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Hyrax Attack! posted:Would civil war cannon crews have widespread hearing loss? Im assuming yes, but not sure if they would have fired far fewer rounds with less powerful charges and if that would have mattered. Yes, pretty much anyone frequently firing any kind of gun - even black powder - without earpro is going to suffer hearing loss.
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Hyrax Attack! posted:Would civil war cannon crews have widespread hearing loss? Im assuming yes, but not sure if they would have fired far fewer rounds with less powerful charges and if that would have mattered. I think they would have been far more concerned about putting fire onto an enemy so that the enemy doesn't charge and kill them than hearing loss in later years.
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Platystemon posted:There were Gyrojets. Gyrojets are genuinely one of my favorite weird guns because they are excellent fodder for scifi weapons.
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Comstar posted:The US technically invaded and occupied Iceland to stop any other funny business from happening. Someone should ask Drachinifel his opinion on the chance of German success. Um, no, the UK did actually. The US took over later once the funny business had already happened. feedmegin fucked around with this message at 21:42 on Dec 24, 2020 |
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Dec 24, 2020 21:36
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feedmegin posted:Um, no, the UK did actually. The US took over later once the funny business had already happened. See, that's why I come to this thread. So what happened exactly?
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Comstar posted:See, that's why I come to this thread. So what happened exactly? Denmark fell to the Germans really drat fast, people were afraid that Denmark (who was the colonial overlord of Iceland) would let the Germans station airplanes and uboats there, so the Brits pre-emptively landed soldiers. Basically the same thing the Germans tried in Norway, when they told the Norwegians they were going to send in the Wehrmacht to protect their neutrality from British aggression.
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There’s a reason you wear heavy duty ear protection when you’re plinking 9mm at the firing range. Deafness or hearing loss is pretty much a guaranteed side effect of soldiering up to the present.
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Cyrano4747 posted:Denmark fell to the Germans really drat fast, people were afraid that Denmark (who was the colonial overlord of Iceland) would let the Germans station airplanes and uboats there, so the Brits pre-emptively landed soldiers. To continue, in June 1941 the UK wanted to use their soldiers for something other than garrison duty in Iceland and asked the US to take over. Iceland's Allthing didn't give the official okay to this, but the US sent in an army unit and 6th Marines anyway. By the time the war ended over 300 Icelandic women had married Marines and went to the States.
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What are people's thoughts on the Time Life WWII series? For me it's more nostalgia and I'm sure it's just the popular version of the war in the mid 70s,vut I'm still tempted to get a set.
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PeterCat posted:What are people's thoughts on the Time Life WWII series? For me it's more nostalgia and I'm sure it's just the popular version of the war in the mid 70s,vut I'm still tempted to get a set.
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Dec 24, 2020 23:56
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Cyrano4747 posted:Basically the same thing the Germans tried in Norway, when they told the Norwegians they were going to send in the Wehrmacht to protect their neutrality from British aggression. Didn't the Germans inadvertantly beat out the British plan to do mostly the same thing?
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Cessna posted:To continue, in June 1941 the UK wanted to use their soldiers for something other than garrison duty in Iceland and asked the US to take over. Iceland's Allthing didn't give the official okay to this, but the US sent in an army unit and 6th Marines anyway. By the time the war ended over 300 Icelandic women had married Marines and went to the States. Oh yeah wasn’t that a sensitive issue with a big demographic impact? I remember reading later US troop deployments on Iceland were limited in how much they could leave their base?
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PeterCat posted:What are people's thoughts on the Time Life WWII series? For me it's more nostalgia and I'm sure it's just the popular version of the war in the mid 70s,vut I'm still tempted to get a set. They're pop history but the pictures are real pretty.
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PeterCat posted:What are people's thoughts on the Time Life WWII series? For me it's more nostalgia and I'm sure it's just the popular version of the war in the mid 70s,vut I'm still tempted to get a set. My dad has the full set, but I've never had time to sit down and read all of it. Seemed very dense and informative for what they likely had access to at the time.
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PeterCat posted:What are people's thoughts on the Time Life WWII series? For me it's more nostalgia and I'm sure it's just the popular version of the war in the mid 70s,vut I'm still tempted to get a set. An excellent collection of wartime photography. The other bits are eh.
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Cessna posted:To continue, in June 1941 the UK wanted to use their soldiers for something other than garrison duty in Iceland and asked the US to take over. Iceland's Allthing didn't give the official okay to this, but the US sent in an army unit and 6th Marines anyway. By the time the war ended over 300 Icelandic women had married Marines and went to the States. Wait. Iceland still has an Allthing? That's amazing and cool and good. P.S. Happy Holidays to everyone and hope you enjoy the season! I got a kit to make a wooden pump-action rubber-band shotgun and I'm stoked. In an O Henry-almost twist I got the singe-action revolver version for my sister so we look forward to drinking three beers and having dumb rubber-band gun fights in the snowy woods in a few days. We are both well into adulthood and have post-graduate degrees but are still secretly small children.
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Taerkar posted:Didn't the Germans inadvertantly beat out the British plan to do mostly the same thing? Yeah, and a British force had already left to go start laying mines in Norwegian waters too.
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Yes, it's like a lava lamp.
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Chamale posted:I stood too close to a cannon when I was 12; a 16-pounder firing a quarter charge. I wanted to see it up close so I snuck under the safety rope at the last moment. Now my friends have to tap me on the shoulder before speaking to me.
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Kaiser Schnitzel posted:This is getting into TFR territory, but the ATF basically only considers things that use cartridges to be guns. If the propellant and projectile have to be loaded separately (like a black powder muzzleloader), it's not really considered to be a firearm in the US.
