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Lamebot posted:They left Paradis without devastating the landscape so there's that. How they did it is a head scratcher. They must have left the island in single file formation We in fact see them converging on Eren single file, following the former outline of the walls.
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Lamebot posted:They left Paradis without devastating the landscape so there's that. How they did it is a head scratcher. They must have left the island in single file formation https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dgvk_511dGw&hd=1
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I'd love an effortpost of what the rumbling would mean for the enviroment on this world. All that heat from millions of colossal titans and the dust they're kicking into the atmosphere would probably gently caress climate real good.
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Are there millions? I thought it would be a thousand at most. EDIT: The wiki claims it's tens of millions.... that makes no sense wtf.
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No Wave posted:Are there millions? I thought it would be a thousand at most. Them walls were big
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wow... the rumbling has reduced industrial pollution and littering... nature is healing, maybe we were the titans
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Frionnel posted:I'd love an effortpost of what the rumbling would mean for the enviroment on this world. All that heat from millions of colossal titans and the dust they're kicking into the atmosphere would probably gently caress climate real good. They'd locally destroy ecosystems, with repercussions to migrating species and some rainfall pattern impacts as a result of changing forests into grasslands, but that's about it as far as effects that'd last beyond a couple seasons.
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No Wave posted:Are there millions? I thought it would be a thousand at most. The "tens of millions" thing is actually something that King Fritz says. Just based on what we know about the dimensions of the Wall Titans and the approximate size of Eldia, it's unlikely that there are any more than 600,000 Wall Titans. Which is still an enormous number, of course, but, like, yeah. If we assume all of the Wall Titans are about 13meters wide based on their approximate height, a straight line of 600,000 of them, standing even just a little bit further apart than shoulder to shoulder, would make a line about one fifth as long as the Earth. Bleck fucked around with this message at 18:17 on Dec 31, 2020 |
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Dec 31, 2020 18:14
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Huh, just realized a connection between the Rumbling and the timing of Historia's labor, Ragnarok and the painful rebirth of the world.
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Man what portion of people had to be titanized to make that wall? Assuming same historical progression rate that would place Eldia in early 1700's population. What were the general population sizes of countries back then? I know I'm going way too in depth, but I am now curious. I'm going to use the British empire as my example population, since they would be as spread out as much as the Eldian Empire supposedly was (allowing for Eldians to exist as minorities in many regions and countries) In 1700 there were 9,131,239 British throughout the empire, 5.1 million in England alone. Considering the Eldian king just hosed off and brought the majority of his people to the island, let's say half of the British population was able to evacuate. That's 2.55 million, so that is near a quarter of the population turned into the wall. Good thing the king could mind wipe, using a quarter of your people as building material is definitely revolution worthy. Donkringel fucked around with this message at 19:48 on Dec 31, 2020 |
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Dec 31, 2020 19:40
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Considering eren can just pull old titans out of the ether I bet its some PATHS bullshit
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Bleck posted:The "tens of millions" thing is actually something that King Fritz says. Just based on what we know about the dimensions of the Wall Titans and the approximate size of Eldia, it's unlikely that there are any more than 600,000 Wall Titans. So when the titans are around halfway around the planet how far apart would they be? Could they have spread far enough apart? Also seems like a good survival strategy would be to fly over the titans to the already trampled side. Although I guess my assumption is that they eventually converge at the opposite side of the globe and just stop instead of constantly circling the world
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Good luck surviving on the trampled land when all the idiot cows and other animals are dead. You could survive on birds and fish maybe
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hatty posted:Good luck surviving on the trampled land when all the idiot cows and other animals are dead. You could survive on birds and fish maybe I think they would boil up the rivers and lakes. Fish ain't having a good time.
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Then you might have a couple of weeks before all the birds die from not having anything to eat
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Clearly you just have someone turn into a Titan and then eat their regenerating flesh, gosh it's so simple.
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have ymir change the eldians’ bodies to survive off photosynthesis
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Flattening all the worlds forests would not only basically kill everyone on Paradis through lack of Oxygen, the release of all that carbon into the atmosphere would make real world global warming look like a joke. Eren could commit his genocide in a more economically friendly manner however. Human populations even when not urbanized tend to be packed in certain areas. Eren doesn't have to Rumble the world in a perfect expanding circle to kill everyone. Most of the world is ocean which he can skip. He could basically have Titans make landfall at major ports/urban centers and then have make their way down the river valleys, breaking off groups to pursue fleeing refugees like those poor people at the cliff. He can kill like 99% of the world while sparing the environment.
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galagazombie posted:Flattening all the worlds forests would not only basically kill everyone on Paradis through lack of Oxygen, the release of all that carbon into the atmosphere would make real world global warming look like a joke. The bulk of the planet's oxygen is produced in the ocean, and even if all photosynthesis stopped tomorrow, oxygen depletion wouldn't be an issue for a few thousand years (even more so with the bulk of terrestrial life similarly extinguished). Furthermore, while atmospheric carbon dioxide would certainly spike in the short term, a lack of continuous excess production combined with an immediate reabsorption as fast-growing plants colonize cleared areas means this spike would only last a few decades.
