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MrL_JaKiri posted:It depends on what's on the Felt FR60 - I googled one and it appears to have Shimano Claris, is that correct? right, so i buy another cassette and just leave it on... i assume changing cassettes is a little intensive and something you don't want to do every week alternatively, how many parts are affected by putting on an 11 speed cassette and changing out the components to match it? my guess would be 'basically buy a new bike' :edit: Nevermind I'm just being stupid, I ordered a replacement 8 speed cassette (surprisingly hard to find on amazon!) it'll be here in a few weeks, once my trainer arrives end of Feb Blue On Blue fucked around with this message at 00:22 on Jan 15, 2021 |
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Blue On Blue posted:right, so i buy another cassette and just leave it on... i assume changing cassettes is a little intensive and something you don't want to do every week You are going to need at least one spacer to get it to match the width of the 11 speed cassette you are replacing. It should be 1.8mm but I don’t know all the details about your bike/trainer
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I bought a Tacx Neo 2T because I am tired of my loud rear end Fluid 2 setup, and I look forward to it doing typical TACX things like completely making GBS threads the bed within a week.
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Octopus Magic posted:I bought a Tacx Neo 2T because I am tired of my loud rear end Fluid 2 setup, and I look forward to it doing typical TACX things like completely making GBS threads the bed within a week. lol’d
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Octopus Magic posted:I bought a Tacx Neo 2T because I am tired of my loud rear end Fluid 2 setup, and I look forward to it doing typical TACX things like completely making GBS threads the bed within a week. I've had good luck with my Tacx hardware. Tacx Fortius: 2007-2015. The software sucked, but the hardware was solid. The VR world would crash out once every 10 rides or so. The workout software never had a problem, but it was boring as hell. Tacx Bushido: 2015-2020. I got this when I was accepted into the beta release of Zwift. The only problem I ever has was when my son dropped it onto a concrete floor and broke the resistance unit. Tacx sent me a new on for free. I sold it to a Zwift newbie, and he has already outgrown it and bought a direct drive system of some type. Tacx Neo 2T: 2020-present. So far so good. I think it ran a bit low when compared to my crank based PM. But now the two seem to match up well. Again, I only use it on Zwift. I really like the more realistic inertia and the surface simulation gimmick. Both the Bushido and Neo 2T worked well with PerfPro Studio for group workouts, but Covid put an end to that for now.
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Time posted:You are going to need at least one spacer to get it to match the width of the 11 speed cassette you are replacing. It should be 1.8mm but I don’t know all the details about your bike/trainer Cheers. Am I to understand that the trainer comes with spacers ? Or do I need to purchase them separately If so are they a common item I can get at any bike shop ?
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Blue On Blue posted:Cheers. Am I to understand that the trainer comes with spacers ? Or do I need to purchase them separately The trainer should have come with the spacer, but a shop probably has some lying around too.
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***zwifting intensifies***
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e.pilot posted:***zwifting intensifies*** Lmao, I’ve gotta ask. You have a million bikes there which you could surely just hook one up to a direct drive trainer and be done with it. So, why the stages? I could see if your wife also uses it maybe, but is it just n+1?
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nwin posted:Lmao, I’ve gotta ask. You have a million bikes there which you could surely just hook one up to a direct drive trainer and be done with it. So, why the stages? I could see if your wife also uses it maybe, but is it just n+1? My wife in fact, also uses it.
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nwin posted:Lmao, I’ve gotta ask. You have a million bikes there which you could surely just hook one up to a direct drive trainer and be done with it. So, why the stages? I could see if your wife also uses it maybe, but is it just n+1? It's a better experience than riding a bike slapped on a trainer. 1) It's based on their commercial spinbike chassis, weighs 130lbs and will. not. budge. when sprinting. 2) All the contact points are adjustable without tools, able to fit children or giants all the same. 3) Zero maintenance besides wiping down the enclosure. There's no chain to lube or replace when it gets worn. There's no chainrings or cassettes to wear out. 4) Integrated phone, tablet and bottle holders in locations that make sense for an indoor bike. USB ports for said phone and/or tablet. 5) Customizable shifting and gearing...up to 50 gears. 6) It's literally silent. 7) 50lb flywheel...it's the best feeling indoor training solution, better than a Lemond Revolution. 8) I train indoors a lot and there is no preventing corrosion on a regular bike. I currently own a generic aluminum shitbike and it is going to literally disintegrate around the bottom bracket after 4.5 years of use. I can't even adjust the limits on the FD because the screws have been replaced by rust that is shaped like a screw. Every single brazed-on piece is corroding, causing the paint to bubble. The StagesBike is made out of stainless steel.
