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esperterra
Mar 24, 2010

SHINee's back




Everything Oh My Girl did on Queendom was just pure perfection. It was so nice seeing AOA do their thing and slay it, too-- especially now that it's the last thing we'll have seen of them, at this point. That fuckin' tango version of Miniskirt not having an official release like most of the Queendom tracks is a drat crime.

Waiting impatiently for Kingdom to happen so hopefully Queendom comes back around again, because I have next to no interest in watching Kingdom at all lol

(G)I-DLE's cover of Fire was one of the worst performances on the show though, for me-- which was disappointing considering how great their stages on the show were otherwise. But at least it wasn't as bad as Lovelyz's cover of Sixth Sense.

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teagone
Jun 10, 2003

That was pretty intense, huh?

Yeah, after looking up the scores for the competition, I saw that G-Idle's cover of Fire ranked lowest during that round, lol RIP. It's deffo the weakest of their Queendom performances, but I enjoyed how energetic it felt—and the little hair flip Yuqi did :3:

esperterra
Mar 24, 2010

SHINee's back




It's just such a hard song to cover-- one of the most, if not still THE most, iconic debut tracks of all time. And to try and compete with the energy that even a brand new 2NE1 had at the time? Whew lad. I would have loved to see them take a stab at one of 2NE1's slower tracks instead, tbh.

It's kind of the exact same issue Lovelyz had: how do you cover Sixth Sense? I think the only group there who could have pulled it off vocally is MAMAMOO. And even then you're trying to capture the energy of BEG, which even the arrangement didn't have the bombast of the original song, let alone the performance from the girls. Some songs are just untouchable lol.

e: actually Oh My Girl probably could have maybe slayed Sixth Sense tbh. I forgot this exists lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHqQZNMrIzY

esperterra fucked around with this message at 06:02 on Jan 13, 2021

teagone
Jun 10, 2003

That was pretty intense, huh?

esperterra posted:

It's just such a hard song to cover-- one of the most, if not still THE most, iconic debut tracks of all time. And to try and compete with the energy that even a brand new 2NE1 had at the time? Whew lad. I would have loved to see them take a stab at one of 2NE1's slower tracks instead, tbh.

Yeah, my perspective of G-Idle covering Fire comes from someone who has zero nostalgia towards 2NE1, having never listened to any of their music (as my interest in the k-pop genre around the time was nonexistent), so I don't carry that baggage with me. But after informing myself with context, I also understand how the cover could never live up to the original. I do appreciate how ambitious G-Idle were to try it at least! Haha.

esperterra
Mar 24, 2010

SHINee's back




It was definitely a ballsy move, especially for a rookie group!

esperterra
Mar 24, 2010

SHINee's back




goddamnit I'm going to end up rewatching Queendom again at this rate lol

Bottom Liner
Feb 15, 2006


a specific vein of lasagna
Queendom took me from just watching it because I love Idle to being a huge Mamamoo fan and being happy they won in the end. It also made Wheein probably my favorite performer in all of Kpop. Idle raised the bar from week one on everyone though and made all the other groups up their game, and Lion/Put it Straight are the most memorable stages looking back, but it was great to see Mamamoo get the much deserved respect from the win.

Idle kinda blew up from the start with Latata and Queendom definitely vaulted them up to a top group, making their next comeback sell like 3x more, but Mamamoo had been steady grinding for so long and are so crazy talented I'm glad they won in the end. I don't follow the shows or voting systems at all though, I'm just speaking purely from how I felt about the outcome.

esperterra
Mar 24, 2010

SHINee's back




MAMAMOO already had insane respect and huge GP appeal by the time Queendom came around. They could have gone up on stage and sneezed every week and still won, probably.

I would have liked to see Oh My Girl win, but MAMAMOO winning was well deserved and tbh the expected outcome from the day they were cast lol

Bottom Liner
Feb 15, 2006


a specific vein of lasagna
Oh yeah it was not the most balanced in terms of the levels of popularity and success but I think it ended up being a tighter comp than expected. It also kinda hit at the perfect time for MMM after a few slow years while Twice and BP were taking over.

esperterra
Mar 24, 2010

SHINee's back




Man, I was already pretty excited for the new GG coming next month, TRI.BE, since they're under Shinsadong Tiger's new group and it seems like EXID LE will also be involved in music production. But it also turns out their leader is SNSD Yuri's cousin, and I live for nonsense like that so I'm even more hyped up than I was already!

esperterra
Mar 24, 2010

SHINee's back




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7C3RyiZfYs

e: oh god i'm so blessed upon this day

esperterra fucked around with this message at 11:00 on Jan 13, 2021

Bottom Liner
Feb 15, 2006


a specific vein of lasagna
Big retro power pop vibes and it rules. Kinda like Loona’s Star with more attitude.

