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Lockback
Sep 3, 2006

All days are nights to see till I see thee; and nights bright days when dreams do show me thee.

Mang Tomas posted:

Anyone here tried a wireless PC VR setup but with the router and the PC on different floors?

Yes. Works well but you get more "spikes". Its fine for pokerstars or "Keep Talking" and such. I "solved" it by getting a Wifi6 card on my PC and connecting direct. That works really well as long as I am within 30 feet or so.

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Leal
Oct 2, 2009
Why did I buy a 1k headset just to play skyrim?



I want to stab imperials in the dick

King Vidiot
Feb 17, 2007

You think you can take me at Satan's Hollow? Go 'head on!
Speaking of Skyrim, thanks to the poster who posted the VR object pickup mod. It's just not SkyrimVR if you can't throw sweet rolls at NPCs or knock over a whole table setting by wildly swinging a dinner plate around like an rear end in a top hat.

It was the final piece of the puzzle of making SkyrimVR feel like classic Skyrim.

Beve Stuscemi
Jun 6, 2001




Dammit. I ordered the refurb archer a6. Didn’t even realize it.

Anyone who’s bought refurb electronics from amazon, how has your experience been?

Zaphod42
Sep 13, 2012

If there's anything more important than my ego around, I want it caught and shot now.

Jim Silly-Balls posted:

Dammit. I ordered the refurb archer a6. Didn’t even realize it.

Anyone who’s bought refurb electronics from amazon, how has your experience been?

Packaging may be different but otherwise should be fine. If you have issues just return it and they should ship you another no questions asked.

Jokerpilled Drudge
Jan 27, 2010

by Pragmatica

Jim Silly-Balls posted:

Dammit. I ordered the refurb archer a6. Didn’t even realize it.

Anyone who’s bought refurb electronics from amazon, how has your experience been?

it's good, youre lowering your carbon footprint and the poo poo usually works. Amazon typically offers 90 day warranties on refurb products

Happy Noodle Boy
Jul 3, 2002


I had to file a customer support request to get my free copy of Asgard’s Wrath. They only needed proof of purchase, the quest 2’s S/N and your oculus account. They also responded, replied, and added the game in like 20 minutes. Neat!

Enderzero
Jun 19, 2001

The snowflake button makes it
cold cold cold
Set temperature makes it
hold hold hold

Jokerpilled Drudge posted:

it's good, youre lowering your carbon footprint and the poo poo usually works. Amazon typically offers 90 day warranties on refurb products

Electronics failure rates fall under the umbrella of things governed by what we call the bathtub curve: failure rates are high at first and drop precipitously in the first month or two, like the steep wall of a bathtub’s outline, then bottom out for years like the floor of a bath before slowly rising over time like the shallow wall of a tub. This corresponds to devices that got past QA but have some busted or bad component that goes bad very quickly, devices that have a long successful life, and then those surviving devices that, after years, have some part that wears out or slowly goes bad.

The ones that die right away are where refurb stock comes from: if they can be rescued or easily fixed, they sell it for cheaper (and sometimes the fix doesn’t work/there’s a deeper more insidious issue - this is when refurb devices fail quickly within the shortened warranty window) but if they make it through the first 3 months of the new warranty they’re likely to be fine long term. So at worst you might have to get a replacement refurb and your savings are offset by extra hassle.

Then there’s the products that are just designed so poorly/cut rate components that refurbs are as likely to die at random as they are to survive long term, but that’s not as common as you move away from indistinguishable Shenzen brands towards names you’ve heard of - though sometimes a product is just a lemon design still!

Enderzero fucked around with this message at 04:30 on Jan 13, 2021

TVs Ian
Jun 1, 2000

Such graceful, delicate creatures.

Rolo posted:

I’m getting lucky with stock today. I found the one single elite strap in my city at a local Walmart. Ordered for local pickup, might be able to go get it today.

I'm using a Vive deluxe audio strap on mine (via a 3D printed adapter set).

My only problem is that I've got kind of a big head and wear glasses, so putting it on/taking it off is a bit tricky. I think I may invest in the VR Optician lenses next.

Warbird
May 23, 2012

America's Favorite Dumbass

Mang Tomas posted:

Anyone here tried a wireless PC VR setup but with the router and the PC on different floors?

Yo. Works fine, but I’m wired to the router and it’s a really dumb new one so I’ve got pipes to spare.

Doctor Hospital
Jul 16, 2011

what





Leal posted:

Why did I buy a 1k headset just to play skyrim?



I want to stab imperials in the dick

Skyrim VR on its own is a lazy port with a barely functioning UI and muddy visuals that punches way above its weight for requirements.

Skyrim VR with mods is a drat masterpiece. It's like an entirely new game and it whips rear end so hard. Getting DynDOLOD to work and play nice with everything is not something I would wish on anyone, though.

