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Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

Warner Brothers is gonna rescue HBOMax with the Fighting Games Cinematic Universe

they have a mortal kombat movie coming out this year

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Egg Moron
Jul 21, 2003

the dreams of the delighting void

this weeks episode of the expanse kind of felt like some of the plotlines were in a holding pattern, waiting for others to catch up, it kind of dragged

Taintrunner
Apr 10, 2017

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Egg Moron posted:

this weeks episode of the expanse kind of felt like some of the plotlines were in a holding pattern, waiting for others to catch up, it kind of dragged

it’s been a pretty meh season unfortunately. earth got loving obliterated and they made it seem like no big deal. I saw what the climax is gonna be via IMDb and with two episodes left, yeah, it’s nowhere near the highs of season 2 or 3

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
There's a scene in Wandavision where Vision accuses the guy with a biggest nose on the show of being a communist

It's played up as a laugh and as a 50s reference, but jesus christ

General Dog
Apr 26, 2008

Everybody's working for the weekend
Wanda throws out the only black woman in her gated cyber community

Lib and let die
Aug 26, 2004

I, for one, am eagerly awaiting the next installment in the Monster Hunter Cinematic Universe

Egg Moron
Jul 21, 2003

the dreams of the delighting void

Taintrunner posted:

it’s been a pretty meh season unfortunately. earth got loving obliterated and they made it seem like no big deal. I saw what the climax is gonna be via IMDb and with two episodes left, yeah, it’s nowhere near the highs of season 2 or 3

I have enjoyed it for the most part

i read the drat books so I think i filled in the gaps in the amos plotline so it just didn't feel like he was magically skipping along through the apocalypse from safe haven to safe haven although that is how it seems in the show I guess, now that I think about it

Farm Frenzy
Jan 3, 2007

my face when the seemingly perfect facade of 1950s suburbia is revealed to be concealing darker forces :eyepop:

Mr Hootington
Jul 24, 2008

I enjoyed the latest wandvision. I hope it continues to be enjoyable.

General Dog
Apr 26, 2008

Everybody's working for the weekend
Next week’s episode, presumably 80s-era, better be shot on actual tape and look like absolute garbage or I’m quitting the series.

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?
too much Naomi walking around whining and breathing heavily and not really doing anything interesting this episode

skooma512
Feb 8, 2012

You couldn't grok my race car, but you dug the roadside blur.

gradenko_2000 posted:

Mira Furlan passed away :(

She played Ambassador Delenn on Babylon 5

:(

Tubgoat
Jun 30, 2013

by sebmojo

Les Os posted:

All the studios looking for an expanded universe while Soulcalibur/Tekkens sitting right there!!!

As a longtime fan of both franchises, I do not trust a living soul with turning either into cinema.

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
I've been reading through Tom Clancy's Commander-in-Chief, another novel set in the Jack Ryan-verse, which wasn't actually written by Tom Clancy since the man's been dead a long time but still carries his name because Branding.

One of the main plot points of the book is that the thinly-veiled allegory for Vladimir Putin wants to invade Lithuania, as the next step up from his invasion of eastern Ukraine (which also happened in this universe, just like how 9/11 still happened in this universe).

The US wants to stop him, of course, but NATO does not want to commit forces to doing so, so President Jack Ryan (senior) has to both place "tripwire" forces in Lithuania just to be able to have a defensive casus belli once the Russian tanks roll in, but also he needs to make a big speech to convince NATO to throw in their lot with newly-minted NATO member Lithuania once Article Five comes into play. The book specifically mentions that Ryan thinks countries like France and Germany will refuse to honor their NATO obligations even after Article Five has been undeniably triggered.

Now, this book was written in 2015, so the right-wing talking points seem to be coming from a place of resentment over Obama's failure to react and lead properly in the face of Russian aggression during his second term, but between all the NATO bashing and the snide asides about how Lithuania let its armed forces stagnate as soon as it entered NATO because it thought that everyone else would pick up the slack afterwards, it ends up sounding a lot like Trump talking about how all other NATO members need to put up their "fair share" of the defense budget to maintain their own militaries.

