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It's been a while (at least fifteen years) since I last saw the 1998 film Pleasantville starring Reese Witherspoon and Tobey Maguire. From what I remember, Tobey and Reese are brother and sister. Reese is a rebel who ruins everything while Tobey is a good boy who loves the fictional 1950's TV show Pleasantville, a Leave it to Beaver style sitcom set in the titular idyllic town. Tobey and Reese get into a fight over the TV remote on the eve of the Pleasantville marathon. The remote breaks and it now there's no way to turn on the TV! Luckily along comes Don Knotts, a TV repairman who gives Tobey a new remote that is very strange looking. Reese and Tobey fight over this remote, too and are zapped into the Pleasantville TV show where everything is black and white and everyone is... well... pleasant. But Reese's rebellious attitude soon sends a wave of discontent through the idyllic town. Everyplace touched by her rebelliousness goes from black and white to color and by the end of the film the entire town is in color! Everyone learns a lessons about being yourself and it's okay not to be perfect. So anyway I have some questions. At the end of the film, Pleasantville, once a spacetime loop no-one could ever leave, is now connected to a larger world. We see a bus with a label for a city in the real world. Is Pleasantville now connected to the real world, or has the pocket dimension that once held Pleasantville just expanded? Reese Witherspoon ops to stay in Pleasantville because she's been accepted into college and she has a future there, while Tobey returns home by way of the magic remote. How will Tobey explain the disappearance of his sister to his parents? If Reese can get into college in the Pleasantverse why can't she get into college in the real world? Will her Pleasantville degree be valid in the real world? What happened to the original brother and sister whose identities Toby and Reese assumed upon entering Pleasantville? Were those people destroyed? Can people still watch Pleasantville on TV? Are all the episodes in color now? If not, then are there an infinite number of other Pleasantvilles still trapped in black and white? And what about Don Knotts? Midway through the movie, Knotts confronts Tobey for "ruining the show" and orders him to put it back the way it was. Yet, at the end of the film when the town has become realistic, he smiles and nods knowingly as if everything turned out as planned. Was he just faking to test the kids' resolve earlier? And who is he? Some mysterious guardian angel sent to save the people of Pleasantville trapped in the pocket dimension? Did he create Pleasantville? Or is he a deceiver, a devil figure whose goal was to destroy somebody's private Heaven? I hope we get to see a Pleasantville sequel or an expanded universe novel that addresses these burning questions that have haunted me these past two decades.
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# ? Jan 15, 2021 02:57 |
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Pleasantville is the story of Paradise Lost. 2 bratty 90s kids come and gently caress up a good thing.
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# ? Jan 15, 2021 03:36 |
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the bus was a metaphor for tobey's newfound courage
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# ? Jan 15, 2021 03:42 |
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what sort of loving loser is obsessed with leave it to beaver as a teenager in the 90's?
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# ? Jan 15, 2021 03:45 |
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Applewhite posted:It's been a while (at least fifteen years) since I last saw the 1998 film Pleasantville starring Reese Witherspoon and Tobey Maguire. From what I remember, Tobey and Reese are brother and sister. Reese is a rebel who ruins everything while Tobey is a good boy who loves the fictional 1950's TV show Pleasantville, a Leave it to Beaver style sitcom set in the titular idyllic town. - The dimension neither expanded, nor is it suddenly connected to the "real world." Their world is no more or less "real" than the present-day world Tobey+Reese came from. Labeling one as lesser/greater than the other is reductive. Literally all that happened is the people decided to build a road, because now they want to broaden themselves. I'm sure there are other towns out there that have always existed. Not knowing about something doesn't magically mean it never existed. That's part of the old Pleasantville head-in-the-sand philosophy. - He'll just say she ran away. They weren't good parents, and it's not like their searching will yield anything? - Yeah they were destroyed. Really no other way to look at it. RIP - The show is exactly the same on TV. Like all recorded media, it's a record of what was. What, do you think like the data of every copy of every episode on every computer just changes simultaneously all over the universe? - Don got bored watching the pre-recorded TV show and has been calling his alternate dimension the "show" for some time. To him, this dimension IS the show (it's not. The entire movie is about proving these people are their own people with their own motivations). I think he got a little scared his secret dimension would go up in smoke because the kids were changing things too quickly, but he saw that it worked out in the end. Ultimately, his approval at the end signifies to us that he values the chaotic beauty of the new independent reality over the controlled, yet stifling harmony represented in the traditional show. Who he is is up to pure speculation. We are given no information. He strikes me more of a gatekeeper than anything. A passive observer. It's obvious he had little power over the situation when he confronted Tobey. My guess is he stumbled upon access to this dimension long ago, or it was given to him by the true creator. - Dear god please no sequel. It said everything it had to say!
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gimme the GOD drat candy posted:what sort of loving loser is obsessed with leave it to beaver as a teenager in the 90's? Toby McGuire
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# ? Jan 15, 2021 04:20 |
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Also Don Knott's was obviously a capricious but only mildly malicious higher dimensional being ala the likes of Mister Mxyzptlk, just as he is in real life.
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how many times did the mom jack off in a row after learning about it from her daughter do you think sorry OP i don't remember anything else about the movie aside from what you already mentioned
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# ? Jan 15, 2021 04:25 |
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It was all a dream Tobey was having. Which is a little weird bc he dreamt about his TV mom masturbating in the tub.