Rolo
Nov 16, 2005

Hmm, what have we here?
I got wireless working. My new TP-Link doesn’t show until tomorrow but it still worked almost perfectly with my stock modem/router that has 8+ things on it.

Every couple minutes of playing I saw some blanking out of the corner of my eye when moving my head quickly but it’s still 99% perfect and absolutely playable.

drat, wireless PCVR, that is quite a step.

Enderzero
Jun 19, 2001

The snowflake button makes it
cold cold cold
Set temperature makes it
hold hold hold

Rolo posted:

I got wireless working. My new TP-Link doesn’t show until tomorrow but it still worked almost perfectly with my stock modem/router that has 8+ things on it.

Every couple minutes of playing I saw some blanking out of the corner of my eye when moving my head quickly but it’s still 99% perfect and absolutely playable.

drat, wireless PCVR, that is quite a step.

Awesome, congrats. I haven’t even played any roomscale games, or even standing yet since I’m giving casual social stuff like big screen or rec room a second chance. Paintball is really cool.

Zaphod42
Sep 13, 2012

If there's anything more important than my ego around, I want it caught and shot now.
VR sniper progress

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MivLNtsXq84

One thing I've noticed is as a consequence of calculating the aim based on two hand positions, if you hold your grip further apart you get a more stable aim than if you're choking up and holding it near your other hand.

Landing most shots even at long range so smoothing seems to be working. I tried playing with a few different alternative ideas for gun momentum today but nothing really felt any better.

You can see the 1911 lags behind my hand a little bit, I may turn off the smoothing for non-scoped weapons, although its not so bad that its game-ruining.

I know somebody is going to say I need to add tons of recoil.... maybe. I'm still not sure I want to, but I am getting further away from 1:1 control anyways. But right now this gun has infinite ammo; in final it won't and you'll have to manually reload the clips. This is also the autosniper, and I have a .50 cal model, a SVD model, and a couple bolt action rifles, so most of those will require some kind of manual interaction to cycle the bolt between shots. With that, I'm not sure recoil is really needed, you won't be popping off shots in rapid succession like this. Still, it may feel better to artificially kick the gun aim.. I guess I'll toy with that tomorrow.

And you can see I'm already working on a mounted biped sniper rifle, but my first pass at the rotation math has a bug so I've got to spend more time on it.

Rolo
Nov 16, 2005

Hmm, what have we here?
I did some tweaking and restarted both systems and played a full level in Robo Recall at 90hz with 0 issues.

I may cancel that router :v:

WorldIndustries
Dec 21, 2004

Shlapintogan posted:

Skyrim VR on its own is a lazy port with a barely functioning UI and muddy visuals that punches way above its weight for requirements.

Skyrim VR with mods is a drat masterpiece. It's like an entirely new game and it whips rear end so hard. Getting DynDOLOD to work and play nice with everything is not something I would wish on anyone, though.

curious about skyrim, besides this and the free hand movement mod are there any other essentials?

Nalin
Sep 29, 2007

Hair Elf

Booyah- posted:

curious about skyrim, besides this and the free hand movement mod are there any other essentials?

Search the thread for my posts. I linked a good essentials configuration I made.

Twibbit
Mar 7, 2013

Is your refrigerator running?
https://youtu.be/9XM5-CJzrU0

Lightfield videos are now a thing. Wonder how long till we see it used outside of research

Doctor Hospital
Jul 16, 2011

what





Booyah- posted:

curious about skyrim, besides this and the free hand movement mod are there any other essentials?


Nalin posted:

Search the thread for my posts. I linked a good essentials configuration I made.

You mean this one? It's definitely a good base to start with, but my modlist is a bit more extensive.

and by a bit I mean a lot more extensive. The great thing about Skyrim VR is that a lot of the mods that work for Special Edition also work with VR mostly without issue. A few things need fixes here and there, and the Unofficial Skyrim Patch is a pain in the rear end to get because Arthmoor is a gently caress, but that's really more of a topic for the Skyrim Mods thread.

SirViver
Oct 22, 2008

Twibbit posted:

Lightfield videos are now a thing. Wonder how long till we see it used outside of research

As soon as porn producers get their hands on it.

BrainDance
May 8, 2007

Disco all night long!

My problem with Skyrim VR is it runs way shittier than it has any right to on my hardware. I have trouble keeping a stable 90fps on a 2070super/3700x, when I have no trouble getting a solid 90 maxed settings on HL:Alyx, so I dunno what I'm doing wrong. Steam Supersampling just set to the normal 100%, no super sampling in skyrim itself or anywhere in the oculus app, dynamic resolution or whatever it's called in skyrim off, even did poo poo like tweak nvidia control panel settings for it, etc etc.

