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THE MARINERS ARE SAVED https://twitter.com/MarinersPR/status/1349144163246243846
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seiferguy posted:THE MARINERS ARE SAVED Being a well loved Mariner seems like a good gig because everybody ends up getting some non specific job for life afterwards. Love Kuma though, glad he's getting paid to hang around and do baseball stuff.
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alpha_destroy posted:It Beltre isn't first ballot than the BBWAA has seriously lost the plot. I don't think Beltre ever had any roids rumors did he? He should get in no problem. Rolen should be getting a ton of votes too but it looks like he won't be remembered as dominant enough of a hitter. He is top 10 all times 3b by JAWS. He should absolutely be getting in.
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Beltre's bust should have a copy of Andrus's hand rubbing his head
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coronavirus posted:I don't think Beltre ever had any roids rumors did he? Doug Gottleib has some questions!
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Beltre should be an absolute no brainer unanimous first ballot but we have people voting for ONLY JEFF KENT so yea. It's so dumb.
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TIL Beltre is a 93 WAR player  I knew he was a HOFer but not that much of a no brainer
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Beltre didn't have a crazy peak like George Brett but his HOF resume is pretty close.
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A blog post for a special assignment coach Hot stove league indeed
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The HoF voters need to be entirely flushed out and a completely new group needs to be brought it. They've become a joke - a parody of themselves.
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Beltre also has 3100+ hits and one of like 8 players with 600+ doubles and 450+ dongs.
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Beltre is going to be first-ballot. 93 WAR and >3000 hits gets him all the old guys as well as younger voters.
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He’s an obvious steroid user tho Or do they not care for some people . Wasn’t he on one of those lists or whatever
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Obvious how? Because he hit 48 dingers in his last year as a Dodger?  he wasn't on the Mitchell Report or any other implication of PED users bawfuls fucked around with this message at 17:47 on Jan 13, 2021 |
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Roid rage any time someone touched his head  I still love that the first thing Prince Fielder did at his retirement press conference was touch Beltre's head. Then I get sad because I remember that huge man blubbering like a baby because he couldn't do the thing he loves anymore 
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Beltre's career is even more insane when you consider that his age 26-30 years were in the baseball wasteland of Safeco.
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Beltre was on that 2003 list was he not? (I don't care about that list even if David Ortiz was a goddamn cheater)
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Darude - Adam Sandstorm posted:Beltre was on that 2003 list was he not? That’s what I remember and why I brought it up
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He was on a rumored list of leaked names, which means jack poo poo
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Roids shrink your balls and Beltre played without a cup, so...... (Just LOL if he's not a 90%+ first ballot inductee.)
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Yeah, for that list specifically, because there was so little hard information about it I'm willing to give the players who were listed the benefit of the doubt. Its much more likely then that were popped for taking a tainted supplement or something because the level of scrutiny on that stuff just wasn't there yet.
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Ya the list is who gives a gently caress territory, but saying he was never implicated isn't true either. Its the same list that everyone talks about when mentioning Ortiz was an obvious juicer.
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bawfuls posted:no one gives a poo poo about the 2003 list and the voters will demonstrate that next year with Ortiz they give plenty of shits about it but only when it's convenient for them to try and justify leaving someone off the ballot
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The "massive" contract Beltre parlayed his huge 2004 into was 5/64m, wow times sure have changed
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Intruder posted:The "massive" contract Beltre parlayed his huge 2004 into was 5/64m, wow times sure have changed Time is a circle.
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IcePhoenix posted:they give plenty of shits about it but only when it's convenient for them to try and justify leaving someone off the ballot https://www.thegazette.com/2009/06/30/heres-the-rumored-2003-mlb-steroid-list 1.Nomar Garciaparra 2.Manny Ramirez 3.Johnny Damon 4.Trot Nixon 5.David Ortiz 6.Shea Hillenbrand 7.Derek Lowe 8.Pedro Martinez 9.Brian Roberts 10.Jay Gibbons 11.Melvin Mora 12.Jerry Hairston 13.Jason Giambi 14.Alfonso Soriano 15.Raul Mondesi 16. Aaron Boone 17.Andy Pettitte 18.Jose Contreras 19.Roger Clemens 20.Carlos Delgado 21.Vernon Wells 22.Frank Catalanott 23.Kenny Rogers 24.Magglio Ordonez 25.Sandy Alomar 26.Bartolo Colon 27.Brent Abernathy 28.Jose Lima 29.Milton Bradley 30.Casey Blake 31.Danys Baez 32.Craig Monroe 33.Dmitri Young 34.Alex Sanchez 35.Eric Chavez 36.Miguel Tejada 37.Eric Byrnes 38.Jose Guillen 39.Keith Foulke 40.Ricardo Rincon 41.Bret Boone 42.Mike Cameron 43.Randy Winn 44.Ryan Franklin 45.Freddy Garcia 46.Rafael Soriano 47.Scott Spiezio 48.Troy Glaus 49.Francisco Rodriguez 50.Ben Weber 51.Alex Rodriguez 52.Juan Gonzalez 53.Rafael Palmeiro 54.Carl Everett 55.Javy Lopez 56.Gary Sheffield 57.Mike Hampton 58.Ivan Rodriguez 59.Derrek Lee 60.Bobby Abreu 61.Terry Adams 62.Fernando Tatis 63.Livan Hernandez 64.Hector Almonte 65.Tony Armas 66.Dan Smith 67.Roberto Alomar 68.Cliff Floyd 69.Roger Cedeno 70.Jeromy Burnitz 71.Moises Alou 72.Sammy Sosa 73.Corey Patterson 74.Carlos Zambrano 75.Mark Prior 76.Kerry Wood 77.Matt Clement 78.Antonio Alfonseca 79.Juan Cruz 80.Aramis Ramirez 81.Craig Wilson 82.Kris Benson 83.Richie Sexson 84.Geoff Jenkins 85.Valerio de los Santos 86.Benito Santiago 87.Rich Aurilia 88.Barry Bonds 89.Andres Galarraga 90.Jason Schmidt 91.Felix Rodriguez 92.Jason Christiansen 93.Matt Herges 94.Paul Lo Duca 95.Shawn Green 96.Oliver Perez 97.Adrian Beltre 98.Eric Gagne 99.Guillermo Mota 100.Luis Gonzalez 101.Todd Helton 102.Ryan Klesko 103.Gary Matthews
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Jerry Hairston has been maligned, put him in NOW
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bawfuls posted:28.Jose Lima BAP BAP BAP 
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Carl Everett was kept out purely because of dinosaur related beliefs
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Pedro and alomar made it in so maybe beltre is fine
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No Safe Word posted:BAP BAP BAP Well now I definitely don’t care about that list. LIMA TIME FOREVER
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The only people on that list who have been denied on PED grounds are people who have at least one other PED-related mark against them. Guys like Sheffield & Bonds who were implicated in BALCO, or Manny & Palmeiro who failed actual tests and were suspended for it. No one even talks about Pedro or Pettitte being on that list.
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Kluber had a showcase today and apparently teams came away impressed despite his diminished FB velo. Curious to see what he gets: https://twitter.com/JeffPassan/status/1349398550065655814
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Does Kluber have any HOF case if he is able to get to 40 as a solid contributor? He got started late but his peak was really, really good.
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It's hard to see it happening, he's already 34, having health issues, losing velocity and has 32 career bWAR
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Kluber's peak was good but it wasn't like "ignore typical cumulative benchmarks" good There is only one Hall of Famer on his similarity score through 34 list, and Kluber has a LOT of ground to make up to match Dazzy Vance's resume 
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