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Inferior Third Season posted:The same thing happened to me when I used to live near Denver. A city directly east of a range of mountains visible from anywhere that are aligned almost perfectly north-south. Yeah I feel this. In New York where there's bodies of water in every direction but even more so when I lived in Kingston, Ontario. There's literally a giant ocean sized lake to the south of Kingston and a river running east from it. I cannot fathom how some people just... don't know where Lake fuckin Ontario is relative to where they are, even if they can't tell from the sun. Also the sun isn't hard to figure out. It isn't esoteric nerd poo poo, it's always east in the morning, west in the evening, southwards because we're in the northern hemisphere 
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I was watching Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure for the first time in a while, and a plot point revolves around Ted forgetting to wind his watch. I wonder how immediately understandable that is to kids today.
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Jan 2, 2021 10:49
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My Lovely Horse posted:Some time ago I went on holiday in Ireland and we actually wanted to rent a car and take the country roads. Entirely worth it, even though the narrow bits (= all of most roads) were a bit nerve wracking at first, and also even though more than one time we went "ooh, let's turn left here, looks interesting" and ended up circling a farm on a dirt path or carefully crawling along some neighborhood's access road where someone had a cow on their tiny lot. Oh yeah, I love just roaming around a strange place/country just to see what I can find. South-East of Ireland is really good for this because there are still a good few Norman tower houses just standing around in fields with no touristy development, so you feel like an explorer when you find one. I just wouldn't recommend anyone visiting Ireland who in a hurrychoosing to take most direct route on small roads versus a less direct one on major roads. sample of random Norman mini-castle in a field:  http://www.megalithicireland.com/Threecastles,%20Wicklow.html There's actually one of these in my hometown that I've never gotten to see close-up because it's so fenced off due to structural instability.
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Jan 2, 2021 11:57
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HopperUK posted:I was watching Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure for the first time in a while, and a plot point revolves around Ted forgetting to wind his watch. I wonder how immediately understandable that is to kids today. I was 9 when that movie came out and didn't know wtf that meant, watches had batteries. I may have only learned about winding watches from that movie. So what I'm saying is it was already dated for children.
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Mechanical watches were on the decline all through the seventies. Switzerland went from exporting forty million watches in 1973 to three million in 1983. Ted’s watch was an anachronism already in 1989. eta: quote:In 1978, Commodore introduced a collection of 15 LCD watches priced from $7.95 to $19.95. They were sold in blister packs in department stores, grocery stores, drugstores, and electronics shops. Platystemon fucked around with this message at 13:26 on Jan 2, 2021 |
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Jan 2, 2021 13:22
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What's a watch? I kid, of course. But the number of people who wear watches is declining. Unless you're in an area where you can't use a cellphone for some reason, most people aren't going to have a watch.
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Jan 2, 2021 14:36
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Cemetry Gator posted:What's a watch? I still see people asking strangers for the time by tapping their wrist meaningfully (and have occasionally done this myself). It works more often than not.
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Jan 2, 2021 19:51
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So I was watching The Degrassi-The Next Class spinoff, and noticed that the show immediately goes into exploring the reunion plot with the adults, and then realized that the adults must be part of the cast from the previous show.
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Jan 2, 2021 20:23
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Parahexavoctal posted:I still see people asking strangers for the time by tapping their wrist meaningfully (and have occasionally done this myself). It works more often than not. I wonder if that's going to become a relic gesture though, like how people will still mime an old-fashioned telephone handset.
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Jan 2, 2021 22:06
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Parahexavoctal posted:I still see people asking strangers for the time by tapping their wrist meaningfully (and have occasionally done this myself). It works more often than not. This doesn't actually require people to know what a wristwatch is, they just need to know the gesture. Like kids know that raised night fingers mean "gently caress" without actually knowing it's the finger you would put in a vagina. A more thread relevant, but less similar, example is the phrase "I got the wrong number", which refers to the office operator making the physical connection of phone lines wrong. Incidentally, I've started wearing a watch last year, and it's kind of common in situations where checking your phone is not cool, like in meetings and especially if you're a teacher.
