ecologically sensitive areas, and have major investments in countries with oppressive regimes (hint, this is pretty much anyone from nestle to duracell)
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Ok, I've got to be up at 6am to get in last some minute shopping between 7am and 8am from Tesco's before doing a 10hr shift and it's now 2am and I can't sleep aaaaa aaabfbsjisnaan
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I'm also now getting super emotional and stressed that I haven't got enough adequate presents for everyone and it's ruining my festive vibes mannnn
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Hi, fellow insommniac! Yeah, I keep waking up at 2am now, then being exhausted all day, which probably isn't a sign of good health.
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Dec 24, 2020 04:33
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At this point I'm beginning to think my poor sleep habits are deliberate self sabotage.
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Dec 24, 2020 05:04
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Yeah, I'm pretty sure my subconscious doesn't like me very much, the fucker.
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Natalie Fartman posted:Is there a way to ensure actual ethical purchases of coffee, chocolate etc or is it a lost cause co-op own brand is certainly more ethical than most brands for a variety of reasons, but just not buying nestle until they stop being shits is moving the needle in the right direction
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I;m not thinking bout the ethical ramifications of thos Beans
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:I feel there's a rant here and I want to learn more. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MoKLovtnbGY This guy does an entertaining job of explaining their evil.
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