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fritz
Jul 26, 2003

i wanna hear some of those mchurch-at-google stories

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fritz
Jul 26, 2003

PrefixKitten 1 day ago | parent | favorite | on: Pornhub just purged all unverified content from th...

I'm saying people do not like it when I interact with women in the real world so in their view it would be a good thing if porn were to prevent me from doing so

mediaphage
Mar 22, 2007

Excuse me, pardon me, sheer perfection coming through

fritz posted:

PrefixKitten 1 day ago | parent | favorite | on: Pornhub just purged all unverified content from th...

I'm saying people do not like it when I interact with women in the real world so in their view it would be a good thing if porn were to prevent me from doing so

lmao that's as bad as the reddit sub talking about how the pornhub thing is the first sign of the coming censorship war and why they do their "jobs" (of hoarding pirated content)

Jose Valasquez
Apr 8, 2005

fritz posted:

i wanna hear some of those mchurch-at-google stories

it's mostly boring stuff like he spent all day writing 2000 word essays to an internal off-topic group and was convinced he should be leading ML at google then after a few months of not doing anything he got fired

but he's been real mad about it for the past 8 years

hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008

fritz posted:

PrefixKitten 1 day ago | parent | favorite | on: Pornhub just purged all unverified content from th...

I'm saying people do not like it when I interact with women in the real world so in their view it would be a good thing if porn were to prevent me from doing so

the real conspiracy is that all those recommendations from that article just help pornhub make more money and have less liability

DaTroof
Nov 16, 2000

CC LIMERICK CONTEST GRAND CHAMPION
There once was a poster named Troof
Who was getting quite long in the toof

fritz posted:

PrefixKitten 1 day ago | parent | favorite | on: Pornhub just purged all unverified content from th...

I'm saying people do not like it when I interact with women in the real world so in their view it would be a good thing if porn were to prevent me from doing so

pornhub still exists and still has porn so if you have a problem with the porn they removed we need to change the premise of the discussion, weirdo

post hole digger
Mar 21, 2011

dads friend steve posted:

I don’t want to read about any of those freaks loving

doesnt sound like they are

post hole digger
Mar 21, 2011

became much more anti-porn in 2020.

alexandriao
Jul 20, 2019


quote:

darig 3 days ago [dead] [–]

It seems you're new here.
Hacker News isn't about exploring the hypothetical ways revenue streams could be adversely affected; it's about presenting hypothetical revenue streams to venture capitalists, and cashing their checks as fast as they can write them.

lol

Less Fat Luke
May 23, 2003

Exciting Lemon
There's a post talking about a space station project that's named.. The Von Braun. You know, after the Nazi rocket scientist famous for slave labour use. there are some completely expected takes though!

quote:

dracozny 2 hours ago [–]

You merely point out a very small subset of where he was from and his employer of the time, yet zero attention to his ideals and life legacy.

Less Fat Luke
May 23, 2003

Exciting Lemon
"employer of the time"

Arcteryx Anarchist
Sep 15, 2007

Fun Shoe
Look it was just a very unfortunate rocket factory slavery

Wait is this Elon musk or von Braun

Also

quote:

When shown a picture of himself standing behind Himmler, von Braun claimed to have worn the SS uniform only that one time,[25] but in 2002 a former SS officer at Peenemünde told the BBC that von Braun had regularly worn the SS uniform to official meetings. He began as an Untersturmführer (Second lieutenant) and was promoted three times by Himmler, the last time in June 1943 to SS-Sturmbannführer (Major). Von Braun later claimed that these were simply technical promotions received each year regularly by mail.[26]

I was just in the SS as a formality

epitaph
Dec 31, 2008

fritz posted:

i wanna hear some of those mchurch-at-google stories

Old HN thread I dug up, not very descriptive: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3702761

Arcteryx Anarchist
Sep 15, 2007

Fun Shoe
hide1713 on Mar 15, 2012 [–]

I think those decisions are totally right. It is very clear that social network is important. It is very clear that google needs really good phone/tablet products that other manufactures can not provide.
Google+ is a new product. Don't make a judgement so early. It is getting better everyday.

