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Thus proving it is physically impossible to sound badass in French. All the other ones are great, though.
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Fruits of the sea posted:e: dark souls is... special with m+k. People have gotten good at it, but it's not something I would recommend to anybody.  Probably helps that I always focus on big dumb berserker builds so I don't need to worry about L1/L2 stuff basically ever, but even then there's a couple of different methods to sorting out the controls (with the caveat that the default binds are almost always terrible) that makes them perfectly workable. Especially given the comparatively slow pace of both games.Obviously it's never going to be as elegant as using a controller, but I think it would really only feel weird and wrong if you're already used to playing with one or maybe running a really convoluted dual wield magic casting parrying dagger hybrid thing.
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Jan 7, 2021 12:42
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It disturbs me how many people on here post from their £5000 dual monitor pc super gaming setups which totally lack a £20 game controller
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JollyBoyJohn posted:It disturbs me how many people on here post from their £5000 dual monitor pc super gaming setups which totally lack a £20 game controller I have a pretty decent computer but still use a wired xbox 360 controller. 
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Suburban Dad posted:I have a pretty decent computer but still use a wired xbox 360 controller. Same man still my original 360 controller from nearly 15 years ago. Tried others - switch pro, dual shock but nothing bests that 360 controller for me
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JollyBoyJohn posted:Same man still my original 360 controller from nearly 15 years ago. Tried others - switch pro, dual shock but nothing bests that 360 controller for me I got an Elite 2 and it's worth it just to be able to remap thumb stick clicks to actual buttons
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I wanted so badly to make the Elite v2 my daily driver, but the only place that had them available around me was a Target, and they apparently received a bad batch of them because the “A” button would intermittently not register on all three of them (like 10% of the time, which made platformers basically impossible) even across multiple computers...so I ended up going with a Razer Wolverine Ultimate as an alternative and haven’t regretted it. You get the hot-swappable sticks and d-pad plus the bindable extra 6 buttons, but it’s not wireless. I expected the absence of a wireless receiver was going to be more annoying than it ended up being; the lack of a battery actually makes the whole thing about 1/2-2/3rds the weight of an Elite v2, which is kind of nice.
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BrianRx posted:The PC is currently connected via Powerline to ethernet but was connected directly to the router in the past (at least 3 different routers over the years). I don't think it's a client issue because that 3.5 MB/s has persisted on multiple installs of both Windows and Steam. Bandwidth has also never been limited through the client. Anyone experience this or have any ideas of what the cause could be? I'm not sure if I'm parsing the above correctly but I had a power/ethernet connection that went to extremely low speeds whenever I connected a specific device plug anywhere near it. It started making whining high pitched noises and the speed went down way low. Edit: ah, beaten. Hope you get it sorted out. Mongolian Queef fucked around with this message at 15:22 on Jan 7, 2021 |
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JollyBoyJohn posted:Same man still my original 360 controller from nearly 15 years ago. Tried others - switch pro, dual shock but nothing bests that 360 controller for me I bought one of the series X (new new new one that launched with the console I guess) and it felt terrible. Weird texture on the grips and the sticks felt super long. I just put new joysticks on my 360 controller after returning it since they were worn down to nubs.
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I needed a second controller for local multiplayer and also wanted to replace my non-bluetooth Xbone controller with bluetooth versions but the Elites were too dearly priced so I waited until I could pick up a pair of the new Xbox Series controllers. They're nice! Obviously a very subtle upgrade from the Xbone (why reinvent the wheel) but I like the mappable share button (I've been trying to use something like ReWASD to map it to Alt+F4 for emulators), the d-pad feels slightly better, the triggers feel nice, and the texture is pleasing. They feel like they took some of the nice features of the Elites and applied them at the normal price point. Edit: obviously ymmv ^ Imagined fucked around with this message at 15:53 on Jan 7, 2021 |
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I bought a wireless Xbone controller and I can't stand it. It's probably just due to lack of use but the buttons require a lot more force than my PS4's controller. I mean it's not like it takes any real effort, but if I'm quickly button mashing some times I guess I don't ~fully~ press down on something and it just doesn't register. The few times a year I play Siralim or something on it it always takes some getting used to.
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Quick reminder Epic coupons expire in about an hour if anybody wants to buy anything there.
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Hub Cat posted:Quick reminder Epic coupons expire in about an hour if anybody wants to buy anything there. Bought myself Ghostrunner as a last-minute decision; thanks for reminder. Also bought Outer Wilds. Tempted to get Desperados 3 as well, but I can probably wait for a next sale cycle (so much backlog!)
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We use two wireless Xbox 360 controllers with a charging dock and it's great, we always know where the controllers are and never have to go out of our way to charge them or buy new batteries and they work with basically everything. Perfect for couch co-op or each of us doing our own separate thing with our own controller. Also if you're a PC gamer there's no real excuse not to have a controller, for a lot of games it's going to have a way bigger impact on your enjoyment and performance than squeezing an extra couple of frames in or adding in another layer of AA.
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I got an elite 2 controller and I love it but it has very bad problems with Bluetooth connection. Depends on the game but it will just randomly hitch and make the game stutter and lose connection. Apparently it’s a known issue that’s been around for years so it will probably never be fixed which is a shame.
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Jan 7, 2021 16:27
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Any sort of issue big or small in a $180 peripheral makes the whole thing a waste of money imo. At that price it should be perfect. Any product at any price should be perfect but really it's $180.
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I still have my Xbox 360 controller from way back but I've been using DualShock 4 pretty much exclusively since getting a PlayStation 4 Pro some 3 years ago. I like the Switch Pro Controller as well but don't use it for PC gaming as much.
