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Skwirl posted:Yeah, obviously the most sensational stuff (cannibal roleplaying over text) is also the most easy to look past, but "there's some there there." I don't think telling a woman "I want to kill you and eat you" is roleplaying.
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Gripweed posted:I don't think telling a woman "I want to kill you and eat you" is roleplaying. I meant if there wasn't everything else that would be an easy thing to dismiss.
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Skwirl posted:I meant if there wasn't everything else that would be an easy thing to dismiss. I understand why people are opposed to "kinkshaming" of all kinds in principle but I still think if someone is aroused by the thought of murdering women that is a red flag.
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Skwirl posted:James Woods being a poo poo head probably bothers me more than any other actor I've found that out about. Same.
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til his name is not "Arnie"
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Magic Hate Ball posted:til his name is not "Arnie" His real name is Armand, Armand Hammer. His grandfather was Armand Hammer, part owner of Arm and Hammer. Am I making this up? I won't say.
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Of course the name thing is true, until this week it was literally the only interesting thing about him.
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Peter Mark Richman, an actor you might recognize by his face and not his name, has passed away. Dude was 93. Ooph.
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Skwirl posted:Of course the name thing is true, until this week it was literally the only interesting thing about him. it's actually even better, in that his grandfather was an independently wealthy tycoon of some type who thought the unintended pun was so funny when he first heard of arm & Hammer that he bought the company outright.
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Babysitter Super Sleuth posted:it's actually even better, in that his grandfather was an independently wealthy tycoon of some type who thought the unintended pun was so funny when he first heard of arm & Hammer that he bought the company outright. Unfortunately he only owned about 5% in it (although he claimed he was looking to buy it outright, but they wouldn't sell). It was enough for him to sit on the board of directors though. And the type of tycoon he was was both an oil tycoon (Occidental Petroleum has a yearly revenue of $21 billion), who also dabbled in doing business with the Soviet Union (how he got started with some of his wealth). Armie's father however was just some lame investment banker, they actually grew up in the Cayman Islands, which is uhhhhhhh a very sketchy sign when you're meeting a white person.
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Baron von Eevl posted:Ugh, I'll never get over the disappointment I felt when Friedkin was on Joe Dante's podcast and the hosts started ripping Trump and saying that he doesn't understand Citizen Kane and Friedkin jumped in to defend Trump. That ruled, "he's the MOST. MALIGNED. PRESIDENT. SINCE LINCOLN" There's an episode of I Was There Too with Eileen Diets who doubled Reagan and was the face of Captain Howdy, which went into all the slapping and shooting and refrigeration, I can't remember what she confirmed or denied The Peccadillo fucked around with this message at 05:56 on Jan 15, 2021 |
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I wonder if that Fred Hampton movie will be as tonally hosed as the Chicago 7 one Edit: Looking at who's involved, probably not. Phew. El Gallinero Gros fucked around with this message at 15:16 on Jan 15, 2021 |
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El Gallinero Gros posted:I wonder if that Fred Hampton movie will be as tonally hosed as the Chicago 7 one Would you mind expanding on the tone of the Chicago 7?
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therattle posted:Would you mind expanding on the tone of the Chicago 7? At one point Abbie Hoffman says something like “we have a revolution every four years, when we vote in a new president.”
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TrixRabbi posted:At one point Abbie Hoffman says something like “we have a revolution every four years, when we vote in a new president.” lmao
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therattle posted:Would you mind expanding on the tone of the Chicago 7? There was very much a vibe to me that Sorkin tried to argue that the prosecutor in the case was a good guy, just misunderstood. Its Sorkin's typical neoliberal call for unity which is normally annoying af, and wildly inappropriate for telling the story of righteous left-wing militant radicals railroaded by a lovely, self serving system designed to avoid any significant changes for the downtrodden and disenfranchised. So you can understand why I'd have concerns. That said, its a Ryan Coogler film so I'm no longer worried. Also I think Lebron James' production co. is involved? He seems pretty vocal about black rights. El Gallinero Gros fucked around with this message at 15:47 on Jan 15, 2021 |
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In real life one of the defendants had a little book where he recorded every death in the Vietnam war. In the movie he only records the American deaths.
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Gripweed posted:I understand why people are opposed to "kinkshaming" of all kinds in principle I don't, specifically because some kinks are irredeemable and crimes to involve others in. Also some people's kinks is cosplaying as nazis and other poo poo like that, gently caress off with that. Your kink is bad and you should feel bad.
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Well at a certain point you go beyond the definition of the word kink and something becomes a real deviance. Like, when a serial killer gets off on mutilating women that's not considered a kink.
