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skaboomizzy posted:Pirates GM said Joe Musgrove and Adam Frazier are on the block too. I get that it's a rebuild and all but good lord this team is gonna lose 100+ games next year and look especially awful doing it They won’t lose 100+ games. Mostly because they won’t even play 50+.
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The NL Central is going to be so loving bad this year
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The Cubs are going to win 110 games and Cubsposting all season will warn us they're bad and we won't listen until they get blown out of the playoffs
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Intruder posted:The Cubs are going to win 110 games and Cubsposting all season will warn us they're bad and we won't listen until they get blown out of the playoffs 
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a bad defensive player who had a good few months hitting with a juiced ball really doesn't have a lot of trade value in other words i find a lot of these takes very odd
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Dec 25, 2020 04:57
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Terminal owner brain
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bewbies posted:a bad defensive player who had a good few months hitting with a juiced ball really doesn't have a lot of trade value *edit* bad post GalacticAcid fucked around with this message at 12:52 on Dec 25, 2020 |
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Dec 25, 2020 08:01
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Bob Nutting should be banned from MLB for throwing games, he's doing much worse things and hurting more fans than Shoeless Joe Jackson. The Bell trade isn't even particularly bad among the many decisions where the Pirates decide to minimize payroll and not bother competing.
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euphronius posted:Terminal owner brain Is terminal fan brain rooting for bad players to mediocre players cause you don’t recognize that they’re bad to mediocre Josh bell is bad to mediocre
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uggy posted:Is terminal fan brain rooting for bad players to mediocre players cause you don’t recognize that they’re bad to mediocre And yet he's still been one of the best Pirates over the past few years, so it's understandable why their fans are pissed.
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isn't fan brain the entire point of this whole thing, i mean it's jed hoyer's job to ADD UP THE WARS and win games, but i am going to root for my beloved mashing fat man even though he is objectively bad at baseball, bring back kyle now you jerks.
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Kevlar v2.0 posted:And yet he's still been one of the best Pirates over the past few years, so it's understandable why their fans are pissed. I don’t think 75% of this thread are pirates fans
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i am biased because in 2019 josh bell hit something like 14 home runs in a single series against the cubs right before the all star break and i am now terrified of him
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R.D. Mangles posted:i am biased because in 2019 josh bell hit something like 14 home runs in a single series against the cubs right before the all star break and i am now terrified of him I've never looked at his Fangraphs page but he's had the "danger, this dude mashes" tag in my head for years now.
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Here's my hot Bell take: People overreacted to 2019 and they overreacted to 2020, too. But he only has one season below 100 wRC+ (2020) and it's not like the Nats really gave up a lot for him so good for them.
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According to BRef, he'll be worth an additional 1.5 WAR as a DH, assuming the rumours are true. Average MLB players don't grow on trees, and he was a fan favourite in Pittsburgh. (There's a 5 run penalty for moving from 1B to DH, but his glove costs 20 runs per season so he comes out ahead)
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Josh Bell will be in his 30s before the Pirates are any good and probably non-tendered cause why extend an okish 1B/DH into his mid 30s so they absolutely should trade him now.
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Chamale posted:According to BRef, he'll be worth an additional 1.5 WAR as a DH, assuming the rumours are true. Average MLB players don't grow on trees, and he was a fan favourite in Pittsburgh. (There's a 5 run penalty for moving from 1B to DH, but his glove costs 20 runs per season so he comes out ahead) Exactly. He'd probably be a really good DH, especially if that's the only part of his game he'd need to focus on. I'd expect something similar with Schwarber too.
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To be fair to the pirates they did replace cutch with Dickerson who they then promptly traded for .... international bonus money
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https://twitter.com/ken_rosenthal/status/1342659780343697410?s=21
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This is more about the relative quality of the Texas rotation but https://twitter.com/Kazuto_Yamazaki/status/1342661244788981761
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Adeiny Hechavarria signed with a Japanese club.
