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ded
Oct 27, 2005

Kooler than Jesus

CaptainSarcastic posted:

Yeah, or set the objective as "Follow Yammering Douchebag" and if you get too far ahead of them they stop and wait for you to go back to them so they can start plodding along and yammering again. Why can't they just match speed to however fast you're going? Some of them actually seem to move at less than your characters normal walking speed.

This happens in so many games and is so widely screamed about as being horrible, yet devs keep jamming it in to say gently caress YOU NERD

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Devorum
Jul 30, 2005

ded posted:

This happens in so many games and is so widely screamed about as being horrible, yet devs keep jamming it in to say gently caress YOU NERD

I'm currently getting horrible flashbacks to escorting Natalya in GoldenEye.

Why are these things still in games? They've literally never been fun.

CaptainSarcastic
Jul 6, 2013



There's that one side mission on Nekrotefayo or however it's spelled where you are basically beta-testing an AR game where you have to do an escort mission and it's really bad, so at least some of the devs on BL3 seemed to have insight onto what bullshit it is.

But then there's a shitload of the same idiocy elsewhere in the game. Unless that mission was a subtle dig at the overall game being badly written?

Devorum
Jul 30, 2005

CaptainSarcastic posted:

There's that one side mission on Nekrotefayo or however it's spelled where you are basically beta-testing an AR game where you have to do an escort mission and it's really bad, so at least some of the devs on BL3 seemed to have insight onto what bullshit it is.

But then there's a shitload of the same idiocy elsewhere in the game. Unless that mission was a subtle dig at the overall game being badly written?

Yeah, the criticism of the cliche in that quest struck me as very strange considering how often you're doing exactly what the quest is criticising across the series.

unicr0n
Sep 8, 2003

Devorum posted:

I'm currently getting horrible flashbacks to escorting Natalya in GoldenEye.

Why are these things still in games? They've literally never been fun.

Witcher 3 got it right, you start sprinting behind an escort they start too.

Relyssa
Jul 29, 2012



nominal posted:

I would just love these games so much more if they had a random level generator with a bonus at the end or some other meaningful means of progressing besides the main campaign.

If they could just steal the rift system from Diablo 3 and shove it into this game it would be perfect. Give us adventure mode too while you're at it.

Rinkles
Oct 24, 2010

What I'm getting at is...
Do you feel the same way?
That's what I was hoping designer's cut would be :[

RosaParksOfDip
May 11, 2009

CaptainSarcastic posted:

Yeah, or set the objective as "Follow Yammering Douchebag" and if you get too far ahead of them they stop and wait for you to go back to them so they can start plodding along and yammering again. Why can't they just match speed to however fast you're going? Some of them actually seem to move at less than your characters normal walking speed.

The worst is faster than walk, slower than run. You gotta keep doing little sprints to keep on them, especially if they're someone who can get attacked and die along the way.

Listerine
Jan 5, 2005

Exquisite Corpse
The absolute worst for me is that one mission on the jungle planet where you have to escort the crap robot to the monkey village and help it earn some self-worth; the AI puts that thing a few feet in front of you the whole time, getting between you and enemies you're trying to shoot. Absolutely infuriating.

I thought they might have finally figured it out when they let Burton in the Lovecraft DLC take his secret shortcuts to meet you places instead of running along with you.

LIVE AMMO COSPLAY
Feb 3, 2006

The worst trend is having to wait for somebody to hand you the quest item instead of being able to just head to the next destination while they chatter.

This was literally a solved problem in the original game!

The Shame Boy
Jan 27, 2014

Dead weight, just like this post.



CaptainSarcastic posted:

There's that one side mission on Nekrotefayo or however it's spelled where you are basically beta-testing an AR game where you have to do an escort mission and it's really bad, so at least some of the devs on BL3 seemed to have insight onto what bullshit it is.

But then there's a shitload of the same idiocy elsewhere in the game. Unless that mission was a subtle dig at the overall game being badly written?