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TobinHatesYou posted:It's a better experience than riding a bike slapped on a trainer. So n+1 in your case unless your parents use it. I could see getting one if my wife used it like e. Pilot. nwin fucked around with this message at 12:16 on Jan 16, 2021 |
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MARK II A bit bigger, longer bolts and some carpet spikes on the bottom. Not going anywhere! Now I can fit my fan in front when I ride and hit my body and face and not just freeze my toes off! (don't yell at me)
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Jan 18, 2021 19:12
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You're going to want to turn that block around I think
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Vando posted:You're going to want to turn that block around I think Nope. He's good. There is nothing pushing him forward. Gravity is resolved perpendicular down to the floor. Pedaling produces an opposite effect vertically, it is acting to lift the bike and rotate counter clockwise from our viewpoint. Of course if he lunges forward, there could be a problem. Or maybe my analysis is wrong.
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Cat rear end Trophy posted:Nope. He's good. There is nothing pushing him forward. Gravity is resolved perpendicular down to the floor. Pedaling produces an opposite effect vertically, it is acting to lift the bike and rotate counter clockwise from our viewpoint. Subtle never done a big sprint on a trainer post.
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Cat rear end Trophy posted:Nope. He's good. There is nothing pushing him forward. Gravity is resolved perpendicular down to the floor. Pedaling produces an opposite effect vertically, it is acting to lift the bike and rotate counter clockwise from our viewpoint. Thank you. Additionally, I tested stability by balancing my hips on the handlebars and leaning over almost horizontally, it's not going anywhere unless I can simultaneously lift the front and the back.
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These tests you're doing for stability aren't putting the same forces on the bike/trainer/block that a hard effort would produce. Version 2.0 is a step in the right direction. Keep at it.
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At the most pessimistic, I'm confident that If I do begin putting loads on it that will cause it to become unstable, I will notice before it goes out from under me. I'll let you all know if anything changes.
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Can you at least post your rides here just to assuage our worries?
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First ride in Zwift. Did a full sprint and nearly threw up in my sink. Man my cardio is hosed.
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rngd in the womb posted:Can you at least post your rides here just to assuage our worries? For real? Either way, my zwift profile is in my post history in this thread. Friend me up, let's ride! If you're lucky I'll crash in front of you! Edit: I'm training from the opposite direction of the above poster. My cardio is pretty good, my bike muscles are catching up!
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Cat rear end Trophy posted:Nope. He's good. There is nothing pushing him forward. Gravity is resolved perpendicular down to the floor. Pedaling produces an opposite effect vertically, it is acting to lift the bike and rotate counter clockwise from our viewpoint. Before I put 120lbs of sandbags on my trainer’s legs, it would walk forward almost 2ft in a 15 second max sprint. I don’t think he’s in danger of much trainer movement if he’s just doing aerobic efforts. However square stand that isn’t locked in place isn’t ideal. If he moves the bars at all, he’s going to damage the floor. — Also a slightly off-center fan position is optimal for blowing air across your torso rather than just smashing air into it perpendicularly. TobinHatesYou fucked around with this message at 14:10 on Jan 19, 2021 |
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Hi, instead of building your own, why don't you just buy something like this for $9: https://www.amazon.com/bike-trainer-front-wheel-block/s?k=bike+trainer+front+wheel+block
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Shadowhand00 posted:Hi, instead of building your own, why don't you just buy something like this for $9: He doesn't have his front wheel on because there's not space to have both the front wheel and the fan in front of the bike. I would probably just move the fan over and leave the front wheel on but if he's gonna keep it how it is it seems like a good idea to affix one of these to the block, https://www.amazon.com/s?k=Quick+Release+Fork+Mount+Bike+Block+135&i=sporting&ref=nb_sb_noss or get a pedestal fan so there's room for a fan and the front wheel. Dren fucked around with this message at 20:12 on Jan 19, 2021 |
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Shadowhand00 posted:Hi, instead of building your own, why don't you just buy something like this for $9:
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We still on this OSHA kick? Just wait to see if he stops posting and assume he died.
