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I remember reading this thread at work back in 2019 and being depressed Now I came back to it and lmao
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Admiral Ray posted:gently caress i hope not. i want to see as much of this as i can. I'd go for a front row seat, but that's in the splash zone
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Halser posted:I remember reading this thread at work back in 2019 and being depressed was the change inside you, or inside the thread is the question you will keep wondering until you drown
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sittin in an online conference learnin how california is planning to hit their 2050 transportation emission targets by assuming all freight trucks will run on fuel cells
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Spime Wrangler posted:sittin in an online conference politicians are always going to push climate change deadlines as far as they could (2050 are you kidding me) and they are always going to rely on fantasy technology we've been setting emissions targets for what, 25 years now? and we've not even come close to meeting any of them.
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I was reading about how the big exciting lithium play in Nevada finally has the technology to extract it from the unique configuration it's in (dry clay) and at peak will be able to provide "enough lithium for 400,000 new EVs per year" 400,000/273,600,000 ICE vehicles registered in the US alone comes out to...a mere 684 years! Wahoo!
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Car Hater posted:I was reading about how the big exciting lithium play in Nevada finally has the technology to extract it from the unique configuration it's in (dry clay) and at peak will be able to provide "enough lithium for 400,000 new EVs per year" so i guess we just car pool a little more, simple!
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man I remember when sea level rise was the main thing I understood about Climate Change Bad before I bothered actually looking into what it entailed such innocent times
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Cold on a Cob posted:30 years is lots of time. What, you don't think the residents of Bangkok won't just sell their homes and move? The Thai government should start buying people out now. Spread the cost out. Hell, the US government should start buying people out now. It's already happening here and there. My Floridian bureaucrat buddy, when a flood zone-home loses eligibility for flood insurance, you can't live it anymore. The county can buy it for 'fair market value.' Buyer of last resort. But the thing is that it's the county doing this. On their own. And they're just doing it based on their interpretation of current policy. There's no federal assistance for this. They cannot afford a bunch of homes popping at once.
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Instead we’re going to build seawalls for the rich and blame the poor for not living where the rich do
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more accurately we're just going to post online about how it's bullshit that the 4000 series of video cards is permanently delayed due to one of the factories sliding off a cliff into the ocean after record shattering monsoons much like how we posted about hard drive costs being too drat high in the early 10s
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Jan 13, 2021 18:10
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Don Pigeon posted:politicians are always going to push climate change deadlines as far as they could (2050 are you kidding me) and they are always going to rely on fantasy technology california is in many ways the furthest ahead on climate policy and in some areas their legislative implementation has been so unbelievably bad that it's a nationwide cautionary mantra in one case the state basically wrote itself out of being legally allowed to buy construction materials from any suppliers. nobody did any meaningful evaluations of industry capabilities until after they passed the bill and they had to go back and blow huge holes in the policies because it simply wasn't physically possible to implement. on the other hand it was a huge kick in everyone's rear end to figure their poo poo out and i commend the great state of california for loving up so bad it scared everyone straight
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Spime Wrangler posted:california is in many ways the furthest ahead on climate policy and in some areas their legislative implementation has been so unbelievably bad that it's a nationwide cautionary mantra yeah as good as an attempt as it is, it has some very special loopholes to it. Like there’s a serious chance that it will make some coal mines so much more profitable that the mines will stay open instead of closing because they’re paying them so much to flare methane that wouldn’t be released if they shut down, ooops. Also there’s an attempt to claim that you can burn coal for power but in your spreadsheet allocate that power to transmission line losses so according to your spreadsheet no coal electricity is being used. And that’s not even getting into how they promised now new oil and gas specific regulations in order to get it passed.