Yes i was that guy that picked up ALL 100 orbs instead of paying to skip it. The questgiver sounds so sad and disappointed that you REALLY didn't want to pay.

Sephyr
Aug 28, 2012
I also keep getting Axton and Salvador message me for a quest whenever I return to the Sanctuary, but nothing appears on the map. Is it some DLC I don't have?

CaptainSarcastic
Jul 6, 2013



Sephyr posted:

I also keep getting Axton and Salvador message me for a quest whenever I return to the Sanctuary, but nothing appears on the map. Is it some DLC I don't have?

That's them pushing the Season Pass 2. It shows up as a fake mission in Sanctuary, if memory serves.

Sephyr
Aug 28, 2012
Ahh. Thank you!

Also, how do I open up Slaughterstar 3000 again in my TVHM? I think i got it from a stone pilar at Promethea the first time, but I went back there and it's not active.

Relyssa
Jul 29, 2012



Sephyr posted:

Ahh. Thank you!

Also, how do I open up Slaughterstar 3000 again in my TVHM? I think i got it from a stone pilar at Promethea the first time, but I went back there and it's not active.

Slaughterstar 3000's pillar is in Nekrotafeyo. Promethea has one of the proving grounds, I think.

A Moose
Oct 22, 2009



I remember the first time I heard Tyreen go "and then I'll be a god!!!" and Troy was like "you mean WE'LL be gods, right?" I was like, oh good, he's going to turn on her after she betrays him. Having her kill him would have been way better.

Sephyr
Aug 28, 2012
Does anyone on PC have issues with the minigame Boosters disappearing? I bought a loot booster on the ship, went to Pandora, and it was gone.

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012
I dunno, there is something kind of interesting in Tyreen sticking to a 'family is important' moral code despite lacking the empathy or moral framework to understand why it's important. Like, she clearly finds her brother a burden and an irritation, but she gives him a good life alongside her anyway because they're family, and that's what you're supposed to do for family. She seems genuinely surprised and upset when he tries to eat her, and genuinely respectful when she absorbs his corpse. It's a fun little wrinkle in her characterisation, especially compared to Handsome Jack (who was only too capable of turning familial love into a justification for horrific abuse).

CaptainSarcastic
Jul 6, 2013



Darth Walrus posted:

I dunno, there is something kind of interesting in Tyreen sticking to a 'family is important' moral code despite lacking the empathy or moral framework to understand why it's important. Like, she clearly finds her brother a burden and an irritation, but she gives him a good life alongside her anyway because they're family, and that's what you're supposed to do for family. She seems genuinely surprised and upset when he tries to eat her, and genuinely respectful when she absorbs his corpse. It's a fun little wrinkle in her characterisation, especially compared to Handsome Jack (who was only too capable of turning familial love into a justification for horrific abuse).

I'd say it's just more shallow, arbitrary plotting for an underdeveloped and paper-thin character. She could have done the exact opposite and it would have fit with the lack of an actual character just as well.

Jack actually has backstory, character development, and an arc to his character. The twins do not.

Khizan
Jul 30, 2013


Jack gets more development in BL3 than Tyreen and Troy, through that sidequest about Angel.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

ded posted:

This happens in so many games and is so widely screamed about as being horrible, yet devs keep jamming it in to say gently caress YOU NERD

Shadows of Mordor had you auto-move along with them at least at the start iirc.

I think there's just a lot of things that developers put in games out of sheer habit or because they were in one game that sold well so obviously they need to be in everything.

DoubleDonut
Oct 22, 2010


Fallen Rib
Anyone suddenly having connection problems on PC? I can't connect to any of my friends and they can't connect to me, but only if I'm using a specific character (which, unfortunately, is the only character I have at a decent level). Things were working fine as recently as last night.

hamsystem
Nov 11, 2010

Fuzzy pickles!
FYI they finally fixed the ps4 to ps5 save issue and you can move over all your characters now.

Dewgy
Nov 10, 2005

~🚚special delivery~📦

hamsystem posted:

FYI they finally fixed the ps4 to ps5 save issue and you can move over all your characters now.

