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Animorphs-Book 15:The Escape-Chapter 3quote:Erek the Chee used to be Erek this guy I knew from school. But Erek is a lot more than just some guy. The Chee are sweet, really. quote:Erek waited till we were done with our little prank. He waited till I was walking away through the mall with Jake. We had split from the others so as not to look like a “group.” Hardly a fun choice to have to make. Chapter 4 quote:<Yes, I know what a Leeran is. I have heard of that species,> Ax said. <But where did you hear that word?> Mixing up global warming and ozone holes here, but.... quote:Note to Alanis: That is ironic. That delightful Andalite mix of superiority and xenophobia. quote:“Erek. The Chee. He says there’s some kind of secret underwater thing going on with the Yeerks. He says some Leerans are involved.” Honestly, I think Marco is misreading his friends here, in large part, because he's so torn up by, first his mom's death, and then the discovery that she's alive but a Yeerk-Controller. There might be some pity, sure, but I think more of it would be Operation Let's Save Marco's Mom. This would still likely be a disaster, but they'd rally to him, not feel sorry for him. But Marco is obviously not emotionally ready to deal with who and what his mom has become.
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# ? Jan 6, 2021 04:04 |
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Chapter One posted:Tobias has regained his ability to morph now, but he’s still a red-tailed hawk. He can morph into his old human shape, but if he stays in that shape more than two hours, he’ll be trapped in it and never be able to morph again. He made the choice to live as a hawk and keep his morphing power. Chapter Three posted:“Erek didn’t mean anything bad. You know that,” Jake said. “He just meant -” That was pretty good foreshadowing there, assuming it was intentional.
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# ? Jan 6, 2021 06:41 |
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quote:I saw a woman’s eyes widen in shock. What she had seen was a kid stepping directly out of a casually chatting security guard. Another one for the dossier!
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# ? Jan 6, 2021 07:29 |
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quote:The girl wearing the costume stuck her head up and said, “Hey! What’s the matter with you?” This might be the funniest bit out of all the books this far.
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# ? Jan 6, 2021 07:42 |
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GodFish posted:This might be the funniest bit out of all the books this far. Oh, for sure. With the bonus mental image of V3 attempting to Acquire a suit...
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# ? Jan 6, 2021 08:01 |
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Animorphs-Book 15:The Escape-Chapter 5quote:In the end I told Jake we had to do it. We had to find out what the Yeerks were doing on Royan Island. But I told him not to tell the others the rest of it. About my mom. I still hoped somehow we’d be able to avoid my dark secret. And avoid pity. I mean, water can be scary, especially if you've been a hawk for a while. Chapter 6 quote:If you want to fly high and far, take on a bird-of-prey morph. But if you want to be able to go anywhere, without anyone really noticing, be a seagull. Really handy Cassie has all these animals on hand, isn't it? quote:We flew to The Gardens swift and low, the way seagulls do. And we noticed every last piece of edible garbage on the way. Every stray french fry, bread crust, burger fragment, candy wrapper, cheese puff, and melted jujube. Seagulls are as good at spotting edible garbage as hawks are at spotting mice. Do you think he's talking about himself here or his mom? quote:We flew over to the dolphin tank. Smooth gray torpedoes were swimming patterns against a blue background. Right. This is going to be fun.
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# ? Jan 7, 2021 05:23 |
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AlphaMale @USAWolfPack posted:Mr. Wood. I am not antifa or blm. I'm a Qanon & digital soldier. My name is Jake & I Animorphs reboot going in a really weird direction.
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# ? Jan 7, 2021 06:10 |
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Indie Rocktopus posted:Animorphs reboot going in a really weird direction. <Iniss, what the hell am I looking at?> “The humans call it QAnon, my Visser.”
