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super sweet best pal
Nov 18, 2009

Space Kablooey posted:

If CGI Luke is bad and recasting Luke is also bad, they can solve this conundrum by... not putting Luke there in the first place.

Heck you could put in Ezra and have him and Grogu tie back with the Ashoka/thrawn plot in the Ashoka series.

Or just make up another Jedi that works too

Jedi master Therm Scissorpunch

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Space Kablooey
May 6, 2009


:yeah:

TIP
Mar 21, 2006

Your move, creep.



It should have been an even babier Yoda.

FuturePastNow
May 19, 2014


Space Kablooey posted:

If CGI Luke is bad and recasting Luke is also bad, they can solve this conundrum by... not putting Luke there in the first place.

Heck you could put in Ezra and have him and Grogu tie back with the Ashoka/thrawn plot in the Ashoka series.

Or just make up another Jedi that works too

and now they have to eventually try to explain how Kylo totally didn't murder Baby Yoda (or alternatively, tell us that Kylo did murder Baby Yoda)

Lister
Apr 23, 2004

Space Kablooey posted:

If CGI Luke is bad and recasting Luke is also bad, they can solve this conundrum by... not putting Luke there in the first place.

Heck you could put in Ezra and have him and Grogu tie back with the Ashoka/thrawn plot in the Ashoka series.

Or just make up another Jedi that works too

But then nerds wont be crying about how Star Wars is saved.

luchajones
Jan 28, 2018

I have no beard, and I must scream
From the Larry King thread:

Obeah posted:

His interview with Andrew McCarthy ca. 1987 has always been near and dear to me.

quote:

Andrew McCarthy: Because the source material is so dark, and the film goes to a lot of dark places. I didn't -- I didn't want my parents thinking I was in something obscene. [Laughs]

Larry King: What do you consider obscene?

McCarthy: Smut? Like porn, I guess?

King: Like an Italian horror film, I imagine.

McCarthy: Not specifically that, no. Uh... what are those called?

King: I've seen some outrageous things in those.

McCarthy: Um -- uh, giallo? Like that?

King: Mmm-hmm. Saw one once. Let's just say this man let a turtle perform oral sex on him.

McCarthy: Oh! That sounds pretty bad.

https://www.billboard.com/articles/news/9515533/larry-king-dead-dies-musician-interviews


What movie is this?

Endless Trash
Aug 12, 2007


You could have Luke in silhouette, you could have red alert lights on so you only see a hooded red face, you could just bring Mark Hamill back and if anyone complains that he looks too old you can say “well at least it’s not some cgi monstrosity! God! Could you imagine?”

oohhboy
Jun 8, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

stephenthinkpad posted:

The color is so over processed it look more like video game cut scene than a...200 million movie.

Also, they got the prime minister of New Zealand in a movie.

Mouth nowhere near big enough to bite someone's head clean off.

:lol: :rip: Hong Kong. Godzilla fighting King Kong in Hong Kong in this time frame is rather ironic.

Lister posted:

Bottom line is they recast Han and it didn't work. They're never going to try recasting an iconic role again unless it's behind a suit or a ton of makeup.

It didn't work because they cast the wrong person. They had time travelling Harrison Ford and didn't take him. Dude was perfect, beyond impersonation. He wasn't going to save the film as it was dire af, but people would have been drat interested to the character under him.

Space Kablooey posted:

If CGI Luke is bad and recasting Luke is also bad, they can solve this conundrum by... not putting Luke there in the first place.

Nah, it was "Fine" having Luke. It was the execution that was off, not Luke the character. Others have noted was very likely financial considerations rather than finding an appropriate actor. This blow back on Luke is the flip side of people masturbating to Luke.

:lol: That "Improved" Luke. Just from the thumbnail they hosed it up. No need to watch that.

Lister posted:

I guess it's fine enough but Discovery kind of did that with it's first episodes and the way the Klingons viewed the Federation were "they'll get us to assimilate into their society and we'll lose our identity" which is kind of true but never really followed up on.

*Undiscovered Country*.