I thought it was interesting in that regard because it's almost like a snapshot of what the Republican id thought at a time before Trump, and also before they had to distance themselves from Trump as NeverTrumpers, but still have positions and beliefs that end up aligning with him with the benefit of hindsight.

grate deceiver
Jul 10, 2009

Just a funny av. Not a redtext or an own ok.

Egg Moron posted:

I have enjoyed it for the most part

i read the drat books so I think i filled in the gaps in the amos plotline so it just didn't feel like he was magically skipping along through the apocalypse from safe haven to safe haven although that is how it seems in the show I guess, now that I think about it

I have completely blanked on who Clarissa is and whether she even was in the show in previous seasons, so until like last episode I thought that's some obscure book character they pulled for Amos to have something to do, lol

Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

gradenko_2000 posted:

There's a scene in Wandavision where Vision accuses the guy with a biggest nose on the show of being a communist

It's played up as a laugh and as a 50s reference, but jesus christ

its stuff like this that makes it obvious most pop culture about the fifties is pastiche rather than informed about what the era was actually like because both of those things would have been considered horribly gauche in actual contemporary tv

mccarthyism was basically done by the time these sitcoms became a thing but even before then the last things the jews in the tv industry wanted was people thinking this stereotype was real or that it even existed

Dreylad
Jun 19, 2001

indigi posted:

too much Naomi walking around whining and breathing heavily and not really doing anything interesting this episode

I liked that episode, especially on rewatch, even if the season as a whole is dragging some. The whole season has been way more character focused so it's going to definitely feel pretty different than season 2 or 3.

Some Guy TT posted:

its stuff like this that makes it obvious most pop culture about the fifties is pastiche rather than informed about what the era was actually like because both of those things would have been considered horribly gauche in actual contemporary tv

mccarthyism was basically done by the time these sitcoms became a thing but even before then the last things the jews in the tv industry wanted was people thinking this stereotype was real or that it even existed

setting aside the actual quality of the show, this is something the queen's gambit did quite well. everyone was stuff up to their gills in uppers and downers in the 50s and early 60s already on top of alcohol consumption, and the russians aren't baby eating monsters. who knew!

Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

it really threw me at the end how the russians talking chess strategy with each other was kind of presented as cheating but then her chess buddies do the same thing for her

its totally foreshadowed earlier on whatshisname is talking about how the russians are better than the americans because they collaborate and there is of course no rule against discussing the layouts of paused chess games but its exactly the kind of situation thats generally presented as good guys interpret the rules creatively while bad guys cheat

vyelkin
Jan 2, 2011
It's been a few months since I watched it, but I don't remember it ever being presented as cheating for the Russians to discuss strategy with each other, it was more just framed as a difference between the Russians who work as a team and the Americans who are very individualistic. But I may be the wrong person to assess this since I came into the show with the prior knowledge that top chess players go to big matches with "seconds" who help them analyze games and choose strategies to use against their opponents.

Egg Moron
Jul 21, 2003

the dreams of the delighting void

it is definitely true that this season of the expanse had to do a whole bunch of setting pieces up as we get into the climactic action of the 6th book. Less naomi writhing in agony for 15 minutes and more amos and peaches trying to survive the apocalypse would have been a good creative decision i think. being exposed to vacuum makes you feel like poo poo, got it!

the 6th book is the last book in this time frame, the 7th book jumps ahead like 30 years

Taintrunner
Apr 10, 2017

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Yeah, it definitely feels like a bummer that this season is largely just setup for the next and final season.

Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

vyelkin posted:

It's been a few months since I watched it, but I don't remember it ever being presented as cheating for the Russians to discuss strategy with each other, it was more just framed as a difference between the Russians who work as a team and the Americans who are very individualistic. But I may be the wrong person to assess this since I came into the show with the prior knowledge that top chess players go to big matches with "seconds" who help them analyze games and choose strategies to use against their opponents.

i may have phrased that poorly i think the initial shot of the russians discussing paused chess games with each other somewhat makes it look like theyre cheating because its framed in a sinister way but they arent really and this is basically confirmed by her american chess friends making a super expensive long distance phone call to give her the same kind of advice as well as by the ending which shows her being sincerely validated and grateful for the russians respect

vyelkin
Jan 2, 2011

Some Guy TT posted:

i may have phrased that poorly i think the initial shot of the russians discussing paused chess games with each other somewhat makes it look like theyre cheating because its framed in a sinister way but they arent really and this is basically confirmed by her american chess friends making a super expensive long distance phone call to give her the same kind of advice as well as by the ending which shows her being sincerely validated and grateful for the russians respect

agreed, if anything I thought it was fascinating the extent to which the show was willing to show the discrepancies between the US and the Soviets in a pro-Soviet light

not just in the chess games themselves and the players working as a team, but also things like: the Soviet players are incredibly nice and gracious to her the whole time and iirc never disrespect her for being a woman the way American players did; the Soviet players are treated well by their country and feted like world-class athletes who play in fancy venues while the top American chess players live in atrocious conditions, play their tournaments in high school gyms, and have to beg for money just to travel to international tournaments; the only Americans interested in supporting their top chess players before they're proven winners are missionaries who want them to spread the word of Jesus to the atheist Soviets; the American government only takes interest in her as a potential pawn in the Cold War while the Soviets seem legitimately interested in the game of chess itself; and so on

Clip-On Fedora
Feb 20, 2011

And now, something borderline impenetrable:

https://twitter.com/msmlroberts/status/1352954492363403264

Taintrunner
Apr 10, 2017

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

it’s pretty much arguing that white film reviewers shouldn’t be allowed to critique/review movies starring black people. segregation but woke

Wraith of J.O.I.
Jan 25, 2012



segregation but woke is gonna go mainstream this decade i swear

Wraith of J.O.I.
Jan 25, 2012


english language critics can NOT review or promote foreign language films!!

Clip-On Fedora
Feb 20, 2011

I guess horseshoe theory does apply to film critics.

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?

Egg Moron posted:

the 6th book is the last book in this time frame, the 7th book jumps ahead like 30 years

what happens in the sixth book again? I’ve completely blanked it from my mind

KomradeX
Oct 29, 2011

Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:

Actually good "historical" movies and TV shows:

1. Downfall
2. The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford
3. Master and Commander
4. The Death of Stalin
5. Ride with the Devil
6. Rome

Don't forget The Death of Stalin is also a comic book movie

Aglet56
Sep 1, 2011
was i the only one who was left a little cold by the death of stalin? i loved veep (well, at least the first few seasons) but somehow the ianucci "politicians but with swears" thing didn't work for me with death of stalin. i thought they did a decent job of streamlining the historical events, but somehow it never crossed the line from edgy to funny to me.

beria being a deadass rapist, of course, is historically accurate but it felt more like misery porn than anything else

having sexpest jeffrey tambor around didn't help either

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

gradenko_2000 posted:

I've been reading through Tom Clancy's Commander-in-Chief, another novel set in the Jack Ryan-verse, which wasn't actually written by Tom Clancy since the man's been dead a long time but still carries his name because Branding.

One of the main plot points of the book is that the thinly-veiled allegory for Vladimir Putin wants to invade Lithuania, as the next step up from his invasion of eastern Ukraine (which also happened in this universe, just like how 9/11 still happened in this universe).

did the the book mention how Russia and China fought a war over Siberia in the 2000s in this universe. that seems like a bigger deal than the Donbass War or Crimea.

the rest of this post is cool too. agitating for increasing NATO spending and snarking about how the Europeans had lovely armies was a thing you heard from hawkish libs under Obama as well from what I recall. Trump got bashed a lot for his NATO remarks for how mainstream they were.