:toot:

Now to download the PS4 version, upload my save, delete the PS4 one, and download the game again!

It’s Just That Easy™!

hamsystem
Nov 11, 2010

Fuzzy pickles!
It's awesome how the ps4 version is like a full 20-30 gigs bigger too!

Dewgy
Nov 10, 2005

~🚚special delivery~📦
Hooray, not only did it not work, now I have no characters available on the PS5 version, not even the one I had before. There should be a :dice: emote for Gearbox at this point.

e: Cool, after trashing my PS5 local save, it worked again! You have to do it one character at a time though. :negative:

Oh well, it’s dealt with, it works, and hopefully I’ll never have to do that again.

Dewgy fucked around with this message at 22:21 on Nov 25, 2020

DarkAvenger211
Jun 29, 2011

Damnit Steve, you know I'm a sucker for Back to the Future references.
I'm trying to find some info on if Borderlands 3 is cross-platform between PC and consoles. Most of what I can find only seems to mention between Steam and Epic, and between PS5 and Xbox or something. Does anyone know if I can play with a friend on their console while I'm on my PC?

Less Fat Luke
May 23, 2003

Exciting Lemon

DarkAvenger211 posted:

I'm trying to find some info on if Borderlands 3 is cross-platform between PC and consoles. Most of what I can find only seems to mention between Steam and Epic, and between PS5 and Xbox or something. Does anyone know if I can play with a friend on their console while I'm on my PC?

Crossplay was announced for 2021

DarkDobe
Jul 11, 2008

Things are looking up...

Random rear end in a top hat posted:

Do you - or anyone else - have a recommendation on which one to use? I normally use Cheat Engine, but the table I used to use broke around LG&T and I'm too paranoid about malware to just try random poo poo I find off Google.

When I last played I used this one:
https://flingtrainer.com/trainer/borderlands-3-trainer/
Works exactly as advertised. The faster speed mode is a godsend if you are replaying story since it speeds up -everything-.

alpha_destroy
Mar 23, 2010

Billy Butler: Fat Guy by Day, Doubles Machine by Night
Anyone playing this on PS5 yet? The discord doesn't seem to me to be getting any real traffic or anything and I'd like some vault hunting buds, you know?

Father Wendigo
Sep 28, 2005
This is, sadly, more important to me than bettering myself.

alpha_destroy posted:

Anyone playing this on PS5 yet? The discord doesn't seem to me to be getting any real traffic or anything and I'd like some vault hunting buds, you know?
Is there crossplay between the PS4 and PS5?

humpthewind
Jan 8, 2007

Noblest of all dogs is the hot-dog; it feeds the hand that bites it.

alpha_destroy posted:

Anyone playing this on PS5 yet? The discord doesn't seem to me to be getting any real traffic or anything and I'd like some vault hunting buds, you know?

I've got one dlc left to play but the ps5 version doesn't share trophies with the ps4 version so I can't make myself play the ps5 version. I really hate whoever made that decision. My brain can't handle the trophies being in two separate buckets.

Katt
Nov 14, 2017

I haven't played this in a while. But loving lol at the company that released Colonial Marines asking for $30 upfront for a promise of content to be delivered later.


One season pass should have covered everything forever.

Father Wendigo
Sep 28, 2005
This is, sadly, more important to me than bettering myself.

2k Games accidentally had the content of the second half of Season Pass 2 up on one of their websites. I was trying to be optimistic, but prepared for disappointment. I wasn't expecting to feel insulted as a consumer, though.

quote:

The Director’s Cut will bring:

*Ava’s Murder Mystery Missions (Series of Four (4), one/planet)

*(Behind-the-Scenes): “Lost” Cinematic Previews, Cut Story Moments, Manufacturer Videos, Concept Art, Lost Map Vignettes, and much more!

*Vault Symbol Challenges w/ Exclusive Gear Set Rewards

I will admit, one thing I was not expecting was an expansion of nothing but having to replay the vanilla campaign with more Ava, more cutscenes, and more standing around doing nothing while people talk.