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# ? Jan 7, 2021 06:21 |
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I'm getting the feeling that what Tobias doesn't want to admit is that he can't actually swim. Which maybe isn't unlikely if he was getting shunted around between uncaring guardians who weren't about to pay for lessons? Although I would've thought that in California it would be part of the school curriculum. Funny thing about the big open ocean. I grew up on the west coast of Australia and was always snorkelling, then moved to Melbourne for a few years, then was back again one summer, but in the interim there'd been a string of fatal shark attacks up and down the coast. And whereas I used to be completely carefree, after that I just... couldn't go out past the reef. Couldn't do it. The statistical odds were immensely unlikely that I'd ever even see a shark, but something about that huge immense stretch of water (and the water in WA is very clear) was just too creepy. Then on the other hand, a few years later I was at Ningaloo to go on a whale shark tour, where a spotter plane will spot the migrating whale sharks and the boat drops the swimmers off on the path they'll take and then departs (so as not to spook them). And you're out of sight of land at that point. And I thought that would be really, really scary, but somehow it was fine, because I was surrounded by a dozen other people. I'm not sure how much of that is just humans being social animals who are more confident in groups, or a subconscious calculation that other people are other targets. (Also once the whale shark shows up it's immensely cool and you forget about everything else.)
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# ? Jan 7, 2021 06:45 |
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It'd be funny to imagine a Yeerk infesting a QAnon adherent and getting brainwormed themselves when their host embraces the slug and feeds it bullshit conspiracy theories 24/7.
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# ? Jan 7, 2021 21:24 |
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Grammarchist posted:It'd be funny to imagine a Yeerk infesting a QAnon adherent and getting brainwormed themselves when their host embraces the slug and feeds it bullshit conspiracy theories 24/7. The Yeerks reading Qanon poo poo and deciding that they just need to find and infest the deep state would be a very funny story
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# ? Jan 7, 2021 23:18 |
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Soup du Jour posted:The Yeerks reading Qanon poo poo and deciding that they just need to find and infest the deep state would be a very funny story Alternatively, a yeerk begging to be transferred to another host, any other host, because this one is loving crazy and the yeerk is worried that the host is driving it crazy, too.
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# ? Jan 8, 2021 02:07 |
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Animorphs-Book 15:The Escape-Chapter 7quote:I guess we hadn’t really thought it through too well. See, as humans all we had to do to “acquire” a dolphin was to pet it as it came up to the side of the dolphin tank. Might be less traumatic for the dolphin if Tobias doesn't scream every time he's diving. quote:<Um … is this stupid?> Cassie asked, way too late. I love how they're all helping. quote:<I’m going to help,> I said. There you go. I think we've discovered a problem with the hawk animorph plan. Chapter 8 quote:We flew from The Gardens out toward the ocean. Everyone was in a pretty good mood, with the possible exception of Tobias. I like sarcastic Tobias. quote:We flew across the beach and the surfline and out over sparkling blue water. It was a warm day and the water was calm. We weren’t getting the kind of big, plump thermals Tobias liked for flying, but we weren’t dealing with totally dead air, either. Remember, dolphins are usually the aggressors in relation to sharks.
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# ? Jan 8, 2021 05:21 |
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Ahhh okay - I had a distinct memory of the others trying to hold someone up in dolphin morph so they didn't drown, and I suspected it might turn out Tobias couldn't swim and was too embarrassed to tell anyone, but it's the Marco scene from book 4. I only started reading this thread around book 5 so I'd totally forgotten that. I also remember that Tobias dolphin acquisition scene being way longer. When I was a kid it was the funniest thing in the world. I also remember Cassie getting crushed by a tank in roach morph being way longer and more horrifying.
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# ? Jan 8, 2021 08:32 |
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Epicurius posted:Animorphs-Book 14:The Unknown-Chapter 17 This is from the last book, but I always wondered as a kid if there was some way to make real money out of morphing, while still staying out of the public eye. It would be a lot easier to organise a guerrilla movement with a million dollar warchest and some sort of secret compound. (The racing idea is still bad though).