Egg Moron
Jul 21, 2003

the dreams of the delighting void

indigi posted:

what happens in the sixth book again? I’ve completely blanked it from my mind

been a while but basically the martian conspirators and marco's free navy are working together to neutralize the earth and mars as powers with different ends, the conspirators are aiming to take a system with a mineral rich earthlike planet and all the protomolocule knowledge and samples and will eventually reemerge as the Laconian Empire in the 7th book. Marco is aiming to create an autonomous belt empire but is facing logistical problems throughout the book. His high water mark was the attack on earth and as the dust is settling, earth and mars are teaming up to attack their mutual enemies in the free navy and forging closer ties as they both realize they are kind of hosed. Things come to a head in the slow zone when marco is poised to send his fleet through to take control of medina station and they use some trickery to "overload" the gate and have marcos fleet get swallowed up by the gate monsters or whatever without a trace. Something about Marco feeling an encroaching dark presence in the space between his atoms.

In the end, earth, mars and the belt establish the spacing guild that will be based on medina station in order to facilitate orderly transfer of humans and material between the sol system and the gate systems. many of the surviving characters work as functionaries within this order until the next book begins three decades later. They try to put holden in charge, but he says michio pa should be in charge, and in the show that will probably end up being drummer

Toph Bei Fong
Feb 29, 2008




quote:

Hear me out, fellow BIPOC critics! Maybe every film isn’t meant for us to be the ones to critique. Maybe critics who are white should be prioritized to see & review white made/centered films first, as there may be aspects to it, that due our life experiences, we won’t get.

Egg Moron
Jul 21, 2003

the dreams of the delighting void

A list of Die Hards
--------------------------------
Die Hard in a building

Die Hard 2, Die Hard in a airport

Die Hard with a Vengeance, Die Hard in New York City

Under Siege, Die Hard on a Boat

Under Siege 2 Dark Territory, Die Hard on a Trian

Sudden Death, Die Hard at a hockey game

Toy Soldiers, Die Hard at a starfleet academy

Passenger 57, Die Hard on an airplane

Air Force One, Die Hard on Air Force One

Cliffhanger, Die Hard on a mountain

Executive Decision, Die Hard on an airplane, a big one

3 Ninjas: High Noon at Mega Mountain, Die Hard at an amusement park

some are debatable

is con air a dire hard?

is the rock a die hard?

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?
no they’re Lethal Weapon style two handers

Egg Moron
Jul 21, 2003

the dreams of the delighting void

indigi posted:

no they’re Lethal Weapon style two handers


:hmmyes:

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
Speed is Die Hard on a bus

duz
Jul 11, 2005

Come on Ilhan, lets go bag us a shitpost


Egg Moron posted:

A list of Die Hards
--------------------------------
Die Hard in a building

Die Hard 2, Die Hard in a airport

Die Hard with a Vengeance, Die Hard in New York City

Under Siege, Die Hard on a Boat

Under Siege 2 Dark Territory, Die Hard on a Trian

Sudden Death, Die Hard at a hockey game

Toy Soldiers, Die Hard at a starfleet academy

Passenger 57, Die Hard on an airplane

Air Force One, Die Hard on Air Force One

Cliffhanger, Die Hard on a mountain

Executive Decision, Die Hard on an airplane, a big one

3 Ninjas: High Noon at Mega Mountain, Die Hard at an amusement park

some are debatable

is con air a dire hard?

is the rock a die hard?

there is also blast (1997), it is die hard in a natatorium during the atlantic olympics
andrew divoff is playing hans gruber and rutger hauer is playing sgt al powell

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Egg Moron
Jul 21, 2003

the dreams of the delighting void

gradenko_2000 posted:

Speed is Die Hard on a bus

yes, yes

speed 2 cruise control is die hard on a cruise ship

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