It's playable, like it's not chugging along or anything, but I wanna mod the gently caress out of it and a lot of the mods I want are just too much of a performance hit. Things like static mesh improvement mod, flora overhaul, realistic water two, it gets noticeably lovely. :/

Dont wanna have to buy a 3090 or something just for pretty vr skyrim.

Pylons
Mar 16, 2009

BrainDance posted:

My problem with Skyrim VR is it runs way shittier than it has any right to on my hardware. I have trouble keeping a stable 90fps on a 2070super/3700x, when I have no trouble getting a solid 90 maxed settings on HL:Alyx, so I dunno what I'm doing wrong. Steam Supersampling just set to the normal 100%, no super sampling in skyrim itself or anywhere in the oculus app, dynamic resolution or whatever it's called in skyrim off, even did poo poo like tweak nvidia control panel settings for it, etc etc.

It's playable, like it's not chugging along or anything, but I wanna mod the gently caress out of it and a lot of the mods I want are just too much of a performance hit. Things like static mesh improvement mod, flora overhaul, realistic water two, it gets noticeably lovely. :/

Dont wanna have to buy a 3090 or something just for pretty vr skyrim.

I started downsampling and that seems to help a lot. I think around 90% I mostly have no frame issues running that big VR mod pack and it still looks pretty good. Grass is also a very big performance hog.

Pylons fucked around with this message at 11:06 on Jan 13, 2021

Turin Turambar
Jun 5, 2011



Twibbit posted:

https://youtu.be/9XM5-CJzrU0

Lightfield videos are now a thing. Wonder how long till we see it used outside of research

TwoMinutePapers is being a bit slowpoke here. There are articles about it from 7 months ago, and you can even try the demo. It's here
https://augmentedperception.github.io/deepviewvideo/

Lockback
Sep 3, 2006

All days are nights to see till I see thee; and nights bright days when dreams do show me thee.

Rolo posted:

I did some tweaking and restarted both systems and played a full level in Robo Recall at 90hz with 0 issues.

I may cancel that router :v:

FYI, FPS won't be the issue if you have problems. It'll be in latency and you'll "feel" it before it starts showing up.

However, a separate AP is not at all needed and more of a solution for people who are otherwise having issues or just want to play with a setup.

Rolo
Nov 16, 2005

Hmm, what have we here?

Lockback posted:

FYI, FPS won't be the issue if you have problems. It'll be in latency and you'll "feel" it before it starts showing up.

However, a separate AP is not at all needed and more of a solution for people who are otherwise having issues or just want to play with a setup.

Oh, well it was only 42 bucks and is already out for delivery so I’ll set it up anyways just in case.

Jokerpilled Drudge
Jan 27, 2010

by Pragmatica

BrainDance posted:

My problem with Skyrim VR is it runs way shittier than it has any right to on my hardware. I have trouble keeping a stable 90fps on a 2070super/3700x, when I have no trouble getting a solid 90 maxed settings on HL:Alyx, so I dunno what I'm doing wrong. Steam Supersampling just set to the normal 100%, no super sampling in skyrim itself or anywhere in the oculus app, dynamic resolution or whatever it's called in skyrim off, even did poo poo like tweak nvidia control panel settings for it, etc etc.

It's playable, like it's not chugging along or anything, but I wanna mod the gently caress out of it and a lot of the mods I want are just too much of a performance hit. Things like static mesh improvement mod, flora overhaul, realistic water two, it gets noticeably lovely. :/

Dont wanna have to buy a 3090 or something just for pretty vr skyrim.

The static mesh mod is a huge performance hit, even on the so-called lite versions

Nocheez
Sep 5, 2000

Can you spare a little cheddar?
Nap Ghost

Zaphod42 posted:

VR sniper progress

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MivLNtsXq84

One thing I've noticed is as a consequence of calculating the aim based on two hand positions, if you hold your grip further apart you get a more stable aim than if you're choking up and holding it near your other hand.

Landing most shots even at long range so smoothing seems to be working. I tried playing with a few different alternative ideas for gun momentum today but nothing really felt any better.

You can see the 1911 lags behind my hand a little bit, I may turn off the smoothing for non-scoped weapons, although its not so bad that its game-ruining.

I know somebody is going to say I need to add tons of recoil.... maybe. I'm still not sure I want to, but I am getting further away from 1:1 control anyways. But right now this gun has infinite ammo; in final it won't and you'll have to manually reload the clips. This is also the autosniper, and I have a .50 cal model, a SVD model, and a couple bolt action rifles, so most of those will require some kind of manual interaction to cycle the bolt between shots. With that, I'm not sure recoil is really needed, you won't be popping off shots in rapid succession like this. Still, it may feel better to artificially kick the gun aim.. I guess I'll toy with that tomorrow.

