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I liked it. They trimmed a bunch of fat, but the timeline jumps didn't bother me at all. Having Flagg play a role in the initial infection was a good call. I spent a moment thinking of how very unlikely it was that the virus could escape a biosafety level 4 lab, but then I was all like 'eh, a wizard did it' and it was OK. -10 points for no Blue Oyster Cult, but I think we'll hear it sooner or later. Another -5 for the sucky opening title graphic. Stephen King: THE TAN Canuckistan fucked around with this message at 03:54 on Dec 19, 2020 |
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BiggerBoat posted:Like what? Well the story can basically be summarized as “99.9% of humanity dies. Survivors gather in Good City and Bad city and then Bad City blows itself up.” Nothing the main protagonists do affects that outcome. There’s story lines like “Satan Makes a Baby” but then the mother kills the baby so it doesn’t matter except briefly making Satan sad. Or “Epic Road Trip to Bad City” which ends with the protagonists being captured and then blown up with Bad City, something they didn’t cause or affect. Mother Abigail is also a weird character. People have visions of Abigail who then tells them of her visions. She’s basically an extra step you didn’t really need and it’s a lot of words and pages to spend on her in that sense. It’s not to say I disliked it. It’s just a particular writing style – there’s reasons for it and it’s fine. I obsessively read most of Kings books when I was a kid and he was my gateway to other authors. It was fun getting re-acquainted with his style after like 25-30 years.
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Dec 19, 2020 04:03
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The stand is basically an old testament story happening in modern america, the faithful are being tested for their faith in God, the good guys go to Vegas to observe a miracle and die, Stu is a reverse Moses. huge fan of the book, the show didn't impress me so far.
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Dec 19, 2020 14:54
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I like that the show changed up some things; kept it from being too much of a retread, given that I've read the book a million times and saw the mostly faithful miniseries multiple times too. It was a kind of nice surprise to have Stu's time in lockup not all that bad and a changed conclusion, and to explore Harold through a more modern lens. I hope Larry's story is changed a bit as well, especially given the race change. A TON of blink and you'll miss references, like Harold having a Crimson King poster on his wall and such, too. We seriously need Stellan Skaarsgard to play the CK since his sons are Pennywise and Flagg.
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Dec 20, 2020 11:09
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Darko posted:
oh snap. good catch
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Dec 20, 2020 12:15
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Is there a list anywhere of the easter eggs? I noticed a few, like the King Crimson poster, and Harold got a rejection from Cemetery Dance, but I'm sure there are many
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Dec 20, 2020 18:23
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Few things I noticed. in the cornfield dreams: were there creepy laughing children running unseen like in that one story/movie about the corn and the kids? Was the wolf in the clearing in the book? I don't recall one which leads to a follow-up point, the scorpion on Harold's desk. Desperation posted:PART I - HIGHWAY 50: IN THE HOUSE OF THE WOLF, THE HOUSE OF THE SCORPION They do end up in Nevada 
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Dec 22, 2020 23:07
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BaldDwarfOnPCP posted:Few things I noticed. in the cornfield dreams: were there creepy laughing children running unseen like in that one story/movie about the corn and the kids? Children of the Corn, it's been a while since I read the lore but I believe he who walks behind the rows and Flagg are the same.
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Dec 23, 2020 01:17
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Medullah posted:Children of the Corn, it's been a while since I read the lore but I believe he who walks behind the rows and Flagg are the same. nope
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Dec 23, 2020 15:25
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I don't think King started putting Flagg in other books besides the Dark Tower (and Eyes of the Dragon) until the late 90s with Hearts in Atlantis.
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Dec 23, 2020 15:37
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Fair enough, I swore I read that but it might have just been a fan theory.
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Dec 23, 2020 17:42
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I started reading King right around '99 and I was fascinated with this mysterious evil guy that kept showing up across different times/places. It's funny to imagine reading it these days now that every media property is part of a "shared universe."
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Dec 23, 2020 18:12
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I've always been disappointed that The Shop wasn't more closely related to the Dark Tower universe. I could see them being a government-funded research centre owned by the Sombra Corporation.
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Canuckistan posted:I've always been disappointed that The Shop wasn't more closely related to the Dark Tower universe. I could see them being a government-funded research centre owned by the Sombra Corporation. The last mention of the Shop was Tommyknockers, right? He's referenced shadowy government organizations in other stuff since then I think (Arrowhead Project in the Mist, etc) but it seems like a combination of dropping that thread after the poor reception of Tommyknockers and also like most boomers as he got rich his distrust in government got more benign. Ostensibly the Shop is part of the Tower shared universe stuff since it encapsulates all realities but I'd be really surprised to ever see it directly referenced again. Lester Shy posted:I started reading King right around '99 and I was fascinated with this mysterious evil guy that kept showing up across different times/places. It's funny to imagine reading it these days now that every media property is part of a "shared universe." Yeah he was ahead of the curve on that one, although the fact that most of his shared universe ran through 3 towns in Maine probably put a limit on things.
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Dec 23, 2020 23:06
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We probably narrowly missed a version of The Stand where everyone comes to Bangor instead of Boulder. Flagg's gang ends up in Portland.
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Okay it's driving me nuts, the bloated throats of people with Captain Trips is reminding me of a movie, and for some reason I'm thinking of Paul Giamatti, but I can't quite put my finger on it. All I can think of is Pure Luck with Martin Short but that's not it. 
