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CPL593H
Oct 28, 2009

I know what you did last summer, and frankly I am displeased.

LesterGroans posted:

I still enjoy Johnny Cash's Thunderball theme. I don't know if it's good, but I enjoy the hell out of it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-AN5mJF13A

I like the song but it definitely doesn't work as a Bond theme.

Escobarbarian posted:

The Peter Serafinowicz Show! It’s from 2007 and there’s six episodes and a Christmas special and it’s amazing

It's too bad that poo poo like this isn't more readily available in America.

Grendels Dad posted:

Also, The Tick.

Patrick Warburton or GTFO.

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caligulamprey
Jan 23, 2007

It never stops.

New Tick ruled. Gone too soon.

Baron von Eevl
Jan 24, 2005

WHITE NOISE
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CPL593H posted:

I like the song but it definitely doesn't work as a Bond theme.

I agree, but I wonder how much of that is thinking about it from a modern perspective, with another 20-some Bond movies in the interim. Like Thunderball was only the fourth movie, how entrenched were the Bond Theme cliches at that point? For comparison, I really don't think Live and Let Die works as a Bond theme either despite the main orchestral theme being pretty Bond-y.

TrixRabbi
Aug 20, 2010

Time for a little robot chauvinism!

Baron von Eevl posted:

I agree, but I wonder how much of that is thinking about it from a modern perspective, with another 20-some Bond movies in the interim. Like Thunderball was only the fourth movie, how entrenched were the Bond Theme cliches at that point? For comparison, I really don't think Live and Let Die works as a Bond theme either despite the main orchestral theme being pretty Bond-y.

Not that entrenched at all. Dr. No begins with the Bond theme song and transitions to some calypso music. From Russia with Love's score is very Bond-esque but does not have a song with lyrics over the opening credits. Goldfinger is really when it gets established that every movie has a pop musician do a theme song, so it could easily have gone off in a different direction.

Though to be fair, as much as Cash's song rules it's less that it doesn't fit the Bond vibe as much as does it even fit Thunderball? Thunderball has "firey breath" but the whole schtick is an underwater theme?

Basebf555
Feb 29, 2008

The greatest sensual pleasure there is is to know the desires of another!

Fun Shoe
I still don't get what it means to "strike, like Thunderball". Someone tried to explain it to me in another thread but I still don't get it.

Uncle Boogeyman
Jul 22, 2007

I hate Tom Jones but his Thunderball theme kinda whips rear end

SuperMechagodzilla
Jun 9, 2007

NEWT REBORN

Basebf555 posted:

I still don't get what it means to "strike, like Thunderball". Someone tried to explain it to me in another thread but I still don't get it.

‘Cause it’s one, two, three strikes “yer out!” at the ol’ thunderball game.

Babysitter Super Sleuth
Apr 26, 2012

my posts are as bad the Current Releases review of Gone Girl

I’m pretty sure I remember hearing that the thunderball theme was written in, like, an afternoon of panicked work because somebody hosed up at some point and didn’t actually hire anyone to do a theme until extremely late, so the completely nonsensical lyrics make sense from a “gently caress it, as long as it rhymes and fits the meter” sense

SuperMechagodzilla
Jun 9, 2007

NEWT REBORN
"There’s a thunderstorm coming. It's the only time we can play [vampire baseball, aka thunderball]. You’ll see why.”
-Edward Cullen, Twilight (2008, d.p. Elliot Davis)

Gripweed
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CPL593H
Oct 28, 2009

I know what you did last summer, and frankly I am displeased.

caligulamprey posted:

New Tick ruled. Gone too soon.

I thought it sucked. The Tick was barely a character in it because they decided to focus the show on a melodrama centered around a mediocre white boy. The show took itself too seriously and the humor that makes the Tick compelling in various media was barely present. If any character didn't need a grimdark backstory it's Arthur.

FreudianSlippers
Apr 12, 2010

Shooting and Fucking
are the same thing!

Just found out Imagine Dragons are Mormons and it explains their entire sound/vibe.

CPL593H
Oct 28, 2009

I know what you did last summer, and frankly I am displeased.

FreudianSlippers posted:

Just found out Imagine Dragons are Mormons and it explains their entire sound/vibe.

A bunch of lovely pop rock band guys are Mormons. The leader singers of the Killers, Neon Trees, and Panic At the Disco are among them.

Pirate Jet
May 2, 2010
Amazon Tick would’ve been better if they went with the original premise of The Tick being all in Arthur’s head.

Spatulater bro!
Aug 19, 2003

Punch! Punch! Punch!

CPL593H posted:

A bunch of lovely pop rock band guys are Mormons. The leader singers of the Killers, Neon Trees, and Panic At the Disco are among them.