And you can see I'm already working on a mounted biped sniper rifle, but my first pass at the rotation math has a bug so I've got to spend more time on it.

Dude.... this looks amazing!

Rolo
Nov 16, 2005

Hmm, what have we here?
Anyone play phasmophobia in VR? My friend who lives out in the cut finally found a Quest 2 and we’re gonna jump right into that co-op.

WorldIndustries
Dec 21, 2004

Shlapintogan posted:

You mean this one? It's definitely a good base to start with, but my modlist is a bit more extensive.

and by a bit I mean a lot more extensive. The great thing about Skyrim VR is that a lot of the mods that work for Special Edition also work with VR mostly without issue. A few things need fixes here and there, and the Unofficial Skyrim Patch is a pain in the rear end to get because Arthmoor is a gently caress, but that's really more of a topic for the Skyrim Mods thread.

Do you know if Wabbajack is a good way to go, or that nexus mod manager. I can't tell if they are compatible

e: nevermind, I think I understand the difference

WorldIndustries fucked around with this message at 18:39 on Jan 13, 2021

Zaphod42
Sep 13, 2012

If there's anything more important than my ego around, I want it caught and shot now.

Nocheez posted:

Dude.... this looks amazing!

Thanks! :shobon:

Beve Stuscemi
Jun 6, 2001




Wheeeeeeen can we play it?

Zaphod42
Sep 13, 2012

If there's anything more important than my ego around, I want it caught and shot now.

Jim Silly-Balls posted:

Wheeeeeeen can we play it?

I could plonk out another demo now if you wanted to just test the sniper rifle handling, but there's just some targets to shoot at so it'd get old fast. I need to script the AI for the level so you have more interesting targets. That shouldn't take too long though, a couple days? I don't want to over-promise :cheeky:

I was thinking about seeing if anybody wanted to just testing the handling as-is for feedback... I guess I can do both.

I wanted to get a steam page up by now, but I got cold feet worrying people would write it off as just a simple shooting gallery (which it is) so I started working on vehicle stages, but those are a bit involved, so now I'm focusing on trying to build a sniper level and a turret level to at least show some variety. I'm also rolling up a small business so the steam page may not be up for a month or so, but I can post private builds in the thread or in my discord server in the meantime.

Professor Wayne
Aug 27, 2008

So, Harvey, what became of the giant penny?

They actually let him keep it.

Rolo posted:

Anyone play phasmophobia in VR? My friend who lives out in the cut finally found a Quest 2 and we’re gonna jump right into that co-op.

I play a good bit if you want to add me on Steam. Friend code is 42493163

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!


Rolo posted:

Anyone play phasmophobia in VR? My friend who lives out in the cut finally found a Quest 2 and we’re gonna jump right into that co-op.

yeah its good, though theres a bug that means you sometimes have to relaunch the app after each round to get the voice to work

i think its far more fun in VR, smooth move is a lot better than teleport though

Nalin
Sep 29, 2007

Hair Elf

Booyah- posted:

Do you know if Wabbajack is a good way to go, or that nexus mod manager. I can't tell if they are compatible

e: nevermind, I think I understand the difference

Wabbajack is basically a list of mods to install using Mod Organizer 2. Adding and removing mods from some of the lists can be very hit or miss.

Subjunctive
Sep 12, 2006

✨sparkle and shine✨

My Elite strap arrived today, going to give it a try tonight.

WorldIndustries
Dec 21, 2004

Nalin posted:

Wabbajack is basically a list of mods to install using Mod Organizer 2. Adding and removing mods from some of the lists can be very hit or miss.

I'm going to try it first since its basically a one click install and includes that hand interaction mod already. I've done zero skyrim modding ever so I'll see how this looks/performs

e: it's downloading an eyebrow mod

Subjunctive posted:

My Elite strap arrived today, going to give it a try tonight.

I like mine a lot, and it's better than the default strap on the rift s. Now I'm just worried it could break

WorldIndustries fucked around with this message at 20:24 on Jan 13, 2021

Subjunctive
Sep 12, 2006

✨sparkle and shine✨

Booyah- posted:

I like mine a lot, and it's better than the default strap on the rift s. Now I'm just worried it could break

My understanding, which I'm checking, is that they determined that the risk of breakage wasn't present any more (either because it was an isolated bad batch or because they made a change), so if you got it after the pause in shipping them you should be OK.

Snail Information
May 29, 2010

Snailmancy

Faux Mulder posted:

uhh, so it turns out that EmuVR is literally the greatest thing ever??

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_jgbImrxIA

is there a way to play with just the game or does that tv look bigger in vr

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Doctor_Fruitbat
Jun 2, 2013


I've wanted to replay Time Crisis for ages, and if there's a good way to do it in VR then I am there. Especially the PS1 version, which had an extra story mode.

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