I don't know how they're justifying Season Pass #2's $30 USD price tag beyond Randy grabbing your wallet and running.

e: Oops, I forgot to add the source

Father Wendigo fucked around with this message at 01:44 on Dec 28, 2020

Rinkles
Oct 24, 2010

What I'm getting at is...
Do you feel the same way?
:smithcloud:

CaptainSarcastic
Jul 6, 2013



Father Wendigo posted:

2k Games accidentally had the content of the second half of Season Pass 2 up on one of their websites. I was trying to be optimistic, but prepared for disappointment. I wasn't expecting to feel insulted as a consumer, though.


I will admit, one thing I was not expecting was an expansion of nothing but having to replay the vanilla campaign with more Ava, more cutscenes, and more standing around doing nothing while people talk.

I don't know how they're justifying Season Pass #2's $30 USD price tag beyond Randy grabbing your wallet and running.

e: Oops, I forgot to add the source

Okay, I had been thinking if the price dropped 50% I might consider the second season pass, but now we're down to maybe $5 in terms of what I would be willing to pay.

Hopefully it's just a joke, or will be played off as one.

Mr Scumbag
Jun 6, 2007

You're a fucking cocksucker, Jonathan
Cut Story Moments, Manufacturer Videos, Concept Art, Lost Map Vignettes, and much more!

Hahahahahaha. You pay them so they can show you all the poo poo they cut out of the game and that you never got to play/see.

This is loving hilarious and so on-point for Gearbox.

I don't want to be too much of a dick, but you should have been expecting this.

he1ixx
Aug 23, 2007

still bad at video games

Mr Scumbag posted:

Jesus Christ, you people are weird.

I am playing through this now and I must be a total mark because a) I like Ava and the bits of story they scatter around. b) I don't mind paying for a season pass because it adds more content. I have been having a total blast with this game over the last week and I think Ava was pretty ok. Tina still annoys the bejesus out of me but that was to be expected. The jokes and references they scattered around actually made me laugh in a few parts as opposed to BL2 which made me wince often.

From Steam reviews to a few posts on here, I see a lot of very strident opinions saying things like "Season Pass 2 is overpriced and a money grab. gently caress these devs!". I am fine with folks saying "I don't want to pay $30 for something. it's not worth it TO ME" but saying it shouldn't exist or be $5 or free seems strange to me when there is no way of knowing how much it costs to do the work and, ultimately, what 2k thinks people will pay. I guess this is the internet though so I shouldn't be super surprised that everyone wants things free. I do often find myself curious what a Season Pass that passed the muster of the "this isn't worth it" crowd would look like.

16-bit RDRAM
May 31, 2020

by angerbeet

he1ixx posted:

I am playing through this now and I must be a total mark because a) I like Ava and the bits of story they scatter around. b) I don't mind paying for a season pass because it adds more content. I have been having a total blast with this game over the last week and I think Ava was pretty ok. Tina still annoys the bejesus out of me but that was to be expected. The jokes and references they scattered around actually made me laugh in a few parts as opposed to BL2 which made me wince often.

From Steam reviews to a few posts on here, I see a lot of very strident opinions saying things like "Season Pass 2 is overpriced and a money grab. gently caress these devs!". I am fine with folks saying "I don't want to pay $30 for something. it's not worth it TO ME" but saying it shouldn't exist or be $5 or free seems strange to me when there is no way of knowing how much it costs to do the work and, ultimately, what 2k thinks people will pay. I guess this is the internet though so I shouldn't be super surprised that everyone wants things free. I do often find myself curious what a Season Pass that passed the muster of the "this isn't worth it" crowd would look like.

The first season pass

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bamhand
Apr 15, 2010
I mean the season 2 pass is offensively bad for how little it offers and the price. And I thought the season 1 pass was a great deal.

The design decisions like adding a new mode where all the characters have no skills is real dumb.

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