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Dren posted:He doesn't have his front wheel on because there's not space to have both the front wheel and the fan in front of the bike. I would probably just move the fan over and leave the front wheel on but if he's gonna keep it how it is it seems like a good idea to affix one of these to the block, https://www.amazon.com/s?k=Quick+Release+Fork+Mount+Bike+Block+135&i=sporting&ref=nb_sb_noss or get a pedestal fan so there's room for a fan and the front wheel. The fourth one down is exactly what I have.
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Is there a trick with Zwift to improve hill climb performance with a wheel on trainer? I've been pushing myself a bit more during the tour de zwift, however the sadists there seem to think every route requires 15+ minutes of climbing an incline at 4 mph. I have been doing decent keeping up with groups at ~250W, but as soon as the grade kicks in I slow to a crawl and people I've passed whiz right by me up the hill. I have a friend with a smart trainer who tells me it sort of does the same thing to him there too so I'm hopeful there's some slider or setting that I can adjust to make the hill climb a bit more tolerable.
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Partycat posted:Is there a trick with Zwift to improve hill climb performance with a wheel on trainer? Depends on what you're asking. If you have a "smart" wheel-on trainer, like a Kickr Snap, and you're finding that the resistance is ramping up too much on climbs, you can lower the "trainer difficulty" slider in the Zwift settings window. At max, this is supposed to mimic the resistance at given grade. Ex: a 6% grade would feel like a 6% grade. At half way, a 6% grade would feel like a 3% grade. When off, a 6% grade feels the same as a flat road, like it would on a "dumb" trainer. Note that that's just what you'd "feel" at the pedals, not the speed your avatar is traveling. In Zwift, your power, weight, and grade of the road are the biggest factors in how fast you move. Bike and wheel choice (some bikes are better at flat roads, or hills, or gravel), road surface and whether you're in a pack or drafting, make up the rest. If what you're saying is that you're doing 250W and you start getting passed once you hit a hill, it's because the number that matters when climbing is W/kg. If you're doing 250W and weigh 100kg, and the other rider is doing 250W and "weighs" 50kg, their 5W/kg is going to blow past your 2.5W/kg. The rider list on the right shows these next under the name of each rider, so you can see what others are doing. If this is the problem, you're going to have to put out more power, tell Zwift you weigh less, or both.
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spoof posted:Depends on what you're asking. The Orange County Professional Indoor Cycling Team approves of this method.
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Does an ERG mode workout at a single power level the whole time hurt more than an outdoor effort of the same duration and average wattage? It sure feels that way to me.
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You can't get micro rests in erg mode the way you would with a 'normal' average power output, also it may feel harder if you're someone who finds it hard to change position while at a set power.
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The main one for me is that it's much less fun than riding your bike outside
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MrL_JaKiri posted:The main one for me is that it's much less fun than riding your bike outside agree. I should’ve clarified that by “harder” I meant my legs hurt more when I was finished the ERG mode effort.
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250W is also a pretty fast group ride...if someone is doing 250W in the blob, the people at the front are probably doing >300W. On flat ground, you have the benefit of the draft. When the road tilts up, your pace slows, the draft effect diminishes and you'll have to increase your power to keep up even before taking into account power-to-weight differences.
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Dren posted:Does an ERG mode workout at a single power level the whole time hurt more than an outdoor effort of the same duration and average wattage? It sure feels that way to me. ERG, even at high flywheel speeds is applying a constant braking effect. It feels more like climbing than a flat road, or really it feels like dragging your brakes outdoors. Aside from the lack of micro-rests vando mentioned, you end up elongating your pedal stroke through the bottom and over the top. That will leverage muscles/muscle fibers that maybe aren't as developed as the ones you use more frequently/intensely.
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It might just be the rides I'm signing up for as well. Mostly the frustration has been with the tour de zwift, but I wandered on to the Alpe and committed myself to it before I realized how long I was going to be there spinning along at 3 mph, with pretty much the same results. I'll try and mind the W/kg next time to see how that looks. It sure feels like anyone out there can breeze right by me when I'm on an incline, and I find it rather discouraging. Trying to bust rear end to keep up with whatever position I'm in or pod I'm with is the motivator and it's just gone in those cases.
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Bear in mind that it's just a mathematical fact that you're going to see a much larger proportion of riders who are going faster than you than the ones going a similar speed. This is doubly true on climbs as the speed differential is much higher.
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