Arcteryx Anarchist
Sep 15, 2007

Fun Shoe
tbh while o church does sound like a person that does not play well with others due to an ego issue and doesn’t know when to quit, they do have some valid criticisms from what I’ve seen

granted it’s obvious some of those criticisms are driven by selfish personal reasons

mystes
May 31, 2006

I find it hard to evaluate stuff like that because, first of all, it's hard to know who to believe from the outside in this kind of situation, but also because lots of Googlers seems to feel like it's their job to go on HN whenever Google is mentioned and defend it from any criticism.

Jose Valasquez
Apr 8, 2005

mystes posted:

I find it hard to evaluate stuff like that because, first of all, it's hard to know who to believe from the outside in this kind of situation, but also because lots of Googlers seems to feel like it's their job to go on HN whenever Google is mentioned and defend it from any criticism.
there is some truth to most of his criticisms in that comment

20% time isn't dead, but it does depend a lot on your manager and not many people bother with it
perf is a huge time sink, if anything 1-2 weeks a year is an understatement, it sucks and is the worst part of the day to day job
you can't just write whatever language you want because there is a poo poo ton of tooling that exists for java, c++, python, and go that doesn't exist for something like scala
python isn't deprecated but god I wish it was
the andy rubin thing shows that he was right about HR but I don't think that's what he was talking about


but you can also piece together exactly why he was fired:
he got a bad performance review because he spent all his time posting on off topic discussion threads instead of doing his work so his manager wouldn't let him work on a 20% project and put him on a PIP, he tried to go to HR about it but they didn't do anything

rather than improve he just kept ranting about how he was a visionary until he was fired after only a few months at the company

usually that quick of an exit is reserved for people who say union too loud or call out systemic racism

Maximo Roboto
Feb 4, 2012

the labor aristocrats speak

hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008

Texas is proud of allowing Texas Instruments to make you sign over your soul and have no recourse. I’m honestly not sure if Austin would somehow grow even faster if it had California’s non compete laws

kitten emergency
Jan 13, 2008

get meow this wack-ass crystal prison
presumably the oil and gas industry still has some level of pull in TX so i imagine theyre all pretty loving happy with their enforceable noncompetes

AnimeIsTrash
Jun 30, 2018

Maximo Roboto posted:

the labor aristocrats speak



But what about my rights as 6 figgy shithead? :qq:

DaTroof
Nov 16, 2000

CC LIMERICK CONTEST GRAND CHAMPION
There once was a poster named Troof
Who was getting quite long in the toof
don't be afraid to refuse one of those "all your code are belong to us" agreements. i've never had an employer drop me when i argued against it

Arcteryx Anarchist
Sep 15, 2007

Fun Shoe
I think part of that saga is also that they wanted to be on machine learning projects but google New York campus doesn’t do very much of that? And then they felt deceived by recruiting? And the management answers were a mix of we don’t do much here and also part of starting out is like assignment rotations to get you settled in? And then he didn’t do his work because he thought anything below moving towards running machine learning at google was beneath him? And tried to get around the process by trying to get transferred to Mountain View, which was blocked because he wasn’t doing his work?

tracecomplete
Feb 26, 2017

Arcteryx Anarchist posted:

tbh while o church does sound like a person that does not play well with others due to an ego issue and doesn’t know when to quit, they do have some valid criticisms from what I’ve seen

granted it’s obvious some of those criticisms are driven by selfish personal reasons

I had a cup of coffee with him once, mostly out of curiosity. He's an interesting guy. Some of the stuff he wrote at various points is actually...kinda interesting, if only for explaining some basic management theory in a way that will stick for nerds. It is not subtle and it misses a lot, but it's a better framework than just "work hard with your blinders on forever and someday you'll be the CEO!".

After the whole "queynte" thing I went "nah" and haven't talked to him since, but it looked like he might be trying to get his head screwed on straight. Doesn't look like it's happened.

eschaton
Mar 7, 2007

Don't you just hate when you wind up in a store with people who are in a socioeconomic class that is pretty obviously about two levels lower than your own?