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Don Pigeon posted:politicians are always going to push climate change deadlines as far as they could (2050 are you kidding me) and they are always going to rely on fantasy technology we can totally still hit 1.5c by 2050 if we do the thing please ignore that over 2c is already locked in
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Top scientists warn of 'ghastly future of mass extinction' and climate disruptionquote:The planet is facing a “ghastly future of mass extinction, declining health and climate-disruption upheavals” that threaten human survival because of ignorance and inaction, according to an international group of scientists, who warn people still haven’t grasped the urgency of the biodiversity and climate crises... surely this will be the warning to move the inbred and senile ruling class to action
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Halser posted:I remember reading this thread at work back in 2019 and being depressed my periods of disassociation are apparently getting pretty severe, i don't remember registering & posting under this alt account
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Jan 13, 2021 20:34
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The world will be our garden. Just as the Scottish highlands are a human made desert, so will the world be a desert. All life will be engineered by us as we desperately try to keep ourselves alive on the hell world of our creation. Wish I could see how it plays out over the next thousand years, but alas, I’ll die soon after Florida is sunk. At least I should live long enough to see Florida sink.
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Chris James 2 posted:ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh A scream? A fart? A jizz? All applicable here in the climate change thread
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silicone thrills posted:Lmao. In the Seattle area A massive windstorm out of fuckin nowhere rolled in and took out power to 500,000 last night. Transformers blowin up left and right. Same on Vancouver Island this morning. Oddly enough we didn't lose power ourselves. Some of our neighbours are completely dependent on hydro and fire up their portable gensets within 10 minutes of losing power so they can operate their gas furnaces and stay warm. "Let Me Play You the Song of My People" combined with "You Are Not Prepared!". Fifteen years ago I did a bit of research on west coast Vancouver Island wind speeds to see if it was just my imagination that it was getting harder to work out there in the spring. Average wind speeds had stayed the same but extreme events were becoming more common, so no, the change was real and we were actually getting the poo poo kicked out of us more severely. But the calm days were calmer, so there's that. Kind of wondering how the windfarm on the north end of the island is doing. It was installed 6 years ago in an area noted for hurricane-force winds in the winter. It's so far off the beaten track that very few people are going to know about one of their towers coming apart. BC Ferries has been cancelling more sailings due to wind over the last few years. Not sure how much of that is due to more extreme wind events and how much is BC Ferries brass getting tired of seeing a boatload of freshly debarked passengers being interviewed on national TV and pissing and moaning about their brush with death. They actually ran out of barf bags on one of those trips. Again, we are not prepared. Meanwhile, back in the forest anything still alive after the last five years of summer drought is being pushed over by wind and saturated soil around the root plates. At least I have a working chainsaw again. gently caress.  Wakko posted:Top scientists warn of 'ghastly future of mass extinction' and climate disruption I'm goint to go with "No" on this one. Listening to an interview this morning with a Conservative party ("movement") apparatchik bloviating about how he's going to start calling out and severing with the Trumpists in his circle because populism is bad, man. The guy has held senior positions for some of the most extreme neoliberal leaders in Canada. He was there when ex-PM Harper was muzzling government scientists and sending political "minders" to conferences with senior scientists who mentioned the C words in publications. He was part of continuing the petroleum industry's myth and misinformation campaign from the 90s, teaching people to mistrust science. Complete lack of self-awareness. THIS IS THE WORLD YOU BUILT YOU SHITSTAIN! Those red hats swarming the capitol with zap straps and pipe bombs? They're yours. Those guys in MAGA hats protesting in downtown Parksville (where?) in favour of dilBit pipeline expansion in BC? Those are yours.  Am I screaming at the void or a Wendy's? Hard to keep track these days.
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Wakko posted:Top scientists warn of 'ghastly future of mass extinction' and climate disruption The economists can tell you with Nobel prize winning math that world gdp growth will barely falter since 85%+ of global industry and commercial activity are unaffected by climate and the remainder are more productive at temperatures both higher and lower than present day. Indeed, plus or minus six centigrade is optimal for growth given inevitable change. Full speed ahead, for even 4C change is grossly insufficient if more is within our grasp.
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Carbon dioxide is what plants breathe. We're going to get massive lush green forests and liberals say this is bad?