I knew there had to be an underlying reason all that music sucks.

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Nov 8, 2018

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Pirate Jet posted:

Amazon Tick would’ve been better if they went with the original premise of The Tick being all in Arthur’s head.

that sounds terrible.

CPL593H
Oct 28, 2009

I know what you did last summer, and frankly I am displeased.

Pirate Jet posted:

Amazon Tick would’ve been better if they went with the original premise of The Tick being all in Arthur’s head.

It's been a while since I read the Ben Edlund stuff, but I seem to recall that being ambiguous. The issues collected in the volume called Karma Tornado are great. They were written by Christopher McCulloch/Jackson Publick. He didn't end up finishing the story line because he got hired to write for the cartoon, which used a bunch of stuff from that story. Either way, that volume is very much worth it if you like the Tick cartoon and/or Venture Brothers.

Gripweed
Nov 8, 2018

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Was there an Animals of Farthing Wood movie that has escaped the notice of the internet, or a movie that ripped off Animals of Farthing Wood? I have a pretty strong memory of watching a movie about animals fleeing the destruction of their home forest. It wasn't a TV show so it definitely wasn't the Animals of Farthing Wood show, and it was a bunch of different animals so it wasn't Watership Down.

Schwarzwald
Jul 27, 2004

Don't Blink

Gripweed posted:

Was there an Animals of Farthing Wood movie that has escaped the notice of the internet, or a movie that ripped off Animals of Farthing Wood? I have a pretty strong memory of watching a movie about animals fleeing the destruction of their home forest. It wasn't a TV show so it definitely wasn't the Animals of Farthing Wood show, and it was a bunch of different animals so it wasn't Watership Down.

Once Upon a Forest, maybe?

Gripweed
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Schwarzwald posted:

Once Upon a Forest, maybe?

nah they weren't anthropomorphic

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

CPL593H posted:

I thought it sucked. The Tick was barely a character in it because they decided to focus the show on a melodrama centered around a mediocre white boy. The show took itself too seriously and the humor that makes the Tick compelling in various media was barely present. If any character didn't need a grimdark backstory it's Arthur.

Dude is shown pretty early on as genuinely mentally ill as a result of trauma, a tad more than 'mediocre white boy'. Unfortunately they didn't seem to stick to that angle as much as they could.

The show didn't seem to understand well what it wanted to be. I thought it had a real strength in showing a world where superheroes and ordinary people live together, and the supers are often messed up people but still trying their best, but the rest seemed more like indecisive parody.

fenix down
Jan 12, 2005

Gripweed posted:

nah they weren't anthropomorphic
I thought Secret of NIMH at first but probably not it!

Franchescanado
Feb 23, 2013

If it wasn't for disappointment
I wouldn't have any appointment

Grimey Drawer
We now have a thread for Musicals

CPL593H
Oct 28, 2009

I know what you did last summer, and frankly I am displeased.

More like XanaDON'T.

Detective No. 27
Jun 7, 2006

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therattle
Jul 24, 2007
Soiled Meat

"You won't believe which baby doll mannequin grew up to be a sex doll!"

Mordiceius
Nov 10, 2007

If you think calling me names is gonna get a rise out me, think again. I like my life as an idiot!
Is the first Borat film still watchable?

MY WIFE has never seen it and now that the film is loving fifteen years old, I worry it's gonna be problematic and unwatchable. I haven't seen it since its initial release.

CelticPredator
Oct 11, 2013
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It’s very watchable. It’s just not like “oh wow look how racist people are!” It’s more like “yeah that’s not as racist as people are now.”

therattle
Jul 24, 2007
Soiled Meat

CelticPredator posted:

It’s very watchable. It’s just not like “oh wow look how racist people are!” It’s more like “yeah that’s not as racist as people are now.”

Yeah. I don’t remember it that well but he punches down, not up, so it’s more likely to hold up.

Gripweed
Nov 8, 2018

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this is going to kick so much rear end

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BJ51sNNkqU

Grendels Dad
Mar 5, 2011

Popular culture has passed you by.
Mafty, lol.

FreudianSlippers
Apr 12, 2010

Shooting and Fucking
are the same thing!

Am I the only one who thinks the 90s obsession with selling out the was mostly justified and the total abandonment of that idea in recent years is a sign of how commercialised our society has come?

Like I understand that a man's gotta eat but still there still has to be such a thing as artistic integrity. You can't sacrifice it all at the altar of Mammon.

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CelticPredator
Oct 11, 2013
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Yeah you can.

Lurdiak
Feb 26, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.