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Jan 2, 2021 22:06
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i’ve worn watches since i was a kid, leaving the house without one feels like going out without pants at this point. it’s very helpful for situations when you can’t look at your phone, and when you’re trying to curb a phone addiction
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:Yeah I feel this. In New York where there's bodies of water in every direction but even more so when I lived in Kingston, Ontario. There's literally a giant ocean sized lake to the south of Kingston and a river running east from it. I cannot fathom how some people just... don't know where Lake fuckin Ontario is relative to where they are, even if they can't tell from the sun. Fun fact: Sometimes, the sun is northwards of you, everywhere* on Earth. Let's look at the northern summer solstice. At the equator, it's always to the north, from rise to noon to set. Going north to the tropic of cancer, the sunrise and set have migrated slightly north, but the noon sun has now gone south to straight up. As you keep going north, the rise and set keep going north and the noon keeps going south. Just shy of the arctic circle, the rise and set are nearly straight north. Inside the arctic circle, the midnight sun reaches its lowest point in the sky due north. But for most people in the northern middle latitudes, rise east set west sun is to the south is all you need to know. *I'm ignoring the north pole. This site lets you play around and see where the sun would be anywhere on any date 1600-2600 AD on earth. https://www.timeanddate.com/sun/@3422359?month=7&year=2021 Unreal_One fucked around with this message at 23:23 on Jan 2, 2021 |
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Jan 2, 2021 23:10
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HopperUK posted:I wonder if that's going to become a relic gesture though, like how people will still mime an old-fashioned telephone handset. Smartwatches are a thing.
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Jan 2, 2021 23:12
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Almost every major city has SOME method of naming its streets that clues you into the cardinal directions if you know how it works. For example, in my city only longitudinal streets are numbered, for example, NE 23rd, except for a street that's effectively "zero" street. North of zero street, all the numbered streets are "north x" and south of zero street, they're all "south x". So right there you have all the clues you need at any time to know what direction you're going. If you're coming up to NE 10th and the next intersection is NE 11th, you know you're going north. If you know you're going north, then you know the east is always on your right, etc. Almost every big city has some kind of system like this. Don't @ me every exception. Boston... ugh. I used to be a clerk at 7-Eleven pre-smartphones and I loving hated giving directions to people who couldn't do cardinal directions. It doesn't require you to know where the sun is to know what direction you're going. If you can remember how the directions relate to each other, and you know which direction you started out going in, you should just... know. I don't know how to explain it better than that. Imagined fucked around with this message at 23:47 on Jan 2, 2021 |
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Jan 2, 2021 23:39
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Imagined posted:Almost every major city has SOME method of naming its streets that clues you into the cardinal directions if you know how it works. Almost every American city maybe! You'd have a bad time navigating London that way.  Though really I mean every new city, cause you can do a trick like that in Milton Keynes.
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Jan 2, 2021 23:58
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Imagined posted:I used to be a clerk at 7-Eleven pre-smartphones and I loving hated giving directions to people who couldn't do cardinal directions. It doesn't require you to know where the sun is to know what direction you're going. If you can remember how the directions relate to each other, and you know which direction you started out going in, you should just... know. I don't know how to explain it better than that. Depending on person, it's between a learning disability and just not being good at it. In the same way you wouldn't get that upset at someone bad at math for not being able to do 12x13 in their head, or with dyslexia for reading bog as dog, someone can know that when facing north east is to the left and still not be able to retain and use cardinal directions, or in the moment swap left and right. Something everyone needs to remind themselves frequently is other people's minds work differently. VV The funny thing is that occurred because I started by putting "facing east" then swapped them because who the gently caress would start with "facing east", instead of the much less embarrassing "proves my point" Unreal_One fucked around with this message at 00:36 on Jan 3, 2021 |
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Jan 3, 2021 00:14
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Unreal_One posted:someone can know that when facing north east is to the left Um, it's to the right? Edit: I'm not mad at you though.
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If I'm at the point of asking directions at a gas station, you can be assured I no longer know where north is
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Scudworth posted:If I'm at the point of asking directions at a gas station, you can be assured I no longer know where north is Except the guy you're asking just pointed down the street and said "Go west on 10th, which is THAT WAY", so now you know. And then he watched you go the exact opposite way as you turned out of the parking lot.  HopperUK posted:Almost every American city maybe! You'd have a bad time navigating London that way. Fair enough. Almost every city which mostly developed since the invention of the car, at least. Imagined fucked around with this message at 01:22 on Jan 3, 2021 |
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Jan 3, 2021 01:12
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HopperUK posted:Almost every American city maybe! You'd have a bad time navigating London that way. I used to get a rough sense of direction looking at television aerials in London. They broadly pointed towards crystal palace transmitting tower. So if you knew where abouts you were, you could sort of work a direction out relative to crystal palace. Now I use my phone.
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Jan 3, 2021 06:50
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In the northern hemisphere, satellite dishes point vaguely southward.
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When my kid mime's taking a picture, its like he's using a smartphone, not a camera.
