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Even if you did have an example you’d probably have many more examples of people working hard and getting gently caress all for it. I don’t “like” Prez getting a redemption arc but it’s institutionally pretty realistic. White cop blinds a black kid, shoots a black cop, gets to retire clean because he feels bad about it, goes into teaching to become a better person. No consequences except to his own feelings.
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There's certainly a sadness in Prez that I think must've been intentional. Like, he's not being played as a totally happy, content guy who has put his past behind him. I always got the feeling that he was constantly aware of his past and the damage he'd done. And that's what Prez represents. A guy who maybe deep down wasn't one of those hateful psychos frothing at the mouth to hurt people, but he allowed himself to become that when he immersed himself on the toxic police culture. Who you think you are deep down isn't as important as what you do, and the impact of your actions, and Prez allowed his circumstances and the institutional powers surrounding him to change him into something he didn't want to be. And some things you can't take back.
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There is a pretty haunting passage in The Corner where DeAndre, a highschool kid, is trying to go straight and he almost applies at a McDonalds but bails. There is definitely the element of how little you get for the hard work and bullshit compared to drug dealing, but there is also the humiliation and powerlessness of the job, the lack of money affecting social status, and the chance of being judged by a loving McDonalds manager and being found not good enough.
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Sewer-Cover posted:There is a pretty haunting passage in The Corner where DeAndre, a highschool kid, is trying to go straight and he almost applies at a McDonalds but bails. There is definitely the element of how little you get for the hard work and bullshit compared to drug dealing, but there is also the humiliation and powerlessness of the job, the lack of money affecting social status, and the chance of being judged by a loving McDonalds manager and being found not good enough. "Yeah, but he still had a CHOICE" - Some other poster
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Sewer-Cover posted:There is a pretty haunting passage in The Corner where DeAndre, a highschool kid, is trying to go straight and he almost applies at a McDonalds but bails. There is definitely the element of how little you get for the hard work and bullshit compared to drug dealing, but there is also the humiliation and powerlessness of the job, the lack of money affecting social status, and the chance of being judged by a loving McDonalds manager and being found not good enough. Or consider the McDonalds manager being judged by a random internet poster. I suspect both employees would rather be in a better position. Hey, someone has to supply the mcribs, you know.
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One of the other bankers I work with has a client that started working at McDonald's when he was like 16, worked at that same location his whole career, and retired a multi-multimillionaire. Didn't do anything crazy or weird either. Just saved and lived within his means. Bartenders and servers at high end restaurants can and do make six figure salaries pretty regularly. There's bankers at my job that make like $40k a year including their bonuses. Job titles mean jackshit.
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Solice Kirsk posted:One of the other bankers I work with has a client that started working at McDonald's when he was like 16, worked at that same location his whole career, and retired a multi-multimillionaire. Didn't do anything crazy or weird either. Just saved and lived within his means. Bartenders and servers at high end restaurants can and do make six figure salaries pretty regularly. Hedge fund managers or mcdonalds workers, its all about how hard you work really innit Strawman fucked around with this message at 20:37 on Dec 22, 2020 |
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Dec 22, 2020 19:48
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Good post/username combo Also that McDonalds millionaire story sounds very last millennium.
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General Battuta posted:Good post/username combo $40,000 a year from 16 to 65 wouldn't be enough to make someone a multi-millionaire if their expenses were $0. How much do you think McDonald's managers get paid?
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I'm agreeing with you.
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I feel like there's a missing step. Like, was it his dad's McDonald's franchise he started working at and then inherited or something?
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Nope, just lived to his means and put his savings in mutual funds for decades. He's not my client so I don't have a lot of info besides that. I do have a Bitcoin millionaire though! He's a really cool guy.