DaTroof posted:

don't be afraid to refuse one of those "all your code are belong to us" agreements. i've never had an employer drop me when i argued against it

I’ve never had one willing to change it

epitaph
Dec 31, 2008

DaTroof posted:

don't be afraid to refuse one of those "all your code are belong to us" agreements. i've never had an employer drop me when i argued against it

probably unenforceable anyway

tracecomplete
Feb 26, 2017

It's enforceable in a lot of jurisdictions.

DaTroof
Nov 16, 2000

CC LIMERICK CONTEST GRAND CHAMPION
There once was a poster named Troof
Who was getting quite long in the toof

eschaton posted:

I’ve never had one willing to change it

i've only refused on two occasions, but both times they said they'd amend the agreement and just never brought it up again

a couple times i've also signed it when it was reasonably limited in scope. it's not like i'm writing asc x12 edi conversion software in my spare time

salisbury shake
Dec 27, 2011
buzzerbetrayed 56 minutes ago

You are clearly very anti-CEO, despite preaching to "be a decent human".

Xik
Mar 10, 2011

Dinosaur Gum

quote:

klipt 54 minutes ago | parent | flag | favorite | on: Average Rent in San Francisco Has Dropped $1k This...

I think SF has already taken the hint that they can outsource their residents to Oakland.

Residents strain the city budget via things like public schools. Businesses put money into the city budget via gross receipts taxes.

SF wants the businesses but is very happy for residents to live elsewhere.

Peak hn to suggest a city is just better off without people in it.

hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008

I don’t think he’s endorsing it. it’s definitely a thing, for example Southern California has city of commerce and city of industry with almost 0 permanent residents for some sort of regulations dodge I don’t understand and “don’t worry nobody will actually live here” is an important part of all the construction going up in Manhattan

tracecomplete
Feb 26, 2017

I can't tell if HN's idiot parade flagged me for saying that "Facebook may not support hate but is apparently okay with it" or for noting that they don't do anything about right-wing hate speech all over the platform, but both are funny.

I kinda wonder if my account still sets off alarm bells. pg slowbanned me once for treating a racist like a dirtbag, though later mods un-did it eventually. Now I either get flagged or get a dozen upvotes and there's not much middle ground.

Achmed Jones
Oct 16, 2004



try not posting on or reading hacker news. it feels good.

just read the hn thread and let others make the sacrifice for you. yes, yes if everyone does this then there won't be any more content for the hn thread, but that's a risk im willing to take

bob dobbs is dead
Oct 8, 2017

I love peeps
Nap Ghost
isnt mononcqc famous in erlangland for the book and the blog posts posted on hn

tracecomplete
Feb 26, 2017

I really should. I don't use it to draw consulting work anymore, which was my main excuse.

I mean I'm not gonna, because I am addicted to the upvote rush and I like tilting techbros and it's a slightly better grade of trash than Reddit, but I should.

bob dobbs is dead
Oct 8, 2017

I love peeps
Nap Ghost
poo poo, he made beaucoup figgies from gettin moderately famous, we should make mononcqc do it

MononcQc
May 29, 2007

I post my blogs on Twitter and used to post some on HN but I mostly avoid that place when possible other than to find content for here. Nowadays it’s randos posting my stuff there.

bob dobbs is dead
Oct 8, 2017

I love peeps
Nap Ghost
drat it you seem to be right

maybe we could do a rota

rjmccall
Sep 7, 2007

no worries friend
Fun Shoe
yeah, the pointer authentication spec/whitepaper got posted to hn and i felt obliged to sign up and answer questions in case there was anything good. obviously there wasn’t, because hn is 60% javascript developers who think they’re brilliant hackers and 40% moribund old farts who think they’re way too cool for hn but do spend an awful lot of time there, but i put the work in just in case

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kitten emergency
Jan 13, 2008

get meow this wack-ass crystal prison
this discussion made me go look at the analytics for my blog to see if i had gotten anything posted onto HN, one thing got posted there a few times with rather few comments but this one made me lol

quote:

permo-w 16 days ago [–]

Without even going into why denigrating something as “white” is harmful and counterproductive, the author seems to be arguing that singing in large groups is an occurrence confined solely to white people.

Do I even have to provide a counterexample? Was any thought put into this article at all?

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