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Lurdiak posted:I don't, specifically because some kinks are irredeemable and crimes to involve others in. I understand the impulse to be across the board opposed to kinkshaming. There is history of people being bullied or outright oppressed because of harmless kinks. You don't want somebody going to jail because they ordered a bondage magazine through the mail, and this forum's own history of furry hatred is pretty regrettable. So you just say "No kinkshaming!" as a stand against stuff like that. But I disagree with making it a rigid across the board imperative because, as you say, a lot of kinks are actually really hosed up and gross. It also puts you in a strange situation where activities that you would find repulsive if someone did it just for fun you have to claim to find acceptable if they're doing it for a boner. "You like to go on liveleak and watch ISIS execution videos? That's disgusting! Unless you masturbate to them, then it's fine"
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Rape jokes: never acceptable. Rape porn: don't kinkshame!
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Discussing your love of violent porn in open conversation is in the same category of inappropriate as making rape jokes, sure - it's trivialising and mocking something that's unpleasantly commonplace in society, and easily ties in to a wider culture of sexism. But that's not the desire itself, which is generally accepted to be complicated and hard to universally unpick - or to take it another way, should rape survivors be able to make jokes about their experience? These don't seem like the best issues to try and conclusively resolve in the movie chat thread, in any event. No-one is trivialising anything here and hopefully no-one will.
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El Gallinero Gros posted:I wonder if that Fred Hampton movie will be as tonally hosed as the Chicago 7 one the trailer i saw looked like they totally decommunized him
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Really enjoyed Synchronic. Moorhead and Benson will have always have my attention.
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Lil Mama Im Sorry posted:the trailer i saw looked like they totally decommunized him The one I saw focused on the traitor
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[PRESS RELEASE] We in the cannibal community strongly oppose Hammer's behavior. Emotional abuse has no place in the recreational consumption of human flesh.
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(marketing arm of The Cannibal Society workshopping a response to the allegations against Hammer) Hmm... "Friends, Romans, countrymen, lend us your ears." poo poo, wait, no
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In case anyone was wondering, Outside The Wire is 50% normal-rear end DTV and 50% super weird because it occasionally turn anti-narrative and there's basically no reason to have robots in it? Why are there robots??? Mackie plays the robot as a dude who's vaguely interested in trolley problems.
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:In case anyone was wondering, Outside The Wire is 50% normal-rear end DTV and 50% super weird because it occasionally turn anti-narrative and there's basically no reason to have robots in it?
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I just watched Innerspace for the first time in probably 15 years.
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Somebody uploaded the original pilot to Mulholland Drive to YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zD7c2OH18tk
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Flying Zamboni posted:Somebody uploaded the original pilot to Mulholland Drive to YouTube: Holy poo poo.
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Flying Zamboni posted:Somebody uploaded the original pilot to Mulholland Drive to YouTube: Wowie. I can't tell because the quality is so so-so and I don't have a copy of the movie to compare: is this the footage that eventually got edited to make the movie, or did he just start again from scratch?
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Carly Gay Dead Son posted:Wowie. I can't tell because the quality is so so-so and I don't have a copy of the movie to compare: is this the footage that eventually got edited to make the movie, or did he just start again from scratch? I think it's mostly the same footage but I haven't seen the film in awhile so it's tough to directly compare. I've also only had the chance to skim through it a bit, stopping at the stuff that's more clearly different than the release film. It seems like the biggest additions from the pilot was the Winkie's scene and everything that happens after Laura Harring changes her hair. One of the longer deleted scenes features Robert Forester's character and almost feels like one of his scenes from The Return. This did remind me of how much I love the bit where the guy spits out the espresso. It's just such a small detail that makes him seem like a real psycho. Lynch is so good at those kinds of moments.
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:Why are there robots??? Robots are cool.
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:In case anyone was wondering, Outside The Wire is 50% normal-rear end DTV and 50% super weird because it occasionally turn anti-narrative and there's basically no reason to have robots in it? I haven't seen the movie, but there was some discourse a while ago about how the AI for self driving cars would need to be programmed to solve trolley problems in case the car ever needed to decide whether to crash into a bus full of nuns or a carriage full of kittens.
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pospysyl posted:I haven't seen the movie, but there was some discourse a while ago about how the AI for self driving cars would need to be programmed to solve trolley problems in case the car ever needed to decide whether to crash into a bus full of nuns or a carriage full of kittens. You just let the algorithm make impossible ethical choices, thus absolving the programmer of any moral accountability. See also healthcare execs working from home getting COVID vaccines before ER docs and nurses.
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CPL593H posted:Robots are cool. You’d think that, but the robots in Wire are the lamest to come out of the Bigdog/Petman trend since it was established by Blomkamp and Liebesman. Turns out that having OK robot design doesn’t compensate for every other possible shortcoming. It’s just annoying that a mash-up of Universal Soldier: Regeneration, Ex Machina, and Elysium/Chappie is this dull.
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:You’d think that, but the robots in Wire are the lamest to come out of the Bigdog/Petman trend since it was established by Blomkamp and Liebesman. I think MGS IV started the leggy robots.
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porfiria posted:I think MGS IV started the leggy robots. The Gekko were fairly unique  The only movie I can remember ripping them off was Robocop, which just did the Raiden vs Gekko fight but with Robocop and ED-109 and a gun instead of a sword
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