Having actually seen the first season it never gets brought up again nor did it make any sense. They had nothing on how the federation was trying to assimilate them other than them saying it. gently caress all build up. They didn't have any real contact for a hundred(?) years yet that is the conclusion they all arrived at. Literally the one thing they hung everything on was "We come in peace", would you like to have a chat? January 6th made more sense.

Stepping out, the writers both wanted a casus belli and pot shots at MAGA. Being hack frauds they managed to shank both goals, and it didn't help they were running their mouths off. Picard was even worse in that aspect with the Patrick interview.

colonelwest
Jun 30, 2018

Space Kablooey posted:

If CGI Luke is bad and recasting Luke is also bad, they can solve this conundrum by... not putting Luke there in the first place.

Heck you could put in Ezra and have him and Grogu tie back with the Ashoka/thrawn plot in the Ashoka series.

Or just make up another Jedi that works too

It had to be Luke for marketing reasons. Disney did a huge self-own by letting Rian Johnson turn Luke into a pathetic old failure, it devalued the whole brand and cost them a poo poo ton of money. Just those few minutes of Luke being cool and good paid off enormously for them, and all of the fanboys are now back on the Star Wars train.

FuturePastNow posted:

and now they have to eventually try to explain how Kylo totally didn't murder Baby Yoda (or alternatively, tell us that Kylo did murder Baby Yoda)

One of the most baffling things about the ST is how it’s such a massive narrative dead end, for what was supposed to be the kickoff to decades of new Star Wars films. It will be interesting to see how they work around this the closer that the post ROTJ shows get to TFA. But I really think they’re going to retcon the ST eventually.

General Dog
Apr 26, 2008

Everybody's working for the weekend

Space Kablooey posted:

If CGI Luke is bad and recasting Luke is also bad, they can solve this conundrum by... not putting Luke there in the first place.

Heck you could put in Ezra and have him and Grogu tie back with the Ashoka/thrawn plot in the Ashoka series.

Or just make up another Jedi that works too

You could also not build up the entire first two seasons to Grogu being handed off to a Jedi. If that’s the end point for the arc, Luke is really the only person who makes sense from a buildup/payoff standpoint, but nobody made them write the series that way.

I mean, somebody probably actually did, but you get what I’m saying. From the point that Viking Mando woman said “you have to deliver him to his kind” the show wrote a check to the audience that said “sooner or later, this will lead to Luke Skywalker.” But they could’ve just not made that promise to begin with.

General Dog fucked around with this message at 06:44 on Jan 25, 2021

oohhboy
Jun 8, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
His "own" kind was a bit vague. It didn't have to be Jedi. It could have meant his home world or past caretakers or parents. They didn't know anything about BY and didn't understand his Force Powers. The obvious path was Jedi but it wasn't a lock.

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

it’s either something snuff film tier or one of those mondo movies

mallratcal
Sep 10, 2003


Yeah, Cannibal Holocaust if anything.

Lister
Apr 23, 2004

General Dog posted:

You could also not build up the entire first two seasons to Grogu being handed off to a Jedi. If that’s the end point for the arc, Luke is really the only person who makes sense from a buildup/payoff standpoint, but nobody made them write the series that way.

I mean, somebody probably actually did, but you get what I’m saying. From the point that Viking Mando woman said “you have to deliver him to his kind” the show wrote a check to the audience that said “sooner or later, this will lead to Luke Skywalker.” But they could’ve just not made that promise to begin with.

It could have just as easily been the yoda race of people coming to get him. I've said in this thread before and this makes the most sense in the story and also doesn't put a question mark on Grogu's fate because we know Luke is ultimately going to be an abject failure.

thalweg
Aug 26, 2019

Why did diamond cobra or whatever get removed? (at least, i think that's the deleted video in the botw playlist)

Randarkman
Jul 18, 2011

thalweg posted:

Why did diamond cobra or whatever get removed? (at least, i think that's the deleted video in the botw playlist)

What? No!! I really liked that episode.

Guess would be DMCA shenanigans or something.