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Kung Fu Hustle?
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Medullah posted:Okay it's driving me nuts, the bloated throats of people with Captain Trips is reminding me of a movie, and for some reason I'm thinking of Paul Giamatti, but I can't quite put my finger on it. Jiminy Glick? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcgsDM8c6V8 I think when Frannie was trying to dress up her dad in his dress uniform and then get him out of bed and into the grave he cut a death fart. It was interesting (good) that they cut out the part where she said she was pregnant and her awful mother (not present) didn't give her the business. She was trying to bring it up to her dads but decided to save it. Nthing that Harold is perfect in ep1. The way he tries to say something nice and his facial cues (or maybe it's me the constant reader) foreshadow things.
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episode 2 was substantially less good. Felt very network TV. And the actor for Lloyd Henreid is pretty terrible.
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Medullah posted:Okay it's driving me nuts, the bloated throats of people with Captain Trips is reminding me of a movie, and for some reason I'm thinking of Paul Giamatti, but I can't quite put my finger on it. Total Recall when they get blown out onto the Martian surface?
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Canuckistan posted:Fat Bastard in Austin Powers? I had thought of him but dismissed it, but thinking about it that might actually be it.
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Dec 26, 2020 15:29
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the throat bug sting scene from the mist
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Dec 26, 2020 16:22
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Its Ryan Reynolds in Just Friends.
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Flaggy posted:Its Ryan Reynolds in Just Friends. THAT'S IT! Thanks, it was driving me nuts.
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Dec 26, 2020 18:00
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Man I am so glad they casted a black man as Larry Underwood. There will never be the line "that brown sound sure do get around" in the new series. (just started episode 2)
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Dec 27, 2020 02:19
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Ma, have you heard me on the radio? Of course I have. You sound white!
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Dec 27, 2020 03:48
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Is there a 2020 version of Baby Can You Dig Your Man?
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Dec 27, 2020 03:50
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it's weird that I am much more fine with excising the Lincoln Tunnel when little details I always loved like MOTHER?!? MOTHERRRRRR!! and the home playe jerkoff guy make it in.
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Dec 27, 2020 07:03
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Maybe it's a conscience choice to only show what the main characters are seeing, versus the all-seeing eye of the book. There's zero exposition about what's happening with the plague. I can't say whether I like that or not to be honest. It does make for a more 'personal' story.
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I thought that would be very confusing for people who hadn't read the book, but that seems to be not the case. My boyfriend hasn't read The Stand or seen the other mini-series and has had no trouble at all keeping up with what was going on. I've read the book and the jumps are a little jarring for me but it's nothing too bad. We are both digging the series though. It's been easily 6-7 years since I've read the book, but it seems to be close enough to what I remember and I haven't had any issues with any of the case yet aside from Whoopie seeming to be phoning it in hard. But that could be just because she's had a whole four lines of dialogue so far so I'll reserve my judgement for now. My boyfriend is so into the series he was asking me how many seasons I thought it was going to take, and when I said it was a mini-series he made me look up the episode titles to see if it would tell the whole story. It's adorable, he normally doesn't care that much about Stephen King adaptions, but he is all over this one. I'm debating on if I should get the audiobook version so he can listen to it while walking to work.
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There’s nothing about the series so far that makes it difficult to make sense of. I haven’t read the book in 15+ years and I’m liking the show so far.
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RCarr posted:There’s nothing about the series so far that makes it difficult to make sense of. I haven’t read the book in 15+ years and I’m liking the show so far. The time jumps are not confusing so much as annoying. (I listened to the audiobook this lovely covid spring so maybe I'm biased)
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Wake me when the mad lads do an entire episode on "No Great Loss".
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FreezingInferno posted:Wake me when the mad lads do an entire episode on "No Great Loss". That was a fun chapter but also pretty misogynistic. I get the appeal but drat I almost liked the middle or even the stupid ending more. Still needs more cowbells, imho.
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I'm like, half and half on the new miniseries so far. The contemporary updates to the characters range from 'okay that's a pretty good take' to 'wut.' The casting isn't at all how I pictured anyone in my head, but the cast mostly works for the modern approach the story, and some of them, like Tom, are actually really good. On the other hand, there are some nonsensical changes or little additions that don't do much, and I think it was a mistake to make the story non-chronological. There are some really great interpretations on individual scenes. But also some bad ones.
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I dont have CBS all access as a service ive paid for yet so I'm gonna wait for it all to finish and then try and binge cuz I sure don't need another streaming app. Interesting to see it jumps around. I think it is a story that'll lend itself to non-linear story telling just fine. Hope that pans out
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Casting wise the only choice I don’t like is Whoopi Goldberg. She’s good in it but it’s just one of those things where it feels like they didn’t even think about it and were just like “gently caress it, we’ll just go with her”.
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Ugly In The Morning posted:Casting wise the only choice I don’t like is Whoopi Goldberg. She’s good in it but it’s just one of those things where it feels like they didn’t even think about it and were just like “gently caress it, we’ll just go with her”. Yeah it's like, if I were a casting director I couldn't think of anyone better. Good thing that's not my job title. Go with what works (and who works)
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She's actually starting to grow on me with the most recent episode. She's still not my ideal choice, but she's not as bland as she seemed in the other two episodes. And she's got like two more episodes to live max so it's not like it's a big issue.
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