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When discussion of a movie centers around the fact that the plot makes no sense, or that it's thematically incoherent, it's usually a good indicator that the movie has failed to divert its audience as designed. The movie's biggest sin isn't that there are too many characters, or that all the wish stuff is convoluted, or that Wonder Woman and her boyfriend kind of raped a guy, the movie's biggest sin is that its boring and leaves the audience to ponder the aforementioned issues. Infinity War/Endgame are also messy and too long, but they were also generally propulsive enough that people largely were able to suspend disbelief and come along for the ride.
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General Dog posted:When discussion of a movie centers around the fact that the plot makes no sense, or that it's thematically incoherent, it's usually a good indicator that the movie has failed to divert its audience as designed. The movie's biggest sin isn't that there are too many characters, or that all the wish stuff is convoluted, or that Wonder Woman and her boyfriend kind of raped a guy, the movie's biggest sin is that its boring and leaves the audience to ponder the aforementioned issues. Infinity War/Endgame are also messy and too long, but they were also generally propulsive enough that people largely were able to suspend disbelief and come along for the ride. That is a good point. However, it feels like the whole genre of clickbait (pioneered by Cracked, I believe) about how you won't believe what this famous movie was really about! (if you remove it from its context and cherry-pick out a few moments) has infected a lot of the regular discourse and now basically every movie faces a barrage of hot takes on twitter about how if you squint real hard there's something really terrible in there.
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Jan 5, 2021 22:01
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It’s effected the discourse, but I don’t think it’s had a big impact on the final consensus of “good/bad.” Like, I don’t know if I’ve ever walked away from a movie thinking “if this plot point had been better explained, or if this plot hole and been sewn up, then this bad movie would’ve been good.”
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Jan 5, 2021 22:05
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PostNouveau posted:Yeah, if WW84 had been the same tone as the beginning of it (not the lesbian island olympics part), with the goofy 80s mall robbery and Kristen Wiig being all jokey jokey and Pedro Pascal hamming it up and a literal wishing stone, it would have gotten along fine. But like halfway through it swerves real serious. Exactly this. That mall open, was perfect. The olympics thing was just long and awful, but I thought ok hey were in for some fun here now, maybe they learned from Shazam. They didn’t. These tweets have a point, which the author or the person who posted them don’t really seem to understand. The point is this, these kinds of films are not supposed to be taken seriously, that I agree on... but when the films themselves try to take themselves serious, so must we.
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Jan 5, 2021 22:41
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Your movie is literally about a stone that grants wishes shut the gently caress up about truth and true love and poo poo.
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Jan 5, 2021 22:53
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Maybe Chris Pine is the problem. I don't dislike him, but they cast Pedro Pascal and Kristen Wiig, who are actors who are charismatic enough to drag along the Gal Gadot dead weight, you have to let them actually do that. It goes to total poo poo when he shows up.
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Jan 5, 2021 22:58
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Chris Pine is amazing and my favourite thing about those awful films. He’s insanely underrated. Hell or High Water is the good stuff.
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Jan 5, 2021 22:59
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Quantum of Phallus posted:Chris Pine is amazing and my favourite thing about those awful films. He’s insanely underrated. Hell or High Water is the good stuff. Heck yeah Jeff Bridges was really great in that too, I loved the ending.
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Jan 5, 2021 23:02
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Into The Mild posted:We also shouldn’t want a single streaming platform, but we should want to end exclusives. This probably won’t happen, but it’s a nice dream. Monopolies suck. Exclusives aren't a monopoly. If anything it's kind of the opposite of a monopoly since it's something that is made as a result of competition between platforms. Plus there's zero difference between modern streaming exclusives and twenty years ago when you could only watch The Sopranos on HBO or whatever, people have just gotten lazier and more entitled about their entertainment options over the years. LanceHunter posted:This tweet thread sums up a lot of the ridiculousness of this thread really well. That's a lot of words to say "just turn your brain off"
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Jan 5, 2021 23:03
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Quantum of Phallus posted:Chris Pine is amazing and my favourite thing about those awful films. He’s insanely underrated. Hell or High Water is the good stuff. He's very charming but his presence raises so many of the questions that the film shouldn't be concerned with. It sends Wonder Woman into a self-pitying spiral for the climax too. I feel like there's a version of that script where Pedro Pascal straight-up ganks the wishing stone and Wonder Woman and her weirdo friend who's clearly in love with her have a globe-trotting adventure chasing him and Kristen Wiig just takes Chris Pine's place.
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Jan 5, 2021 23:06
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Anyone I’ve talked to about the first WW film said that he was the best part so I can see why they brought him back. It’s like when they killed off Mahershala Ali in Daredevil or Colin Farrel in Fantastic Beasts except they managed to fix it, albeit weirdly.
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Jan 5, 2021 23:09
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Kristen Wiig was not good in the movie at all, it felt like she was doing a parody of one of her SNL characters. Idk what she had to work with but it needed to be cut not added to
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Jan 5, 2021 23:15
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Guys, I watched all Guy Ritchie moopies and Legend in like two days, pls hapl.