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i just need to order more cords... i have an xbox one controller, steam controller (both of which use the same cord), and then i have two dualshock 4s, which are notorious for destroying the cables (or mini-USB is just bad by itself)
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Yeah I want some more Switch controllers for emulators because even though I have a Switch the process of switching from using them on the Switch to on the PC is tedious, and it's good for emulators that they stick with the classic Nintendo positioning of YXBA. If anyone ever feels like Nintendo is being contrarian by having a different layout, remember that they invented it and it was SEGA (with the Dreamcast) and Microsoft (who basically patterned the OG Xbox on the Dreamcast) who deliberately started doing it XYAB instead. The Dreamcast even had the A button as red.  Still my favorite underdog console though. lovely thing about the Switch Pro is the $69.99 MSRP that only comes down to $59.99 "on sale". But it's built like a tank and the battery lasts for weeks. I think you could brain somebody with a Switch Pro. Has anyone used a PS5 controller on PC yet? I've heard Sony made actual drivers this time. Imagined fucked around with this message at 16:49 on Jan 7, 2021 |
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does the switch pro have actual analog triggers this time? i love my wii u pro, and use it on my PC all the time, but the crappy triggers ruins it for me. the infinite battery life is amazing tho.
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JollyBoyJohn posted:It disturbs me how many people on here post from their £5000 dual monitor pc super gaming setups which totally lack a £20 game controller For the record, I've put down money for an array of different controllers (including a basic 360 pad, yes) and the main outcome has been the realization that I don't like using controllers very much.
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Imagined posted:Yeah I want some more Switch controllers for emulators because even though I have a Switch the process of switching from using them on the Switch to on the PC is tedious, and it's good for emulators that they stick with the classic Nintendo positioning of YXBA. If anyone ever feels like Nintendo is being contrarian by having a different layout, remember that they invented it and it was SEGA (with the Dreamcast) and Microsoft (who basically patterned the OG Xbox on the Dreamcast) who deliberately started doing it XYAB instead. The Dreamcast even had the A button as red. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0748S3GXG/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_awdb_imm_t1_eSZ9FbT2ERWBT?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1 This controller rules for retro gaming and also is cross-compatible with both PC and Switch. There's one without the joysticks if you prefer. It also works with Raspberry Pi and Android so it's great for any homebrew retro boxes you've set up.
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queeb posted:does the switch pro have actual analog triggers this time? i love my wii u pro, and use it on my PC all the time, but the crappy triggers ruins it for me. the infinite battery life is amazing tho. Nope the Switch Pro triggers are digital
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With most of the games you'd actually want to play on controller needing a claw grip on a standard controller, I'm really wanting to see a controller with buttons on the back like the Xbox Elite controllers, but not so expensive and not so poo poo.
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repiv posted:Nope the Switch Pro triggers are digital rip. guess its another xbone controller, unless the ps5 one works well!
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John Murdoch posted:For the record, I've put down money for an array of different controllers (including a basic 360 pad, yes) and the main outcome has been the realization that I don't like using controllers very much. Hey man I have nothing but respect for anyone that wants to play certain games with a mouse and keyboard - the 2 that come to mind (i tried them last time both my batteries were dead) are rocket league and dark souls which were almost as unintuitive as speaking German. At least you own the drat controllers, its an option, these folk who just steadfastly refuse to own one, they are the real monsters.
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JollyBoyJohn posted:Hey man I have nothing but respect for anyone that wants to play certain games with a mouse and keyboard - the 2 that come to mind (i tried them last time both my batteries were dead) are rocket league and dark souls which were almost as unintuitive as speaking German. At least you own the drat controllers, its an option, these folk who just steadfastly refuse to own one, they are the real monsters.  Why should anyone hobble themself to the limitations of a controller?    Seriously, the biggest gripe I have about controllers is their effect on UI by lackluster developers. Looking at you, Bethesda.
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Worse than lazy controller-focused ports of games better played with M+KB are lazy touchscreen-focused ports of games better played with a mouse, e.g. so many of the board games on Steam.
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I think controllers lend themselves to good game UX better than keyboards do honestly. A bad/lazy controller-based UI is probably worse than a bad keyboard-based one (i.e. everything is behind a lovely menu like in Skyrim), but it's equally bad in my eyes to just have a million shortcuts assigned to every key on the keyboard. Radial menus and chorded inputs (i.e. hold L1 and push something) are far superior to ever having to touch the 9 key.
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Just hedge your bet- hold the control stick of your gamepad in one hand, have the other use your mouse. Best of both worlds.
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Volte posted:I think controllers lend themselves to good game UX better than keyboards do honestly. A bad/lazy controller-based UI is probably worse than a bad keyboard-based one (i.e. everything is behind a lovely menu like in Skyrim), but it's equally bad in my eyes to just have a million shortcuts assigned to every key on the keyboard. Radial menus and chorded inputs (i.e. hold L1 and push something) are far superior to ever having to touch the 9 key. I think a lot of the UI elements blamed on controller-focused design could more accurately be ascribed to ten-foot design. What annoys me often isn't specifically how the menu works but how much space is wasted or underutilized compared to something designed for a person sitting 3 feet in front of the screen because it was meant for someone to be able to parse from across a room. The controller/keyboard element is just another part of the same consideration.
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FFXIV shows you can have a 32-button hotbar MMO play just fine with a controller
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40 Proof Listerine posted:FFXIV shows you can have a 32-button hotbar MMO play just fine with a controller FFXIV is a fine game but I definitely wouldn't hold it up as a paragon of menu design. It's barely better in that regard than Phantasy Star Online 2.
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Mr. Locke posted:Just hedge your bet- hold the control stick of your gamepad in one hand, have the other use your mouse. Best of both worlds. someone on the couch for the hades agdq run a couple days ago said this is how they actually play that game.
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