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Epicurius posted:Remember, dolphins are usually the aggressors in relation to sharks. That wasn't understood at the time. It was the 90s, dolphins were supposed to be smart, friendly, cheerful, and good-natured. Not the sex crazed thrill killers who torture pufferfish so they can get high off the toxins the puffers release when they inflate that we know they are now.
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# ? Jan 8, 2021 13:41 |
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Cythereal posted:That wasn't understood at the time. It was the 90s, dolphins were supposed to be smart, friendly, cheerful, and good-natured. <Throws pufferfish aside and eats a fish> Don't doxx me, please.. Interestingly enough the first big studies that came out about dolphin aggression were in the 90s. You're right, though, that it wasn't in the public consciousness. And, really, I think it still isn't. Most people still probably don't think of dolphins as sexually aggressive thrill killers with drug habits.
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Does it ever get explained why this one morph doesn't seem to put the dolphin in a trance?
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# ? Jan 8, 2021 19:15 |
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MrNemo posted:Does it ever get explained why this one morph doesn't seem to put the dolphin in a trance? It's funnier that way?
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# ? Jan 8, 2021 19:20 |
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MrNemo posted:Does it ever get explained why this one morph doesn't seem to put the dolphin in a trance? That was the dolphin's tranced state, it was just really amped up for the performance.
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MrNemo posted:Does it ever get explained why this one morph doesn't seem to put the dolphin in a trance? Sometimes the animal doesn't go into a trance. I can think of one or two others but they're spoilers for later books. Also Epicurius posted:It's funnier that way
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Animorphs-Book 15:The Escape-Chapter 9quote:<Let’s just swim a circle around this island and see what we see,> Jake suggested.<I’m guessing what we’ll see is fish,> I said. <The more I think about this, the more I wonder if maybe Erek was wrong. This island looks awfully peaceful.> Because Tobias was a hawk nothlit for so long without the ability to morph, I wonder if he's not as able to control his morph's instincts as well as the rest of them, who have more experience. quote:He took off and the rest of us followed. Ax came up behind us, but he was slower. Maybe his shark brain automatically disliked dolphins as much as dolphins dislike sharks. I don’t know. I didn’t care. I was in a race! In case you're curious as to why hammerheads look like that with the wide heads....sharks, all sharks have organs in their head called Ampullae of Lorenzini. These organs can detect electric fields, and that's the main way they hunt...they can detect the electric fields around other living things, and they use that to guide them to their prey. Since hammerheads have such wide heads, they have a wider sensory range than other sharks. I think that's kind of neat. Chapter 10 quote:We drove down beneath the surface, and there they were: hammerhead sharks. So, these sharks are acting unusually. First, some sharks do hunt in packs...certain reef sharks, certain dogfish, certain tiger sharks, and so on, but hammerheads don't. The ones that do tend to be smaller sharks that take on bigger prey. So that they're acting this way doesn't make a lot of sense in terms of normal shark behavior. Second, lets talk about feeding frenzies. There's this common idea that, if there's blood in the water, certain predatory fish, like sharks and piranha go into this maddened rush, biting everything in sight. This isn't entirely true. Sharks are attracted to blood, because they tend to have good senses of smell, and sharks, like most predators, prefer to go after wounded prey, because it's easier to catch. Feeding frenzies happen, though, when there's a large amount of easily available food. This basically gets the shark, or whatever animal we're talking about, excited to gorge itself, because in the wild, you take food where and when you can get it. Sometimes if there's a large number of sharks, they'll bite each other by accident, but that's all it is...they go for a prey animal, they miss and another shark gets in their way. If you want to see what a feeding frenzy looks like, here's a scene from "The Hunt", from BBC Earth. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zOarcL1BSc The image is a shoal of sardines hunted at the same time by sea lions, tuna, shearwaters, copper sharks, dolphins, and a Bryde's whale. It's something to see, and between them, they pretty much destroy the entire shoal.
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# ? Jan 9, 2021 06:51 |
That video was incredible.
