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Mike_V posted:It's gonna be even better when all the dead weight money of Carpenter and Fowler and whoever else comes off the books next year (I think?) and they'll find some excuse to continue not spending any money. Estimated payroll without options for 2022 is $90m. It's so bad. (Carp, Fowler, CMart, Miller).
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Seems like all those Arizona mayors just want cover to open up Spring Training to fans, but they already don't give a gently caress about having packed bars and restaurants so I don't really understand what they think they're accomplishing
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The Arizona Coyotes allow 4,000 people into their stadium and the Mayor of Glendale (the city in which they play) signed that statement.
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If MLB wants to go full steam ahead I don't see Arizona or Florida stopping them from doing so. The players would have to call bullshit and refuse to report, which is probably the plan because it puts all the PR squarely on the players and when the owners inevitably come around demanding another pay cut they can go "well we wanted to start on time but the union forced us to wait, so now we have to play less games/pay players less money."
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UZR IS BULLSHIT posted:Seems like all those Arizona mayors just want cover to open up Spring Training to fans, but they already don't give a gently caress about having packed bars and restaurants so I don't really understand what they think they're accomplishing I wonder how many of those elected officials have had, shall we say, conversations with team owners about this in the last few weeks all while yelling for months to open things up.
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Spoeank posted:https://twitter.com/ethnicohioan/status/1353840981762854912 Good to see our old friend lolmets hasn't gone anywhere 
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Spoeank posted:https://twitter.com/ethnicohioan/status/1353840981762854912 that's...not what the article says at all? the hedge fund that got hosed was Melvin and Point72 are buying shares in it now, presumably while the price is low
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bawfuls posted:sounds like the union is wising up a bit Does this increase the chances of a strike? Please just go on strike, imo
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I'm too young to remember the 94 strike. When the strike ended, did the players achieve what they were hoping to when they started?
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Yeah they absolutely bodied ownership and prevented a hard salary cap, which was the thing owners were hardline for in the first place Then they rolled over and coughed up the CBT a few years later
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maybe it's just my media consumption, but it seems even the mainstream sports press, such as it exists, is far more pro-labor and anti-owner than it was in '94, and while i suppose there is also a screeching right-wing cultural outrage machine, i think more people than owners expect would side with the players. whether that has any effect, who's to say-- sports from a business standpoint are in unprecedented ground and so much money is tied to TV deals, but i think owners who are expecting the general public to uniformly turn against "greedy players" are going to have a harder time when fans are genuinely pissed that they are not even trying to win and it's apparent even to sports radio mutants that owners are being brazen and perverse with their finances.
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R.D. Mangles posted:maybe it's just my media consumption, but it seems even the mainstream sports press, such as it exists, is far more pro-labor and anti-owner than it was in '94, and while i suppose there is also a screeching right-wing cultural outrage machine, i think more people than owners expect would side with the players. whether that has any effect, who's to say-- sports from a business standpoint are in unprecedented ground and so much money is tied to TV deals, but i think owners who are expecting the general public to uniformly turn against "greedy players" are going to have a harder time when fans are genuinely pissed that they are not even trying to win and it's apparent even to sports radio mutants that owners are being brazen and perverse with their finances. I would agree with this. The grifting among the wealthy class for every last surplus dollar has become prevalent enough in other aspects of society that people will get mad it’s appearing even in their “escape” Maybe this is too optimistic a view but I’ve been surprised by how things have shaken out in other places so I wouldn’t be surprised if there’s a pro labor tack this time around
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God drat Madison Cawthorn didn't even get to hold the title of 'most embarrassing signature' for one week. It is very difficult to care about baseball even casually anymore. Between ownership fuckery and COVID fuckery it's been a real chore to keep up, before even getting started with how lovely my team is every year.
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quote:Streaming Orioles games: For years, local fans have complained that the Orioles didn’t stream their games. Now, MASN has announced plans to launch “its owned and operated dedicated sports media app.” Cool, cool, finally. quote:MASN will stream all of the Orioles and Nationals games it televises “by using the new MASN app and authenticating via TV provider log-in.” gently caress
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R.D. Mangles posted:maybe it's just my media consumption, but it seems even the mainstream sports press, such as it exists, is far more pro-labor and anti-owner than it was in '94, and while i suppose there is also a screeching right-wing cultural outrage machine, i think more people than owners expect would side with the players. whether that has any effect, who's to say-- sports from a business standpoint are in unprecedented ground and so much money is tied to TV deals, but i think owners who are expecting the general public to uniformly turn against "greedy players" are going to have a harder time when fans are genuinely pissed that they are not even trying to win and it's apparent even to sports radio mutants that owners are being brazen and perverse with their finances. This is a good post. I can’t predict how Pittsburgh sports media will respond. It’s a little bit unique in that Nutting is universally hated, so even the reactionary bloc on sports radio wouldn’t just blatantly side with owners. But there’s also a prevalent belief that “MLB is broken” with accompanying calls for a “cap and floor” which the owners will obviously support. So we’ll see
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Vernacular posted:Please just go on strike, imo This but workers in every industry
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Roflex posted:Cool, cool, finally. Getting rid of arcane blackout rules would solve this
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GalacticAcid posted:But there’s also a prevalent belief that “MLB is broken” with accompanying calls for a “cap and floor” which the owners will obviously support. So we’ll see
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I remember one of the conversations around the 94 strike (at least in Chicago) was about Ryne Sandberg's 4/$28m extension for 1992, a year he put up 7.4 fWAR.