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Carbon Dioxide: It's What Plants Crave
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Perry Mason Jar posted:In terms of going harder... something I realized was that about half a decade ago it was pretty "en vogue" to note that that climate change would impact SE Asia the soonest and most severely. And now I don't see any mention of SE Asia at all but everyone should uh check in on that whole um situation because jesus christ. Dug up some headlines from this week.  150K evacuees minimum across two countries. If you follow climate news from SE Asia you'd, uh, recognize that this is not exactly out of the ordinary flooding anymore.
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One story that made the rounds a while ago is that Indonesia is relocating its capital city because it's sinking underwater.
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*schadenfreude thread-ishly* why don't they just raise the city or lower the water table
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Ok it was singapore who were doing that, and they're stealing indonesian sand to do it
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Like a few other places Indonesia has sand mining and sand mafias/gangs plundering sand and causing all sorts of problems. That's concrete for ya
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Hairy Marionette posted:The world will be our garden. Just as the Scottish highlands are a human made desert, so will the world be a desert. All life will be engineered by us as we desperately try to keep ourselves alive on the hell world of our creation. Wish I could see how it plays out over the next thousand years, but alas, I’ll die soon after Florida is sunk. At least I should live long enough to see Florida sink. Speaking of this, I only recently learned that most of the UK actually used to be dense forest lol. Saw the talk from the dude who's been trying to restore the calcedonian forests.
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silicone thrills posted:Speaking of this, I only recently learned that most of the UK actually used to be dense forest lol. Saw the talk from the dude who's been trying to restore the calcedonian forests. Yeah, the UK is a good example of a post natural world.
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silicone thrills posted:Speaking of this, I only recently learned that most of the UK actually used to be dense forest lol. Saw the talk from the dude who's been trying to restore the calcedonian forests. I breathe now, in royalty, and reshape this land which is mine. I do this for you, Red Legions, for I love you.
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Hairy Marionette posted:Yeah, the UK is a good example of a post natural world. and soon, the planet and soon after that, the planet will be a good example of a post-human world
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love to work all day on useless poo poo for money while a catastrophe that began before I was born continues to unfold and destroy everything
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Minrad posted:more accurately we're just going to post online about how it's bullshit that the 4000 series of video cards is permanently delayed due to one of the factories sliding off a cliff into the ocean after record shattering monsoons the world will end before a PC is created that can play crysis on max settings
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Hairy Marionette posted:Yeah, the UK is a good example of a post natural world. always really liked the visual aids for this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deforestation_in_the_United_States
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All you goons complain about arctic methane destroying the climate? Well I have a company for you: https://www.frostmethane.com/ quote:Frost Methane exists to identify, flare, and monitor concentrated methane seeps in Arctic permafrost and around the world. This approach has the potential to offset 1% of global human emissions, adding to the scientific dataset of methane release in the process. We earn revenue through carbon offset markets, which we re-invest into future deployments, building a global network of self-sustaining devices to combat climate change. That’s right, flaring arctic methane so you can sell the marginal climate benefit to someone else so they can pollute more. Who says technology and markets can’t solve things?
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that doesnt even make sense the problem is its little bubbles being released across areas the size of like fuckin siberian coast line... how did that idea even last 15 seconds edit: nevermind, its white people "from" oakland MightyBigMinus has issued a correction as of 03:41 on Jan 14, 2021 |
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MightyBigMinus posted:that doesnt even make sense the problem is its little bubbles being released across areas the size of like fuckin siberian coast line... how did that idea even last 15 seconds I’m sure there will be enough methane released they can find some close enough together! they have apparently tested it in Alaska but it failed because the tarp listed. Oh yeah, it’s made out of a tarp. And remember even if it does work, the purpose is to generate credits to allow someone else to emit more. Even if all the tech is perfect it can’t actually make things better (since this all has a cost to itself). But the best part is that we’re at the stage where we startups assuming runaway warming as part of their pitch
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