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Conspiratiorist posted:The bulk of the planet's oxygen is produced in the ocean, and even if all photosynthesis stopped tomorrow, oxygen depletion wouldn't be an issue for a few thousand years (even more so with the bulk of terrestrial life similarly extinguished). Wouldnt erosion and desertification take in effect in the newly clear cut areas?
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Depends a great deal on the local conditions, but what you'd expect to see in regions that are already fertile is an immediate transition to grasslands, while biomes that experience regular burns would likely recover.
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The Colossal Titans are also compacting the soil as they go.
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The colossal titans will be composted to kickstart the new world.
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As a lurker, this IMO is exactly the kind of useful discussion that justifies the forums. Titan-apocalypse ecological impact debate is more informative and thought provoking than most of what I read in the actual news.
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Beefstew posted:What do you guys think the best fight in the series was? I think the best drama comes in the Marley and War for Paradis arcs, but I think the Battle of Shiganshina still might be the best battle overall. But if we're talking titan on titan, it's gonna have to be the battle we're about to watch in the anime. I'm so freakin' excited for Eren to crack a cold one. Donkringel posted:Man what portion of people had to be titanized to make that wall? Not to mention all the other things that make them peculiar, like their ability to be awake without sunlight, their ability to exist in their form w/o running out of energy, their feet designed specifically to trample in a pattern, their lack of hunger... On the other hand, if they transformed back into humans once the rumbling was over, that would more or less be a "repopulation" of the world. Dumb twist: The wall titans were always shells meant to be re-animated with the spirits of all Eldians who died in the rumbling, thus recreating the world as all Eldians and thus no more conflict or some dumb poo poo like that. DaveKap fucked around with this message at 00:20 on Jan 3, 2021 |
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Now that we are talking of the Wall Titans... maybe this is injecting too much realism in a fiction series, but how are they supposed to destroy the world? If they formed a circle that is expanding outward, the farther away from the starting circle (the wall), the less dense the circle they are forming will be. They started shoulder to shoulder, but after walking a few kilometers, increasing the circle radius, there will be decent gaps between them. By the time they reach other countries, it will be a disaster only if they have bad luck and one of them happen to walk into a city, but it won't be a human extinction level as they are saying.
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Turin Turambar posted:Now that we are talking of the Wall Titans... maybe this is injecting too much realism in a fiction series, but how are they supposed to destroy the world? If they formed a circle that is expanding outward, the farther away from the starting circle (the wall), the less dense the circle they are forming will be. They started shoulder to shoulder, but after walking a few kilometers, increasing the circle radius, there will be decent gaps between them. By the time they reach other countries, it will be a disaster only if they have bad luck and one of them happen to walk into a city, but it won't be a human extinction level as they are saying. It's looks to me like they are spreading out but walking in more of a cone then circle. They could also do the wide lawnmowing statagey. Or going in a line then turning around and doing the line next to them. Also there is about 10 million of them. While it will take a while they can easily crush everything given enough time.
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I think they’re going in one a big line and just going like this but bigger and just once 
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Since Eren is controlling/directing them they don't really need to establish some sort of pattern that guarantees coverage.
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DaveKap posted:Considering all the wall titans look exactly the same while no other titans we've seen thus far have looked like any other titans, I believe the wall titans are an entirely separate breed of titan that we don't actually know about. Very much PATHS bullshit and likely not even actual people. The wall titans have fairly uniform body proportions but their heads are different.  
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Never mind what I said, then!
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Also most of the earth is water, they don’t need full coverage of a sphere
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In the end, I guess it's a question if Eren controls or directs the Titans or not. If he does, then he will direct then towards land, he can make them a narrow front that sweeps like a broom in a specific direction, etc. If he doesn't and he just 'broke the seal', so to speak, then my argument holds.
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Turin Turambar posted:In the end, I guess it's a question if Eren controls or directs the Titans or not. If he does, then he will direct then towards land, he can make them a narrow front that sweeps like a broom in a specific direction, etc. I think that's what we've been shown. Like you said previously, if Eren wasn't herding them together each giant would be kilometers apart from the others.
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Turin Turambar posted:In the end, I guess it's a question if Eren controls or directs the Titans or not. If he does, then he will direct then towards land, he can make them a narrow front that sweeps like a broom in a specific direction, etc. If he doesn't and he just 'broke the seal', so to speak, then my argument holds. Eren is currently behind the wall titans, following them. I don't think that's unreasonable for him to be directing them.
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Eren's only supervising one particular front of the Rumbling. We've already seen colossal titans stomping Not!England and and Not!Japan, which are thousands of miles from where Eren currently is. If he is controlling them all, range is not a factor.
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Aye, we were explicitly shown Eren reaching every Eldian with his rumbling announcement. Distance doesn’t matter.
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I assume he’s behind this particular group because he’s seen that for his desired future to happen that’s where he’s got to be.
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https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2021-01-04/attack-on-titan-manga-ends-on-april-9-after-11-years/.168113 Manga confirmed to finish up in April with 139.
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