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The thing about josh bell is he’ll have protracted stretches of looking absolutely terrible. He can’t hit changeups at all. He changes up his stance and poo poo at the slightest hint of a setback. I’m hoping for his sake he’ll be more relaxed in WAS and live up to the potential and really mash for a full season
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GalacticAcid posted:The thing about josh bell is he’ll have protracted stretches of looking absolutely terrible. He can’t hit changeups at all. He changes up his stance and poo poo at the slightest hint of a setback. I’m hoping for his sake he’ll be more relaxed in WAS and live up to the potential and really mash for a full season the enticing thing about Josh Bell is that if he gets the right pitch he will launch it a mile https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CyHAqsI7HL0
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KICK BAMA KICK posted:Adeiny Hechavarria signed with a Japanese club. How does the NPB feel about batflips?
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Speaking of MLB players going to a foreign league. Addison Russell's season in the KBO did not go well, he hit for a .653 OPS playing for the Kiwoom Heroes and at the end of the season his contract was not renewed. Good riddance.
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I have to imagine his time in MLB is done barring him going off and becoming Mike Trout levels of good in a foreign league. There are teams that will put up with domestic violence allegations (like the Cubs!  ) but there are far less teams that will put up with character issues that translate to on-field problems. I don't think anybody wants the guy who responded to his being benched for making a billion throwing errors and refusing to hustle by complaining about his playing time on Twitter. In between taking cheap shots at his ex, of course.Really glad the Cubs dragged what was left of the 2016 goodwill they built up through the mud by bending over backwards to give Russell a second chance he didn't deserve and gleefully squandered.
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Sydin posted:In between taking cheap shots at his ex, of course. isn't that what got him in trouble in the first place?
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IcePhoenix posted:isn't that what got him in trouble in the first place? Jesus H. Christ (the H stands for Harper)
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Phil Niekro died. Amazing career, probably should've won the 1967 Cy Young on numbers alone but played for a thoroughly mediocre Atlanta team back when 20+ wins was an absolute requirement. Maybe should've won it in 1974 as well. Pitched 330+ innings 3 years running for Atlanta in his late 30s, was still pretty good in his year 45 season in 1984 for the Yankees, and around league average as late as his year 47 season in 1986 for the Indians. Lost it the next year but got traded back to Atlanta so he could make one last appearance and retire as a Brave. Feels like there should be some sort of twist for a knuckleballer's funeral, like the pallbearers following a random, woozy pattern on their way to the grave. elentar fucked around with this message at 18:47 on Dec 27, 2020 |
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elentar posted:Phil Niekro died. Amazing career, probably should've won the 1967 Cy Young on numbers alone but played for a thoroughly mediocre Atlanta team back when 20+ wins was an absolute requirement. Maybe should've won it in 1974 as well. Pitched 330+ innings 3 years running for Atlanta in his late 30s, was still pretty good in his year 45 season in 1984 for the Yankees, and around league average as late as his year 47 season in 1986 for the Indians. Lost it the next year but got traded back to Atlanta so he could make one last appearance and retire as a Brave. A 21-knuckleball salute.
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I remember in 1992 that Atlanta was having an impossible time hitting Tim Wakefield. Atlanta brought in Niekro, to see if that could help. They couldn't hit Niekro either.
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Phil Niekro pitched to Willie Mays and Willie McCovey in his first game and Jose Canseco and Mark McGwire in his second-to-last game
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Spoeank posted:Phil Niekro pitched to Willie Mays and Willie McCovey in his first game and Jose Canseco and Mark McGwire in his second-to-last game Phil Niekro pitched on the same team at the same time as Tom Glavine and Warren Spahn. Spahn's MLB debut was in 1942. Glavine retired in 2008.
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RC and Moon Pie posted:I remember in 1992 that Atlanta was having an impossible time hitting Tim Wakefield. Wasn’t Niekro the one who helped Wakefield figure out the knuckler tho? I swear I remember reading something about Phil coming in to teach him the knuckleball and Tim really taking to it. I’m just happy I got to see him pitch at old Cleveland Stadium back in ‘87. I remember getting his 1987 Topps card and wondering how this man was still able to play baseball at what seemed like 82 years old.
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https://twitter.com/dennistlin/status/1343410402500042752?s=21 Completely expected
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