FreudianSlippers posted:

Am I the only one who thinks the 90s obsession with selling out the was mostly justified and the total abandonment of that idea in recent years is a sign of how commercialised our society has come?

Like I understand that a man's gotta eat but still there still has to be such a thing as artistic integrity. You can't sacrifice it all at the altar of Mammon.

The people making fun of the idea of selling out over the years have exclusively been people who've definitely sold out.

Like if you hear a dude start in about "What does that even MEAN, 'selling out'?", that dude has done cigarette ads or something.

Gripweed
Nov 8, 2018

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In the 90s working at a chain store was selling out. Making popular art that people liked was selling out. They wanted a life of meaning but had never seen one, so they could only define it in negative. They had no idea what authenticity was, they had some vague idea that it involved making terrible scrap metal sculptures in a barn and somehow never worrying about money.

The entire selling out vs staying real discourse of the 90s was the product of white middle class children who didn't know what they wanted to be but they definitely didn't want to wear a tie. They were alive at the end of history and saw the future of suburbs and the Macarena and Cheers reruns stretching out to eternity. But the Soviet Unions had fallen and their parents were living proof of the failure of the cultural revolution of the 60s, so they saw no alternatives.

All they could think was that in them there was some inner kernel that was "authentic" and they could maybe live a life of meaning by finding it and building their entire life on it, whatever it was. There were a few artists of the time, and for them their art could be that thing that was real and true. But if they were talented and lucky, they eventually faced the horror of signing a contract and making money off it. But for the vast majority of them when they reached deep inside all they found was a vague lazy unease with the mainstream world. So that was the only worthwhile life, to be a character in Slacker. To live a life defined only by the lack of the bindings that had bound their parents.

Thank god for 9/11.

Safety Factor
Oct 31, 2009




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therattle posted:

Yeah. I don’t remember it that well but he punches down, not up, so it’s more likely to hold up.
Uh... I think you might have that backwards.

CPL593H
Oct 28, 2009

I know what you did last summer, and frankly I am displeased.
A lot of people equate "selling out" with actually making money off of the thing you're good at instead of when you compromise your morals to water down your poo poo and pander to people that are "beneath" you. Either way it's a cute idea until you realize that everyone in America is poor and most of them are one bad day away from being homeless. The reason why artsy types could moan about that poo poo 20-30 years ago is because the costs of living weren't so out of loving control as they are now. And a lot of those art school dipshits who cared about that probably had rich or at least upper middle class parents and didn't have to worry about when money for groceries came from. Indie hipster street cred doesn't pay the bills and that fact hits people like a ton of bricks when they have to make it on their own.

Though the other side of that coin a good friend of mine is away left wing art school guy who got a fancy high paying job doing graphic design for an ad firm. So basically he "sold out". But the hours were very long and his entire life was just that job. It drained him completely and he just hated his life. He ended up taking a different job with a severe pay cut but now he has time for himself and works on his own personal stuff and it's just been better for him. He's happier now but rapidly running out of money. So I guess either way you sacrifice one thing or the other because capitalism is a poison that destroys lives, fulfillment, and creativity.

CelticPredator
Oct 11, 2013
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I saw a post here, and not tryin to call anyone out, but it was like "i wish more filmmakers would go bankrupt to make their art". I know what they were saying, give everything to make the thing...but like...nooooo.

ruddiger
Jun 3, 2004

I’m an online editor and I treat this poo poo like a 9-5, but then again, you don’t get caught up in the art of tv making when you’re delivering something like 200 episodes in the span of 3-4 months.

When I was a kid I wanted to be a comic book artist, but I had it in my head that it was still like how it was back in the 40s where you clock in, sit at a drawing table in a bullpen and just crank it out. When I realized how hard it was to actually make a living doing comics, I figured I could at least pay the bills working in film and majored in post production instead of fine art.

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Voodoofly
Jul 3, 2002

Some days even my lucky rocket ship underpants don't help

Most of the music and film people I worked with and associated with in the 90s would have died happy to sell out. Especially when you pull graveyard at a gas station convenience store to make rent in between tours that you hope to break even on or work another 3 month “internship” sweeping the floor of a Foley room so you can put something on your resume.

The only people who ever spoke about staying true to art and not selling out almost always had well off families, didn’t need to pay rent or other bills and could afford to live while pursuing art.

The rest of us had to eat and pay bills. I went to law school straight after college primarily so I could defer student loans and figured part time legal contract work would eventually pay better than working a night shift at and editing lab working on demo reels for minimum wage. That was when I intended to still follow my dreams with a part time job to pay the bills.

It was only a couple years later when I completely sold out and said gently caress the entertainment industry altogether.

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