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Jan 5, 2021 23:17
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Galewolf posted:Guys, I watched all Guy Ritchie moopies and Legend in like two days, pls hapl. https://www.mentalhealth.gov/get-help/immediate-help
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Jan 5, 2021 23:23
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Snatch Lock Stock Rock'n'Rolla Sherlock moopies The Nike World Cup Ad The Gentleman Arthur the Legend of the Sword The Man from UNCLE Revolver Swept Away lmao
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Jan 5, 2021 23:27
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Galewolf posted:Snatch No Aladdin? Call yourself a completionist, pft
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Jan 5, 2021 23:31
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PostNouveau posted:No Aladdin? Call yourself a completionist, pft I wasn't strong enough, a shameful display 
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Jan 5, 2021 23:32
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Didn’t he direct a Robin Hood movie too
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Jan 5, 2021 23:32
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General Dog posted:Didn’t he direct a Robin Hood movie too Nah, that's the guy directed some Peoky Bloindahs eps and other random tv eps but yeah it looked like a Guy Ritchie moopie.
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Jan 5, 2021 23:37
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General Dog posted:Didn’t he direct a Robin Hood movie too He directed a terrible King Arthur film but the Robin Hood film you’re thinking of was actually directed by Otto Bathurst, a fairly competent TV director.
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Jan 5, 2021 23:38
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What a crushing thing it would be to assume the mantle of “poor man’s 2010s Guy Ritchie” Although I kind of like Man from UNCLE
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Jan 5, 2021 23:38
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Man from UNCLE is fun but the ending is the most forgettable thing ever that I still don't know what happened outside of a Dune buggy chase.
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Jan 5, 2021 23:45
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Arcsquad12 posted:Man from UNCLE is fun but the ending is the most forgettable thing ever that I still don't know what happened outside if a Dune buggy chase. The only specific thing I remember at all is something on a speedboat
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Jan 5, 2021 23:48
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I've never seen Gal Gadot actually act in anything. I've always just known her as "that gross former IDF soldier who loves to randomly post about how great the IDF is like the same day they get caught killin' a bunch of kids again" but holy poo poo how does she have a career she can't act at all!
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Jan 5, 2021 23:53
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Baronjutter posted:I've never seen Gal Gadot actually act in anything. I've always just known her as "that gross former IDF soldier who loves to randomly post about how great the IDF is like the same day they get caught killin' a bunch of kids again" but holy poo poo how does she have a career she can't act at all! I think she got famous for the Fast & Furious movies? Which as you can see don't require a lot of, like, acting-acting. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUz1qH_f0rQ Edit: lol I just remembered she's gonna play Cleopatra
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"Wasn't that an Italian movie in the 70's? And you want to be the lead? Why that sounds amazing dear, I'd be delighted to direct it!" Famous upcoming British director. Galewolf fucked around with this message at 00:04 on Jan 6, 2021 |
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Jan 5, 2021 23:59
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I have seen every F&F movie multiple times and I swear to god I don’t remember a single thing Gal Gadot did in any of them.
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She's gorgeous but there have gotta be equally pretty women that can at least passably act. Not sure how she got where she is.
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Jan 6, 2021 00:11
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Did she also steal these recipes or
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AHH F/UGH posted:Did she also steal these recipes or SteveRogersIGetThatReference.jpeg
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Groovelord Neato posted:She's gorgeous but there have gotta be equally pretty women that can at least passably act. Not sure how she got where she is. She's a fine actress in my opinion, but her support of IDF shooting rock-throwing Palestinian kids and her confusing need to pimp Huawei android phones (on her iPhone lol) is completely baffling (unless she's just a lovely person) Like Natalie Portman is a good actress and she also denounces the lovely rear end right wing government of Israel so welp AHH F/UGH fucked around with this message at 00:17 on Jan 6, 2021 |
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Jan 6, 2021 00:15
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AHH F/UGH posted:She's a fine actress in my opinion, but her support of IDF shooting rock-throwing Palestinian kids and her confusing need to pimp Huawei android phones (on her iPhone lol) is completely baffling (unless she's just a lovely person) The IDF stuff is of course worse but she's a plank of wood.
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This is Gal Gadot's biggest crime https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQK32bwvRuI
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LanceHunter posted:a barrage of hot takes on twitter about how if you squint real hard there's something really terrible in there. that's everything in the entire world, though.
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Jan 6, 2021 00:19
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You don't have to squint to see the terrible in Blunder Woman.
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Jan 6, 2021 00:22
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Cacator posted:This is Gal Gadot's biggest crime C...can we...like, you know, once this Covid is over...not tell celebrities so they will never leave their homes ever again?
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Jan 6, 2021 00:24
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Cacator posted:This is Gal Gadot's biggest crime This is my literal reaction every time I see that video thumbnail 
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Jan 6, 2021 00:28
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AHH F/UGH posted:Did she also steal these recipes or A bunch of less successful cooking show hosts calling her a recipe thief for using flour and butter and eggs in a cookie recipe.
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Cacator posted:This is Gal Gadot's biggest crime Oh dear god I forgot about this travesty
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Galewolf posted:C...can we...like, you know, once this Covid is over...not tell celebrities so they will never leave their homes ever again? Why? You want another video?
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