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Epicurius posted:It's funnier that way? My immersion has been ruined by Tobias's immersion
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Hahaha that whale showing up at the end and just chomping the entire remaining school in one bite
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Animorphs-Book 15:The Escape-Chapter 11quote:The injured shark continued spewing blood into the water. The other sharks continued to ignore him. Marco has never seen a Great White Shark. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZVbSYRC9P0 quote:Inches from the rows of ripping teeth, we turned and headed up. I rocketed for the surface. That is probably a Leeran. quote:The person sitting in the captain’s chair must have said something. Because the frog thing sort of looked troubled, then shrugged in a very humanlike gesture. So, as we all expected, Visser One is here. Fun for Marco. Chapter 12 quote:I had homework to do when I got home. Tons of it. I was supposed to do a book report, among other things, and I had to have it in by Monday. Five pages. And my English teacher doesn’t respond well to five pages of babble and baloney. Another example of the author's love for The Lord of the Rings. quote:“What was I thinking, choosing a book this long?” I moaned. Marco and Jake (and I guess Melissa Chapman, although she doesn't know it) should start a group. Anyway, more seriously, Marco is selling himself short here, largely, I think, because of his own insecurity. He's "I can't talk about this stuff with Jake, even though he's my best friend and we're going through the same thing, because the only reason Jake likes me is because I don't talk about serious things. He likes me because I make him laugh." I don''t think this is true, but that being said, it's a very 13 or 14 year old thought to have, I think, and I don't think he's the only one in the world who has that sort of insecurity of "I can't share personal stuff with my friends." And, of course, the humor is his way to deflect his emotions. quote:I have a picture of my mom next to my bed. I look at it every night before I go to bed. I can never decide what I want to see when I look at it. I don’t know if I see the mother I lost, or the mother I want to rescue somehow. I don’t know anymore. I don't know if there's ever a good age to have to deal with that kind of stuff, but you know, he really is. In a lot of ways, the saddest part of the whole thing is that these kids are forced into something they're too young to be psychologically and emotionally ready for. They're child soldiers, really. And I think one of the things that makes this different than a lot of children's literature is that you don't see it a lot in a lot of other literature....you don't see the psychological effects, and really the negative effects. And this is a Marco book, but you're seeing this with all of the kids....Jake is having trouble dealing with the responsibilities of command, Rachel is growing more aggressive and reckless, Tobias is psychologically almost as much hawk as he is human, and Cassie is feeling pretty constant guilt. Even with Ax , even though he's not human and Andalites seem to have less of an adolescence culturally than people....he's a military cadet already even though he's no much older than the rest of them. Even with him, he's dealing with the crushing weight of having to be the Perfect Andalite Representative. So it's kind of sad. quote:My dad was standing there, framed in the doorway of my room. He mouthed the words “I knocked.” And he did a little pantomime of having knocked. Good! Good for Marco.
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# ? Jan 10, 2021 05:49 |
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Marco not being able to talk with Jake about their common problem is a also a good example of the disfunction in men's relationships. Yerks probably are baffled by toxic masculinity. "that's why you have a boat?"
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Animorphs-Book 15:The Escape-Chapter 13quote:“Those were not normal sharks,” Cassie pointed out. “Somehow they were being directed. Controlled. They worked like a pack. Sharks don’t cooperate.” Can Andalites swim? They don't seem to be made for swimming. quote:Cassie started to say something. But instead she just clenched her jaw tightly, the way she does when she disapproves of something. It certainly is. Chapter 14 quote:“A what?” Ax is right, there. Being Visser Three's aide isn't necessarily a good thing. quote:“What do we do?” I asked Jake in a voiceless whisper. His face was just two inches from mine. I will never fail to love Ax being appalled by human recklessness. quote:“Freeze, Andalite!” See, that's what gets your head cut off by Visser Three. "Forget the kids hanging out with the Andalite? quote:<If I go with them peacefully, they may let you all go,> Ax said. Everyone drowned. End of the series, everyone.