Bottom Liner
Feb 15, 2006


a specific vein of lasagna


So Dreamcatcher unveiled their new lightstaff and robe loving :lol: they're great. Imagine a full concert hall looking like a drat cult ritual. Love this crazy group.


Also the girl group rock band Rolling Quartz finally released their debut single and I kinda love it for how raw and 90s Offspring it sounds. The girl on drums rips too

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pg51wRHMRek

Bottom Liner fucked around with this message at 19:31 on Jan 13, 2021

Vastakaiun
Apr 16, 2008

Bottom Liner posted:



So Dreamcatcher unveiled their new lightstaff and robe loving :lol: they're great. Imagine a full concert hall looking like a drat cult ritual. Love this crazy group.

This owns. I'm not that into their music but as a former metalhead I can't help but love them.

The REAL Goobusters
Apr 25, 2008
someone get them into Sunn O)))

esperterra
Mar 24, 2010

SHINee's back




I would like to see battle waged between Loona fans and Dreamcatcher fans in their capes/robes and oversized lightsticks

MIDWIFE CRISIS
Nov 5, 2008

Ta gueule, laisse-moi finir.
Pointing out that LOONA and Dreamcatcher seem to represent polar opposite concepts (and are both cults)
https://twitter.com/Plumage_V/status/1349346974592421891?s=19

sliami
Apr 28, 2018



I want those stick

Everyday Goast
Nov 27, 2011

spoopy

kpop cape...that rules

Thom and the Heads
Oct 27, 2010

Farscape is actually pretty cool.
capeop

Psycho Mantits
Oct 6, 2009
New (G)I-DLE is gooooooood. Very much want a full-length from them, though I'm guessing that's somewhat rare in k-pop?

esperterra
Mar 24, 2010

SHINee's back




Psycho Mantits posted:

New (G)I-DLE is gooooooood. Very much want a full-length from them, though I'm guessing that's somewhat rare in k-pop?

Yeah, minis have always been common but seem moreso these days. Depends on the company and group sometimes, too.

The REAL Goobusters
Apr 25, 2008
Since most groups are constantly putting out material every single year, it feels like a full album just isn't even in the cards or on a schedule. Big groups like Twice do get them but also, after a bunch of eps and minis

Bottom Liner
Feb 15, 2006


a specific vein of lasagna
That's one of the things I expect western labels to adapt because it's a lot cheaper to produce a mini/ep and you can have new material to market every year (or even faster) instead of every few years. Just dumping all the full album cost into promo and a dope video for a big single and throwing in a few b sides seems like a smarter move given the way music is consumed these days.

The idea of an album as a whole is probably going to fade out because of streaming and the ease of access to production these days. Before you'd try to record as much as you could when you got into a studio to make the most of that investment, but now that's much more accessible to artists at every level so they can make music on a more open schedule. I have most of the exact software and samples these producers are using on my macbook, the only real difference in the studios they record and my office is the microphones and sound isolation, and I could get 95% of the way there with a small investment and transforming a closet.

Bottom Liner fucked around with this message at 21:43 on Jan 14, 2021

esperterra
Mar 24, 2010

SHINee's back




Comebacks seem to happen far more often per year now than they used to, as well, which probably has a lot to do with there being so much more competition for groups than there was in the 2nd or even early 3rd gen. It used to be maybe 1-2 comebacks per year was the norm, but from what I can tell, these days you only really see comebacks being spaced out like that with more senior groups, or companies like YG who have always had relatively few releases per year compared to other companies.

Probably way easier to pump out a bunch of mini albums when you're doing a new comeback every few months, than maybe one mini and a studio album that may have more than one single on it.

e: i imagine having fans buy several mini albums in a year rather than one studio album is way more lucrative, too

esperterra fucked around with this message at 23:11 on Jan 14, 2021

Barry Shitpeas
Dec 17, 2003

there is no need
to be upset

Winner POTM July 2013
The thing is the Kpop industry is still tied to physical sales and the whole lootbox model they have going, whereas Western pop isn't any more. So while Western artists seem to drop non-album singles more often recently, for the most part Kpop artists will still scrape together some B-sides for a physical release.