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# ? Jan 15, 2021 04:52 |
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sure okay posted:- The dimension neither expanded, nor is it suddenly connected to the "real world." Their world is no more or less "real" than the present-day world Tobey+Reese came from. Labeling one as lesser/greater than the other is reductive. Literally all that happened is the people decided to build a road, because now they want to broaden themselves. I'm sure there are other towns out there that have always existed. Not knowing about something doesn't magically mean it never existed. That's part of the old Pleasantville head-in-the-sand philosophy. Whence Pleasantville's food and other consumer goods if they were never connected to the rest of their world? Did the rest of the Pleasantverse know of the existence of Pleasantville and just never contacted them? Was the rest of the universe also in black and white until Tobey and Reese arrived? I'm somewhat dubious that Pleasantville managed to maintain its isolation so long if the world was always so big.
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# ? Jan 15, 2021 04:58 |
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Pawn 17 posted:It was all a dream Tobey was having. Which is a little weird bc he dreamt about his TV mom masturbating in the tub. It was a psychotic break caused by the accidental murder of his sister during the fight over the remote.
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# ? Jan 15, 2021 05:07 |
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i too have busted a nut so hard that it turned me technicolor
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# ? Jan 15, 2021 05:07 |
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pleasantville became cumtown
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# ? Jan 15, 2021 06:20 |
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you guys seen spidermin 2? it's so good
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# ? Jan 15, 2021 07:56 |
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I've never seen this film, but as a child I assumed it was a horror film.
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# ? Jan 15, 2021 07:59 |
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Pleasantville answers the age old question "What if a movie was black and white?"
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# ? Jan 15, 2021 08:22 |
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Pleasantville is Silent Hill
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# ? Jan 15, 2021 08:25 |
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do women get their period in pleasantville
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# ? Jan 15, 2021 09:16 |
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I haven’t seen it in about 20 years but I remember liking Pleasantville. I wonder if it has aged well.
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# ? Jan 15, 2021 09:28 |
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I saw Pleasantville like four times when it came out, not because I like a lot but because the people I was with wanted to see it independently of each other. OP is correct, it raises many questions. Also who does the Mom end up with, her husband or the soda jerk guy? Both?
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# ? Jan 15, 2021 14:37 |
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I've never seen it and don't want to, ever.
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# ? Jan 15, 2021 14:49 |
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Nefarious 2.0 posted:do women get their period in pleasantville They do now and it’s in vivid technicolor
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# ? Jan 15, 2021 14:51 |
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If a tree is on fire it means someone’s mom is masturbating
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# ? Jan 15, 2021 15:15 |
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Stick Figure Mafia posted:If a tree is on fire it means someone’s mom is masturbating the porn industry is headquartered in California...
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# ? Jan 15, 2021 15:25 |
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Pick posted:I've never seen this film, but as a child I assumed it was a horror film. poo poo that might have been cool.
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# ? Jan 15, 2021 15:30 |
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no one ever went to the bathroom in old black and white shows which means there's no toilets in pleasantville so what happens when tomy maguire has to push a stinky?
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# ? Jan 15, 2021 15:44 |
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Nefarious 2.0 posted:no one ever went to the bathroom in old black and white shows which means there's no toilets in pleasantville so what happens when tomy maguire has to push a stinky? He poops on the floor in one of the closets.
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# ? Jan 15, 2021 16:05 |
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Forget it jake. It’s pleasantville
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Nefarious 2.0 posted:no one ever went to the bathroom in old black and white shows which means there's no toilets in pleasantville so what happens when tomy maguire has to push a stinky? this is how brown was invented
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# ? Jan 15, 2021 22:59 |
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i always wondered a) why didnt the doctor seem to give a gently caress he was examining the kid with a pink mouth like "oh it's probably fine" if my tongue suddenly turned greyscale i certainly would be a great deal more upset about it also why is there even a doctor? do people in pleasantville get sick? do people in pleasantville die?? did tobey and reese bring the concept of sickness and death unto pleasantville??? and b) i can't remember what else i was wondering im stuck on tobey and reese being 2 out of 4 horsemen of the apocalypse for this town
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# ? Jan 15, 2021 23:09 |
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Applewhite posted:poo poo that might have been cool. I recently rewatched Stay Tuned, which is like the horror comedy version of it. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0SfBkWrjLLk
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# ? Jan 15, 2021 23:10 |
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Pleasantville, more like Shitville, amiright. Edit: Actually I haven't seen it so don't mind my poo poo review. And since Applewhite bothered to make a post about it, I bet there's some great ASSES in it. 4 stars. BigBadSteve fucked around with this message at 23:55 on Jan 15, 2021 |
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Nefarious 2.0 posted:no one ever went to the bathroom in old black and white shows which means there's no toilets in pleasantville so what happens when tomy maguire has to push a stinky? They show a bathroom with nothing in it early in the movie, and Toby just shrugs upon seeing it. Maybe people don't actually have to use the bathroom in Pleasantville? Was there a toilet in the bathroom when Joan Allen was jilling in the bathtub?
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# ? Jan 15, 2021 23:52 |
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Nefarious 2.0 posted:so good i thought that was 3
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# ? Jan 16, 2021 00:17 |
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Peasantville
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# ? Jan 16, 2021 00:29 |
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Church Youth Groups used this move back in the day to teach morals and peer pressure. See the Jezebel, with her loose ways, comes in showing people there's more to life and really screwing up how "happy" everyone was.
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# ? Jan 16, 2021 00:52 |
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Wait doesn't this have something to do with superman
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# ? Jan 16, 2021 01:10 |
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I like it when Delphine from Skyrim gets off in her bathtub
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# ? Jan 16, 2021 01:15 |
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Just imagining a daughter teaching her mom to masturbate is so absurd. I'm surprised that hasn't become a popular scenario in all the recent incest porn.
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# ? Jan 16, 2021 01:25 |
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Imagine being so good at sex that your vag transforms the fundamental reality of anyone who touches it, creates previously nonexistent colors and emotions, and eventually collapses two dimensions into one another.
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