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babypolis posted:that tweet is funny but its not longer applicable to our lives, when some people make a living tru the internet, and being cancelled can ruin your real life too They should have not said the r word then tbh
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Terminal autist posted:Unless someone is actively targeting mentally disabled people and calling them a retard who loving cares, it's the most sanctimonious wokescold poo poo possible. I want to see all the brave apple polishers in this thread record themselves irl policing peoples language. yes real leftism is being an rear end in a top hat to everyone and never respecting other peoples feelings and desires. THIS is how you build the solidarity for a real working class movement folks
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Populon posted:The point I'm clumsily trying to make is that it's not the end of the world to express negative, derisive, or even insulting ideas or comments to one another on this website where we were making 911 photoshops on 911 as the towers fell. I think it's dumb to try and push our online language to be overly positive as this website has always been kind of trolly and somewhat mean Again, it's about intent. We know that we come here to post ridiculous stuff. For what reason? Maybe to try to stay sane in an increasingly insane world. Our intent isn't (mostly) to harm others or exert dominance with those posts, I get that. But my posts in this thread are more along the line of a way I have begun approaching life in general lately. And some of the gifs I've made I've actually debated with myself the bullying intent. However, this forum has, to me, seemed like a place that is self-aware of the bullying that comes along with it. It has seemed to me to be ironical posting of put downs. Me posting a gif of Trup freeze framing in an 80's VHS mode with some clever text as a meme is not me posting to put him down. It's me expressing in art the absurdity of the man who wants the world to see his whole rear end. But this goes back to what I said earlier about using humor to defeat bullying. You can't just cut down the bully with humor and walk away. You have to show that person that they are just as equal as everyone else and use it as a learning endeavor. Even the invocation of the the dissolution of his surname as Trup or Tumpf or whatever is an area where you could say one on this forum is bullying the guy. But the way I've always interpreted this board is in the ironical sense, again. Trump has made his life of getting the word Trump into and onto everything. Anagramming his name is artistic resistance to what is a power move by Trump to be the only thing that people talk about every day. The second step is, hypothetically, that he would realize his bullying ways and then we could discuss the whole attempt. But it requires the bully to accept that they have been belittling others first.
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Jan 25, 2021 01:02
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Quotey posted:i imagine you've all killed the cop in your head by this point. well, now you must kill the retard in your head.
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Jan 25, 2021 01:03
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lacking the basic level of empathy needed to do something really easy that makes other people feel better? thats praxis baby
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Jan 25, 2021 01:04
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samantonio posted:Again, it's about intent. We know that we come here to post ridiculous stuff. For what reason? Maybe to try to stay sane in an increasingly insane world. my reason is just to hit post
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Jan 25, 2021 01:07
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babypolis posted:lacking the basic level of empathy needed to do something really easy that makes other people feel better? thats praxis baby
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Jan 25, 2021 01:07
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Homeless Friend posted:my reason is just to hit post Oh, well then. Brunch?
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Jan 25, 2021 01:08
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Populon posted:It would be easy and make me fell better if everyone stopped trying to turn their choice of not using the word retard into a moral victory. Do you have enough empathy to do that? you seem pretty confused about the concept of empathy. its ok im sure youll wrap your head around it
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Jan 25, 2021 01:09
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look im not gonna sccold anyone for using the r word, its a fun word, i like it too. but theres also a million words that work just as well and dont make other people feel bad, so i choose to use those words but all the people pretending its real leftism to use a slur and not care are lol. just admit you dont want to change your habits
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Jan 25, 2021 01:10
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babypolis posted:look im not gonna sccold anyone for using the r word, its a fun word, i like it too. but theres also a million words that work just as well and dont make other people feel bad, so i choose to use those words This. It's an interesting day on C-SPAM watching leftists argue in favor of demeaning other people for lolz.
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I mean I'm pretty sure I've never used the word on this website except this thread and I'm not really wanting to use the word for any reason. It just feels ridiculous to act like its against the cspam or sa way to demean or belittle or insult
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Jan 25, 2021 01:15
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Let's just all use the word 'big dummy poopoo head doodie brains' instead
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I don't think anyone is arguing that its praxis to call people retarded. But it is fun to call liberals retarded.
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A good barometer for the acidity of a slur is how likely will this result in physical consequences for me if I use it against the intended group and well...
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Jan 25, 2021 01:18
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Populon posted:I mean I'm pretty sure I've never used the word on this website except this thread and I'm not really wanting to use the word for any reason. It just feels ridiculous to act like its against the cspam or sa way to demean or belittle or insult so why dont we call each other the n word, or the f word? even when insulting each other there are words we consider to be beyond the pale someone in this very thread mentioned why he finds it so personally offensive when people use the r word
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Jan 25, 2021 01:20
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Terminal autist posted:A good barometer for the acidity of a slur is how likely will this result in physical consequences for me if I use it against the intended group and well... That is a ridiculous amount of energy and effort you're using in your life to create a situation out of nothing that you then have to measure your words against use of. Or you could just not put people down. In general.
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Jan 25, 2021 01:26
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babypolis posted:but all the people pretending its real leftism to use a slur and not care are lol. no one's saying that dumb dumb.