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



Soiled Meat

Bloody Hedgehog posted:

They should, they've already got a strong look-alike candidate in Sebastian Stan. I also thought that Tom Payne, for Prodigal Son and Walking Dead, also has a strong look-alike potential for Skywalker as well.



Counterpoint> They should just cancel Star Wars.

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



Soiled Meat

thalweg posted:

Why did diamond cobra or whatever get removed? (at least, i think that's the deleted video in the botw playlist)

The "publisher" of the "director's" "music" got hold of it.

stephenthinkpad
Jan 2, 2020
I think Disney wanted to give Mark Hamill a voice role to patch up his feelings to the franchise, which I agree it's very important to the money bottom line (because Hamill is not likely to drink himself to death in near future) . And this just make TLJ an even more bizarre multinational corporation product.

stephenthinkpad fucked around with this message at 10:37 on Jan 25, 2021

Quantum of Phallus
Dec 27, 2010

The thing that always wrecks my head when you see those “we did the cgi faces better!!!” videos is that 90% of the work is already done by the time these YouTube hacks come in and polish up the work that’s taken VFX artists weeks or months.

Like it’s so much harder to go from 75 to 25 year old DeNiro than it is to go from 25 year old to slightly better 25 year old DeNiro.

lobsterminator
Oct 16, 2012




Quantum of Phallus posted:

The thing that always wrecks my head when you see those “we did the cgi faces better!!!” videos is that 90% of the work is already done by the time these YouTube hacks come in and polish up the work that’s taken VFX artists weeks or months.

Like it’s so much harder to go from 75 to 25 year old DeNiro than it is to go from 25 year old to slightly better 25 year old DeNiro.

Yep. Only good example I recall of that kind of video was when some people removed Cavill's mustache better. They used Mission Impossible footage and remove the mustache instead of just cleaning up the bad superman footage.

NoneMoreNegative
Jul 20, 2000
GOTH FASCISTIC
PAIN
MASTER




shit wizard dad

Honestly I was a fan of Corridor Crew but seeing the way they handled people asking questions about them working with the chud-right Black Rifle Coffee Company (wallpapering and deleting all posts on the subject) they can get out of my YT Subs list. Only one out of several million but you don't buddy up with assholes without at least some comeuppance.

The lovely racist 'shoot stereotypical arabs' short film they made was warning enough, but seeing how they are working with BRCC for sponsorship and BRCC are also in bed with rightwing Blaze Media (who are currently stanning for Kyle Rittenhouse) that's the last straw.

Schweinhund
Oct 23, 2004

:derp:   :kayak:                                     

luchajones posted:

What movie is this?

Jay doesn't read this thread

Zzulu
May 15, 2009

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Space Kablooey posted:

If CGI Luke is bad and recasting Luke is also bad, they can solve this conundrum by... not putting Luke there in the first place.



Yeah there was no need for Luke. He had zero presence in the overall story and it could have just been another Jedi master showing up. You know, a new character that maybe we could learn a bit about in the show?? His appearance wasn't even good. He shows up to kill a few pointless robots then goes back to his home planet instantly with basically zero interaction with our protagonist

Zzulu fucked around with this message at 11:09 on Jan 25, 2021

Quantum of Phallus
Dec 27, 2010

They just can't help themselves. You literally coulda just had the dude stay in a robe with a green lightsaber and the robot hand. Everyone would have known.

Gargamel Gibson
Apr 24, 2014

NoneMoreNegative posted:

The lovely racist 'shoot stereotypical arabs' short film they made was warning enough, but seeing how they are working with BRCC for sponsorship and BRCC are also in bed with rightwing Blaze Media (who are currently stanning for Kyle Rittenhouse) that's the last straw.

For a second I thought Corridor Crew was working with Backroom Casting Couch. Now I'm disappointed.