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Jack B Nimble posted:Um, it's to the right?
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Clockwise NESW. Cause Never Eat Soggy Weetabix. Land of the rising sun = east. That's how I know it.
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Alterian posted:When my kid mime's taking a picture, its like he's using a smartphone, not a camera. Weirdly, that started before smartphones, after point and shoot cameras started having LCD's. We've had a solid 2 decades of everyone holding their cameras out at arms' length like dumbasses. syntaxfunction posted:Clockwise NESW. Cause Never Eat Soggy Weetabix. Land of the rising sun = east. That's how I know it. Never Eat Soggy Worms. I have to use that more often than I am going to admit. I had to look up what Weetabix was. Honestly, worms look more appetizing.
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Krispy Wafer posted:Never Eat Soggy Worms. I have to use that more often than I am going to admit. We always learned Never Eat Soggy Waffles. I think I like worms better though!
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I learned it as Never Eat Shredded Wheat because my school was lame. Also my teacher once snapped and yelled “hummers mother will cease!” during a test once, which was totally lost on me in the 90’s and probably makes less sense to people now.
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lignicolos posted:We always learned Never Eat Soggy Waffles. I think I like worms better though! It was 'never eat sour watermelons' when I was in Scouts.
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Ugly In The Morning posted:Also my teacher once snapped and yelled “hummers mother will cease!” during a test once, which was totally lost on me in the 90’s and probably makes less sense to people now. I have no idea what that is.
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I tried googling it but no dice
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It was probably just an outburst of a lunatic then. That year was... weird.
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Yeah that sounds like aphasia levels of ???? No idea what that could mean. And I never got taught a mnemonic for the directions. I just was expected to learn them. But I grew up in the woods near a big north-south river so it might be a local thing.
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The other day a co-worker at my restaurant asked what the special of the week was. A dude (who's about 40) said "2 all beef patties, special sauce, lettuce, cheese, pickles, onions, on a sesame seed bun". I laughed; the guy asking looked confused as hell, and suddenly a bunch of us felt old.
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Xiahou Dun posted:Yeah that sounds like aphasia levels of ???? No idea what that could mean. Me either, but we grew up sailing (not rich assholes btw) and it's amazing how much weather forecast/directional knowledge stays with you. Sailors are HARDCORE about directions and suchlike. Check out a compass with sailing subdivisions, we got poo poo like north west by west, east northeast and so on.
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Yeah I got taught to use a compass so early that I don’t remember it. And I totally get why you’d want that level of precision on a boat and I can easily understand the terminology, but for hiking the majority of the time you can just say “this way” unless you’re communally coming up with a course. Because you’re not expecting someone to gently caress with the sails or whatever and you’re just walking.
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Pookah posted:Me either, but we grew up sailing (not rich assholes btw) and it's amazing how much weather forecast/directional knowledge stays with you. Sailors are HARDCORE about directions and suchlike. Check out a compass with sailing subdivisions, we got poo poo like north west by west, east northeast and so on. My wife grew up sailing, and she insists on knowing and using cardinal directions all the time. It's really dumb, because the sensible thing is to use towards/away from city center and/or a relevant neighborhood of the city.
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Oh yeah, its not always the best choice but it's something that for some reason really sticks with you. I still listen to the sea area forecast because it's so simple and straightforward ( and because I love love love the lists and groupings of the sea areas) 'thames, dover wight, portland, plymouth, wind south, backing southeast force 5, dropping to force 3 or 4, clear, visibility more than 30 miles. Fair. Becoming good. It's incredibly nostalgic for me  Edit: winds dont back from south to southeast?!?! I am scarlet for me. Pookah fucked around with this message at 20:38 on Jan 3, 2021 |
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If you think about a city is just a chunky ocean with poor visibility.
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:Yeah I feel this. In New York where there's bodies of water in every direction but even more so when I lived in Kingston, Ontario. There's literally a giant ocean sized lake to the south of Kingston and a river running east from it. I cannot fathom how some people just... don't know where Lake fuckin Ontario is relative to where they are, even if they can't tell from the sun. I currently live at the other end of that lake, and work in various areas around that end. Even after many years, i still get confused when I go around to the other side, and all of a sudden the lake is to the north, not the south.
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BonHair posted:My wife grew up sailing, and she insists on knowing and using cardinal directions all the time. It's really dumb, because the sensible thing is to use towards/away from city center and/or a relevant neighborhood of the city. I am lucky to live on a peninsula, because when in doubt I ask myself, "Toward the bay or toward the ocean?"
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