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more falafel please posted:I remember one of the conversations around the 94 strike (at least in Chicago) was about Ryne Sandberg's 4/$28m extension for 1992, a year he put up 7.4 fWAR. Which made him the second highest paid player in the league behind only Bobby Bonilla
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I've been annoyed by the launch angle "revolution" for awhile now. I feel like it's an over simplification attempting to describe the changing priorities of teams based on the juiced ball and front office nerds saying we need to hit more home runs strikeouts be damned and is less an actual thing that hitters recently discovered. Anyways I came across this poor quality interview of Votto talking about it and I think he sums it up really well, thought people might be interested in it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nxd7M4wRiuE As always Votto rules.
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I’ve always loved Donaldson’s approach of rotational hitting where you’re actively rotating your shoulders and hips to get to the ball and hit the snot out of the ball. You really have to understand your body and your swing to make it work though. I’ll see if I can dig out the clip because it really is a great concept
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Carlosologist posted:I’ve always loved Donaldson’s approach of rotational hitting where you’re actively rotating your shoulders and hips to get to the ball and hit the snot out of the ball. You really have to understand your body and your swing to make it work though. I’ll see if I can dig out the clip because it really is a great concept https://youtu.be/NyWNCrxVzPU "You tell him 'no.'" Edit: this video is literally why I was happy when he came to the Twins, and I've been nothing but happy since, even with injuries.
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R.D. Mangles posted:maybe it's just my media consumption, but it seems even the mainstream sports press, such as it exists, is far more pro-labor and anti-owner than it was in '94, and while i suppose there is also a screeching right-wing cultural outrage machine, i think more people than owners expect would side with the players. whether that has any effect, who's to say-- sports from a business standpoint are in unprecedented ground and so much money is tied to TV deals, but i think owners who are expecting the general public to uniformly turn against "greedy players" are going to have a harder time when fans are genuinely pissed that they are not even trying to win and it's apparent even to sports radio mutants that owners are being brazen and perverse with their finances. Never underestimate the deep cultural ties Americans have with Crab Mentality. The general population is probably more sympathetic to labor than anytime in the last 30 years, NL Central fans even more so, but "I get hosed everyday at my job too" is a weird mental hurdle for way too many people.
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https://twitter.com/BNightengale/status/1354082409449480199 Uncle Stevie!?
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rickiep00h posted:https://youtu.be/NyWNCrxVzPU Guy is ruthless lmao. It sucks he left the Jays with a bad taste in his mouth, game 3 of the 2016 alds was the best game I've ever been to and his winning run owned.
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https://twitter.com/NotMrTibbs/status/1354069290207506435?s=19 Put Sammy in the fuckin HOF, assholes. Also Sheffield and Helton.
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Carlosologist posted:I’ve always loved Donaldson’s approach of rotational hitting where you’re actively rotating your shoulders and hips to get to the ball and hit the snot out of the ball. You really have to understand your body and your swing to make it work though. I’ll see if I can dig out the clip because it really is a great concept rickiep00h posted:https://youtu.be/NyWNCrxVzPU Donaldson hits the nail on the head in that video, I don't think Votto is disagreeing with him just pointing out that hitting a flat line drive or a ground ball isn't necessarily the wrong thing to do. Teaching young players to always try to hit a fly ball is not good hitting and for the majority isn't going to lead to good results as they aren't strong enough to muscle a fly out 400+ feet for a home run.
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BigBallChunkyTime posted:https://twitter.com/NotMrTibbs/status/1354069290207506435?s=19 Why is Schilling so close? Kinda annoying.
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Man I just don't see giving Bauer ace money. Like I'd take him on the Giants for 4/80 or 5/100 even, I get it he's the best pitcher in free agency this year, but for Max Scherzer money? No thanks.
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Anyway who's excited for the Hall of Fame to elect absolutely no one today?
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BigBallChunkyTime posted:https://twitter.com/NotMrTibbs/status/1354069290207506435?s=19 If schilling gets in and no one else you might as well close the hall and start over
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Helton should be unanimous lmao What is wrong with these people Why do people who hate baseball cover it ?
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euphronius posted:If schilling gets in and no one else you might as well close the hall and start over He's gonna have a MAGA hat on his plaque.
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