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Jan 25, 2021 01:28
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Homeless Friend posted:de_mean Retards win
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Scenario: Hm, there's a dude over there. What level of lovely should I make him feel. Well, I'm an intellectual leftist, so I should probably make him feel the lowest level of lovely. "Hey. Dude. You're a terrible person." Yeah, that's how us leftists put down others. There was very little harm done. He'll feel better tomorrow. Alternative Scenario: "Hey. Dude. Cool hat."
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Jan 25, 2021 01:31
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My man I think you might be retarded. Baby, that is. Sam's "be zen while the gears grind you to paste" bit is good.
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Baby I saw that quote you picked to try and defend your weird strawman and no ninja edit will remove it. Learn to read.
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babypolis posted:so why dont we call each other the n word, or the f word? even when insulting each other there are words we consider to be beyond the pale Lots of people do.I don't propose we start doing it here as we have a pretty consistent feel as far as what is and is not cool to say around here currently. I'm not even proposing that we bring back "retard". I'm more talking about samantonio posted:Again, it's about intent. We know that we come here to post ridiculous stuff. For what reason? Maybe to try to stay sane in an increasingly insane world. Our intent isn't (mostly) to harm others or exert dominance with those posts, I get that. But my posts in this thread are more along the line of a way I have begun approaching life in general lately. And some of the gifs I've made I've actually debated with myself the bullying intent. However, this forum has, to me, seemed like a place that is self-aware of the bullying that comes along with it. It has seemed to me to be ironical posting of put downs. Me posting a gif of Trup freeze framing in an 80's VHS mode with some clever text as a meme is not me posting to put him down. It's me expressing in art the absurdity of the man who wants the world to see his whole rear end. But this goes back to what I said earlier about using humor to defeat bullying. You can't just cut down the bully with humor and walk away. You have to show that person that they are just as equal as everyone else and use it as a learning endeavor. Even the invocation of the the dissolution of his surname as Trup or Tumpf or whatever is an area where you could say one on this forum is bullying the guy. But the way I've always interpreted this board is in the ironical sense, again. Trump has made his life of getting the word Trump into and onto everything. Anagramming his name is artistic resistance to what is a power move by Trump to be the only thing that people talk about every day. The second step is, hypothetically, that he would realize his bullying ways and then we could discuss the whole attempt. But it requires the bully to accept that they have been belittling others first. Sometimes I want to post rudely about politics. I don't want to cut down the bully and teach him anything. Yeah, I just want to be an rear end in a top hat I guess but I don't think we're building leftism on cspam so why can't we just be consensual assholes to each other? You don't have to if you don't want to
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Jan 25, 2021 01:33
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babypolis posted:that tweet is funny but its not longer applicable to our lives, when some people make a living tru the internet, and being cancelled can ruin your real life too. or like kids having their entire social lives be online, specially right now In those cases it is even more important to remember that things such as reading books or going for a walk exist.
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read the following sentence out loud i am sofa king. we todd did. heheheh hehehehehehehe
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Dolphin posted:read the following sentence out loud is this your praxis? why aren't you organizing?
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babypolis posted:so why dont we call each other the n word, or the f word? even when insulting each other there are words we consider to be beyond the pale the n word has been posted multiple times in this thread in a humorous-tweet-reference context so Im not really sure what youre getting at here. people dont need slurs to be bullies or bigots. for example someone could say something like shut the gently caress up you degenerate freak and it would be far more offensive than saying op is retarded lol. at a certain point you have to ask people be cognizant of the tone, context and meaning behind their speech, but simply banning a list of bad words does little to remedy the sentiment behind hateful intent. fwiw I dont really say slurs irl or in my posts (French joke itt aside) but I hate how these discussions turn into a reductionistic binary between virtuous, good correct language sayers and bad, ignorant, bullies who love saying slurs
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Populon posted:Lots of people do.I don't propose we start doing it here as we have a pretty consistent feel as far as what is and is not cool to say around here currently. I'm not even proposing that we bring back "retard". I'm more talking about No I agree with your premise. On this board for the most part we post ironically assholish things. But the intent is to just troll for trolling sake and lol for the lolz. That's embedded, ingrained, inherent, whatever. But you know when someone crosses the line into the territory of bullying in an attempt to minimize someone for power reasons. It feels wrong. If people one the forum say that using the word retard is offensive to them, what does it cost you to not use it? Nothing. That's where I'm at.
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TheSlutPit posted:the n word has been posted multiple times in this thread in a humorous-tweet-reference context so Im not really sure what youre getting at here. people dont need slurs to be bullies or bigots. for example someone could say something like shut the gently caress up you degenerate freak and it would be far more offensive than saying op is retarded lol. at a certain point you have to ask people be cognizant of the tone, context and meaning behind their speech, but simply banning a list of bad words does little to remedy the sentiment behind hateful intent.
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Jan 25, 2021 01:45
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It's a great word. Easiest way to really get under the skin of people I hate (I am incredibly lazy) and my favorite 80's movies use it.
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samantonio posted:I reject the framing you're using. I'm simply saying, why say something that hurts a person? Why not be bigger than that?
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Jan 25, 2021 01:52
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It's in the first 4 minutes of The Pest.
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CODChimera posted:Agreed. It is kinda amusing watching people try to logic up a reason as to why they should keep saying it though it reminds me of andrew sullivan studiously pondering the inclusiveness and validity of channers referring to themselves as "-f*gs"
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