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HEY GUNS posted:Yes: everything I enjoy is not legally a "gun." And yet my college dorm was not friendly to this argument. Was anyone defenestrated in response to this offense?
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HEY GUNS posted:Yes: everything I enjoy is not legally a "gun." And yet my college dorm was not friendly to this argument. HEY GUNS posted:i have engineered my life deliberately and concertedly over a period of eight years to be as 17th century as possible.
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HEY GUNS posted:My left ear will probably always hurt because of some officer in reenacting who placed my batallion wrong I thought this was a post from the GiP Idiots thread until I saw who posted it and the word "reenacting". This is seriously some enlisted.txt experience.
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:I thought this was a post from the GiP Idiots thread until I saw who posted it and the word "reenacting". This is seriously some enlisted.txt experience.
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Xiahou Dun posted:Wait. Iceland still has an Allthing? That's amazing and cool and good. Oldest Parliament in the world iirc
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I had a friend who went to the marines and explained to me that hearing protection was rarely used in any situation, because the thinking was that you would toughen up your ears and get used to the sound of gunshots. I think it would be a better option to be able to serve in the military without permanent damage but apparently this is the sort of thing a pussy rear end bitch thinks.
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Yeah that’s the sort of thinking that has people deliberately exposing their family to a novel respiratory virus.
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*roundshot takes off a mans legs, right next to him in the now open file* 'Look at this pussy rear end bitch complaining about no legs!'
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SeanBeansShako posted:*roundshot takes off a mans legs, right next to him in the now open file* Douglas Bader gets to say this. Nobody else does.
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:Douglas Bader gets to say this. Nobody else does. That man is the guy in tub thumping IMO.
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Pryor on Fire posted:I had a friend who went to the marines and explained to me that hearing protection was rarely used in any situation, because the thinking was that you would toughen up your ears and get used to the sound of gunshots. I think it would be a better option to be able to serve in the military without permanent damage but apparently this is the sort of thing a pussy rear end bitch thinks. if you think about it, deafness is nature's hearing protection
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Pryor on Fire posted:I had a friend who went to the marines and explained to me that hearing protection was rarely used in any situation, because the thinking was that you would toughen up your ears and get used to the sound of gunshots. I think it would be a better option to be able to serve in the military without permanent damage but apparently this is the sort of thing a pussy rear end bitch thinks. It’s more how hearing protection makes it hard to hear people talking and dulls other sounds besides shooting. None of my cannoneers ever wore ear pro because it’s kind of important to hear the commands from the FDC and the chief. No one wants to risk shooting out because they didn’t hear the proper command and everyone wants to get rounds out fast as possible. However, they have in the last year started issuing radio headsets and I have noticed the guys actually wear these: they provide hearing protection and facilitate communication.
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As I understand it, Easy Company's assault on the guns at Brecourt manor is now used as a textbook assault on a fixed position. What was the 'textbook' manner for assault before Brecourt Manor? Mortars and MGs, fix and flank or something else? What I am getting at is what would someone using 'the book' have done if they didn't think like Lt. Winters?
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I think it’s textbook as a case study of small unit leadership and decision making, not “if you encounter a fortified position execute the Brecourt protocol”
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FastestGunAlive posted:I think it’s textbook as a case study of small unit leadership and decision making, not “if you encounter a fortified position execute the Brecourt protocol” Yeah it's just 'this is someone applying the principles of shock, fire and manoeuvre in a way that demonstrates how an aggressive attack can defeat a numerically superior foe'.
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:I thought this was a post from the GiP Idiots thread until I saw who posted it and the word "reenacting". This is seriously some enlisted.txt experience. Did the whole placing of batallions on a field for set battle part not tip you off?
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PittTheElder posted:Yeah, and a British force had already left to go start laying mines in Norwegian waters too. And just a month earlier Allies had their operation underway to occupy a corridor from Narvik to Sweden to Finland, in a friendly manner, to assist Finland against USSR (and, totally coincidentally, halting shipments of Swedish iron to Germany). Something that Russians seem to have known because they suddenly were willing to settle on their wins and sign a truce. I don't know if Germany knew just close it was, but given that British press was talking about it prior, they probably were expecting it.
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Alchenar posted:Yeah it's just 'this is someone applying the principles of shock, fire and manoeuvre in a way that demonstrates how an aggressive attack can defeat a numerically superior foe'. That makes a lot of sense, I guess I have heard the story that it's this textbook thing and assumed it meant it was a new way to do stuff not just an amazing execution of the old.
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Elendil004 posted:That makes a lot of sense, I guess I have heard the story that it's this textbook thing and assumed it meant it was a new way to do stuff not just an amazing execution of the old. One of the best “death by PowerPoint” classes I ever sat through was on decision making and Boyd’s OODA loop, where the instructor used the actual scene and paused it at regular intervals to point out where and how decision making was occurring
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We all had to wear earplug cases attached to our BDU collars, with our battalion DUI shoved into it. Note: everyone I served with has hearing damage. I'm actually alright, I have no idea how. edit - everyone I know got a small check from a variety of lawsuits about hearing pro. I'm still doing ok over here
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HEY GUNS posted:What a handsome piece. But there's something weird on the breech... Yes, they are!        The last shots are the saluting charge and its shell insert. Field gun competition shells are cut down to facilitate faster loading and unloading. Fastest time I've seen was an average time of about 2.4 seconds between shots, sustained over eight rounds. Very little flash from the charges, but a hell of a lot of noise. The danger zone from the muzzle is about 30m; I've been inside that when one went off and it was unpleasant to say the least. I cannot fathom what being in a heavy battery during the Great War would have been like. Fearless fucked around with this message at 08:35 on Dec 26, 2020 |
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