The flip side of that is that Kpop "full albums" are usually just singles with more B-sides because they don't generally promote more than one single from an album

MIDWIFE CRISIS
Nov 5, 2008

Ta gueule, laisse-moi finir.
The upcoming Yunho mv has some insane visuals, it looks like a gangster film :stare:





https://twitter.com/TVXQ/status/1350004800696377344?s=19

esperterra
Mar 24, 2010

SHINee's back




The end of last year and beginning of this one has been like an overly long wet dream for a 1st/2nd gen fogey like myself. And the hits just keep comin'.

SuJu's 10th album is around the corner and it looks so loving good so far. Burn the Floor is fuckin' great.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kEo14-UOM80

Oh, and loving Kangta just dropped a bop on SM Station, official release for the song he did at the online SMTown concert:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptWAKTbmAws

Bottom Liner
Feb 15, 2006


a specific vein of lasagna
This live band rock version of Dumdi Dumdi (with Latata intro) slaps and they're really killing the live vocals lately. Soyeon wasn't kidding when she said all of their singing had improved a lot.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2IwBbCEo5pQ

Another live performance of Hwaa too

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3CywsEGYlc

These live shows are getting weirder with the cameras though, they obviously do two takes with a close up camera in their face that's really jarring when it immediately cuts to a wide angle and there's no camera on stage lol.

Bottom Liner fucked around with this message at 19:54 on Jan 15, 2021

The REAL Goobusters
Apr 25, 2008

Bottom Liner posted:

This live band rock version of Dumdi Dumdi (with Latata intro) slaps and they're really killing the live vocals lately. Soyeon wasn't kidding when she said all of their singing had improved a lot.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2IwBbCEo5pQ

Another live performance of Hwaa too

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3CywsEGYlc

These live shows are getting weirder with the cameras though, they obviously do two takes with a close up camera in their face that's really jarring when it immediately cuts to a wide angle and there's no camera on stage lol.

I always appreciate when they play live arranged versions of tracks on this show.

teagone
Jun 10, 2003

That was pretty intense, huh?

Still can't get over short hair Yuqi :allears:

I've been watching her various variety show episodes as of late and she's just the greatest. She has such insane energy, lol.

Bottom Liner
Feb 15, 2006


a specific vein of lasagna

teagone posted:

She has such insane energy, lol.

teagone
Jun 10, 2003

That was pretty intense, huh?


Lmao. All those profiles were fun to read, but once I got to Yuqi's I was like "it all makes sense!" and LOL'd irl.

Everyday Goast
Nov 27, 2011

spoopy

esperterra posted:

The end of last year and beginning of this one has been like an overly long wet dream for a 1st/2nd gen fogey like myself. And the hits just keep comin'.

SuJu's 10th album is around the corner and it looks so loving good so far. Burn the Floor is fuckin' great.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kEo14-UOM80

Oh, and loving Kangta just dropped a bop on SM Station, official release for the song he did at the online SMTown concert:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptWAKTbmAws

https://twitter.com/T4ECYEON/status/1349814260835246080

MIDWIFE CRISIS
Nov 5, 2008

Ta gueule, laisse-moi finir.
What's the one in the top right? The one that looks like a heart.

esperterra
Mar 24, 2010

SHINee's back




e: wow you said right, that's 2PM

esperterra fucked around with this message at 19:56 on Jan 16, 2021

MIDWIFE CRISIS
Nov 5, 2008

Ta gueule, laisse-moi finir.
I've never listened to 2PM that much, perhaps time to start :thunk:

esperterra
Mar 24, 2010

SHINee's back




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCsLikmxhV0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-gJb_kbEBo

Ugh Minzy's voice just keeps getting better. I miss 2NE1 so drat much. Between these, CL's album soon and Bom announcing a comeback recently at least I'm staying fed I guess lol

e: heckin yt mobile fooling me into thinking Rosario was out already. oh well at least the link will be in the thread when it drops lol

esperterra fucked around with this message at 04:55 on Jan 18, 2021

Bottom Liner
Feb 15, 2006


a specific vein of lasagna
Is there any chance (legally speaking) they can have a reunion performance? I literally just watched the Goodbye mv again before I checked this thread lol.

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TV Zombie
Sep 6, 2011

Burying all the trauma from past nights
Burying my anger in the past

Maybe but not under the name of 2ne1 since YG might own that.

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