Galewolf
Jan 9, 2007

The human gallbladder is indeed a puzzle!
Y'all missing a point. Having someone else like Ashoka, Kanan, or, hell, Kyle Katarn instead of CGI Luke would not create endless reaction videos on YT while nerds yell at their screens. Disney is a job creator dammit :colbert:

It appears that we are on a new plane of existence that there are reaction videos to someone else's reaction videos or "[Some random douchebag] watches [Anorther unkempt neckbeard] react to X" videos now.

ENDLESS THRASH!

luchajones
Jan 28, 2018

I have no beard, and I must scream
No one would care about CGI Luke if they stopped watching Star Wars poo poo.

Vim Fuego
Jun 1, 2000
Probation
Can't post for 3 days!
Ultra Carp

A HORNY SWEARENGEN posted:

I know it's said a lot, but loving LMAO that the biggest franchise in TV history went from cultural ultra-phenomenon to completely forgotten overnight because the two dipshit showrunners threw the series under the bus so they could move on to do Star Wars, thus killing their own careers while JJ Abrams was drowning Star Wars in a toilet.

lol

At least they didn't get to do their weird slavery fetish show they planned on

Vim Fuego
Jun 1, 2000
Probation
Can't post for 3 days!
Ultra Carp

steinrokkan posted:

Counterpoint> They should just cancel Star Wars.

:hmmyes:

Taintrunner
Apr 10, 2017

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
It would have actually ruled if they put Kyle Katarn in instead of Luke since they already brought back the fuckin' Dark Troopers

give me the Katarn Cinematic Universe you hackin fuckin fraudlings!

stephenthinkpad
Jan 2, 2020

Vim Fuego posted:

lol

At least they didn't get to do their weird slavery fetish show they planned on

Instead of alternate slavery history they are putting their eneegy on ruining The Three Body problem.

This D&D discussion reminds me GRRM is still alive and still pretending he is writing which upsets my stomach.

luchajones
Jan 28, 2018

I have no beard, and I must scream
What the hell is taking GRRM so god drat long?

Galewolf
Jan 9, 2007

The human gallbladder is indeed a puzzle!

stephenthinkpad posted:

This D&D discussion reminds me GRRM is still alive and still pretending he is writing which upsets my stomach.

Lmao at this forever. He should be thanking D&D for literally killing any popular interest in him completing the books as the collective memory about A Song of TL;DR will be forever tarnished by the last 3 seasons.

Didn't he said something like "Oh, we wrote the ending with D&D in line with how I imagined the books ended" which is probably the biggest gently caress you to fans of the books.

I have nothing but respect for the colossal hustle GURRM pulled on that one.

colonelwest
Jun 30, 2018

stephenthinkpad posted:

Instead of alternate slavery history they are putting their eneegy on ruining The Three Body problem.

This D&D discussion reminds me GRRM is still alive and still pretending he is writing which upsets my stomach.

To be fair to D&D, they probably thought that GRRM would at least have book 6 if not the whole series finished by the time they were ready to wrap up GoT. You could tell they had the basic plot points for the last two books from GRRM but no idea how to connect any of them. But at this point, judging from how much of a sprawling and unfocused mess the later books devolve into and that it’s been a decade since the last entry, I don’t think GRRM has any clue how to satisfyingly wrap things up either.

hemale in pain
Jun 5, 2010




The dark troopers were literally just super battle droids with better armour. I can't believe that guy from breaking bad put so much effort into like 30 year old technology.

bone emulator
Nov 3, 2005

Wrrroavr

Taintrunner posted:

It would have actually ruled if they put Kyle Katarn in instead of Luke since they already brought back the fuckin' Dark Troopers

give me the Katarn Cinematic Universe you hackin fuckin fraudlings!

Only if they got the dude from the fmv cutscenes in Jedi Knight.

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Quantum of Phallus
Dec 27, 2010

Whizzing Wizard posted:

the fmv cutscenes in Jedi Knight.


the what

Galewolf
Jan 9, 2007

The human gallbladder is indeed a puzzle!

Whizzing Wizard posted:

Only if they got the dude from the fmv cutscenes in Jedi Knight.

Jerec had the best Jedi Team Rocket.

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Moola
Aug 16, 2006

The fmvs own in a very bad way

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