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Epicurius posted:Everyone drowned. End of the series, everyone. Ohh, I don't like this new director's cut.
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Epicurius posted:See, that's what gets your head cut off by Visser Three. "Forget the kids hanging out with the Andalite? I never really noticed this before, but we're on book 15 and, even if you account for Visser Three being the worst boss, the kids should really have blown their cover probably ten times over at this point.
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Time Trial posted:Marco not being able to talk with Jake about their common problem is a also a good example of the disfunction in men's relationships. Yerks probably are baffled by toxic masculinity. "that's why you have a boat?" Yeah. It is a very 13 or 14-year-old thought to have, but also something a lot of boys never, ever grow out of.
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# ? Jan 11, 2021 05:23 |
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These books are very anti-shark.
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# ? Jan 11, 2021 05:46 |
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Shwoo posted:These books are very anti-shark. They're just fish
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# ? Jan 11, 2021 10:24 |
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For some reason the ocean world shark heist chapters are the only ones I can remember from this book. The random controller guard must have really stood out to me.
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# ? Jan 11, 2021 12:04 |
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I love how quickly Ax goes from "Oh, now this is is a neat idea!" to "What is wrong with you humans?!"
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Animorphs-Book 15:The Escape-Chapter 15quote:FWOOOOOSH! So, while all my comments on this book have basically been in defense of sharks, I'll point out that there have been 17 recorded attacks on people by hammerheads since we started keeping track in the 16th century. Obviously, people aren't a shark's natural prey, and for most species of shark, we're just too big for them. And I'll point out that even though Marco was afraid of a shark attack, it didn't actually act aggressively at all in this chapter. That being said, I can definitely see Marco being traumatized by the ocean from now on. Chapter 16 quote:The next day there was a huge headline in the newspaper. A terrible accident at the Ocean World Aquarium. Two guards were missing. Also several fish. At least he's getting the chance to do it over. quote:]We had decided we couldn’t go back to the Royal Island facility until the weekend. Sneaking out at night was risky. If one of us got caught and grounded, we’d be out of business for a while. Just for the record, if you have a saltwater fish (like a hammerhead shark, or really any), don't put it in fresh water. It will die. quote:I went to my gym locker and changed into my gym shorts. Then I went back and checked the pool once more. No one. No one in the bleachers. No one in the water. Not a ripple. Such sensitivity. quote:All I had to do was walk away. And all I did was to stare at Woo’s throat. I feel like Marco isn't in the best mental space for this, really.
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# ? Jan 12, 2021 05:42 |
Oh, what's a little PTSD between friends anyway. Also, I just want to point out, Marco willingly dropping onto a waiting shark is insanely brave. Like enormously so.
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# ? Jan 12, 2021 06:16 |
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Epicurius posted:
"And Snowden lay dying in back."
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# ? Jan 12, 2021 15:21 |
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quote:“I know what he meant,” I snapped. “He meant if it came to crunch time, would I destroy my own mother to protect the mission? That’s what he meant.” This is a pretty telling Jake moment; he immediately prioritizes confirming that Marco won't be some sort of liability, over trying to comfort him or avoiding the issue to bring it up later. Jake is basically responsible for constantly monitoring his teammates and ensuring that there aren't any issues that could jeopardize their mission. The other Animorphs are basically "freed" to be more focused on themselves and their individual roles because Jake is essentially personally taking responsibility for the "big picture" (and I imagine his little jaunt into the past and experiencing failure just cemented this perspective, since he knows what real failure feels like). edit: It's also real telling how everyone is always worried about how Jake will react when they do dumb things. Ytlaya fucked around with this message at 22:41 on Jan 12, 2021 |
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quote:“He’s not the one responsible for your mother,” Jake said. “Don’t punish him for the sins of someone else.” Marco and Jake killed Marco's mother and conspired to cover it up!
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# ? Jan 13, 2021 00:26 |