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I mean, it's mathematically possible. Working for 50 years, investing over the period from 1960-2010, house appreciation. The issue comes in if someone says that's a path to be emulated. It's possible, I'm not disbelieving there is a person who has done that, but it's just not useful career advice. Also, lol at the idea of banker == McDonald's manager in general esteem, just because in some situations they pay the same. You know that's not what people mean when they say that, right? I'm not saying a banker is better than a McDonald's manager, but plenty of people out there believe that, consciously or not. Grumpwagon fucked around with this message at 21:37 on Dec 22, 2020 |
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what were his means exactly
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Ainsley McTree posted:what were his means exactly lived in a mountain commuted via cave
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Working and saving Was all he'd crave.
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There's nothing wrong with being a service industry worker, is my point.
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Morally nothing wrong, but I don't think you could replicate that guy's McDonalds Method of becoming a multi-millionaire today. Like you can't go get a McDonalds job and save and get promoted and live modestly and achieve the American Dream any more. The way is shut.
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Solice Kirsk posted:Nope, just lived to his means and put his savings in mutual funds for decades. He's not my client so I don't have a lot of info besides that. I do have a Bitcoin millionaire though! He's a really cool guy. yeah we all know jeffery
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Solice Kirsk posted:Nope, just lived to his means and put his savings in mutual funds for decades. He's not my client so I don't have a lot of info besides that. I do have a Bitcoin millionaire though! He's a really cool guy.
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you want it to be one way but its another
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You know what the problem is? We used to grill patties in this country, make hamburgers. Now we're just taking a large fry from the next guy's bag.
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They used to make McFlurries there, no?
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Beamed posted:You know what the problem is? We used to grill patties in this country, make hamburgers. Now we're just taking a large fry from the next guy's bag.
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For some reason I thought this was the Pickle Rick dialogue
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I’m Pickle McNulty!
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until someday some way those motherfuckers get dredged and we get some CHIPPPPSINHEEEERRRRE
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To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to work in the Baltimore major crimes unit (I wanted to phrase this with the words mcnulty uses when he tries to impress Carcetti's election consultant on a dinner date, but I couldn't find the quote from that scene before I got lazy)
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kenard lived though 
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kenard hard like a rock
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The irony being that Bodymore Murderland is solidly blue. 
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I'm not here to read any posts as we're only in S2 and I don't wanna be spoiled But What do you get when you cross Jack Nicholson with Burt Young? Frank Sobotka
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Just started watching this show for the first time. It's excellent so far, and I'm only on the second episode. How have I missed this for so long?
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Kazinsal posted:Just started watching this show for the first time. It's excellent so far, and I'm only on the second episode. How have I missed this for so long? This has to be a treat. Watching it while it aired was one thing, but twenty years on has to be a whole different experience. Like watching the Mary Tyler Moore show in 1990.
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Solice Kirsk posted:One of the other bankers I work with has a client that started working at McDonald's when he was like 16, worked at that same location his whole career, and retired a multi-multimillionaire. Didn't do anything crazy or weird either. Just saved and lived within his means. Bartenders and servers at high end restaurants can and do make six figure salaries pretty regularly. lol the only way this is true, ie. worked at the same location entire career and retired multi-millionaire, is if this person became the franchise owner-operator of that location, and then probably a couple of other locations as well, thus technically "working at the same location his whole career".
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Just finished the series watching on Hulu over the last month or so. I had watched S1 and enjoyed it many years ago but just didn't continue it. I have some minor nitpicks with the show but overall found it pretty solid. There's an interesting combination of established actors who you've probably seen in other TV series or films, and actors who either come from outside TV/film or just haven't done any mass-media at all. Not all the plots have satisfying endings, but considering a large chunk of this series is based on real life, sometimes that's how real life is.
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Frank Sobotka was 36.
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Solice Kirsk posted:One of the other bankers I work with has a client that started working at McDonald's when he was like 16, worked at that same location his whole career, and retired a multi-multimillionaire. Didn't do anything crazy or weird either. Just saved and lived within his means. Bartenders and servers at high end restaurants can and do make six figure salaries pretty regularly. lmao e: wait we already tackled this bit. this is a months old lovely take!!!
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