Ghost Leviathan posted:Pacific Rim is more a Hollywood attempt at a giant robot movie that happens to use kaiju as the names for the monsters they fight. The themes get very different when the kaiju are explicitly the antagonists fought on equal level by the protagonists, rather than nigh-incomprehensible forces of nature. (Evangeleon is probably the main outlier here, but that does a lot of things differently) Yeah, it's more like Mazinger than any godziller film.
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The fact that giant robots have to be purposely built makes them much more fraught than giant monsters as a story convention. For example, look at the classical Giant Robot show, Mazinger Z. Here, the military is helpless against the invasion of Dr. Hell. Dr. Hell is an archeologist (!!) whose giant robots are the unearthed war machines of the ancient past. Opposing him are a teenage biker, the teenager's buddies, and the local electric company. They fight back with a new, unduplicable giant robot that can't be matched by Dr. Hell's relics. As it is, it's a story about a nontraditional Japanese teenager and his buddies fighting against people who are trying to bring back the past. But you get a very different story if you play with the details. Consider if, instead of a teenager working for the electric company, the lead was an adult soldier. Or if instead of being a unique super hero, the Mazinger was massed produced military asset. Or if instead of being distinct war machines lead by a verbose wannabe fascist, the villains were generic monsters lead by incommunicable aliens. It can get pretty nationalist pretty quick. Schwarzwald fucked around with this message at 22:42 on Jan 26, 2021 |
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Good point keep talkin posted:Had baiju once which was remarkably smooth tasting You have to be the only person to have ever felt this way about baijiu
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X-Ray Pecs posted:... For sure: I didn't mean to say that the action sequences in Pacific Rim are bad in and of itself, but that I couldn't really separate how I felt about them apart from the overall story. SuperMechagodzilla posted:The kaiju references in Colossal are pretty much totally parody, so you're right there. I really appreciate this thoughtfully pan-optic answer.
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X-Ray Pecs posted:There are also complaints that Pacific Rim keeps the wack balance of way too much boring human story vs robots fighting
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fenix down posted:This was my problem with Robot Jox as well. Robot Jox at least concludes its human stories in a satisfying way.
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I sincerely love the end of Pacific Rim because it's more of a friendship than a fuckship.
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Jan 27, 2021 02:22
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CelticPredator posted:I sincerely love the end of Pacific Rim because it's more of a friendship than a fuckship. Where is this fuckship and are the tickets expensive?
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Jan 27, 2021 02:50
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It's postponed for now, but they're not too bad. 69 bucks.
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Jan 27, 2021 02:56
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The real friendship was the big lizards we punched along the way
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Jan 27, 2021 02:59
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Fuckships are full of seamen.
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Fuckships are meant to fly-ay
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CelticPredator posted:It's postponed for now, but they're not too bad. 69 bucks. Nice.
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DeimosRising posted:You have to be the only person to have ever felt this way about baijiu Yeah idk. Maybe it was fancy
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Jan 27, 2021 03:42
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Kaiju drinkin' baijiu.
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FreudianSlippers posted:Fuckships are full of seamen. S-tier post/username combo.
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I've been just watching poo poo on Netflix that isn't too taxing on the brain because my brain is diarrhea lately and I can't engage with poo poo other than middlebrow time fillers. Anyway I was not expecting Mahershala Ali to be one of the stars of The 4400.
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CPL593H posted:I've been just watching poo poo on Netflix that isn't too taxing on the brain because my brain is diarrhea lately and I can't engage with poo poo other than middlebrow time fillers. Anyway I was not expecting Mahershala Ali to be one of the stars of The 4400. Goddamn, I remember watching that show when it first aired and the only character I remember finding at all interesting or compelling was the black guy. But I haven't had cause to think about The 4400 since then so I never put it together that he was Mahershala Ali
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Gripweed posted:Goddamn, I remember watching that show when it first aired and the only character I remember finding at all interesting or compelling was the black guy. But I haven't had cause to think about The 4400 since then so I never put it together that he was Mahershala Ali The entire show just oozes mid-2000s basic cable sci-fi. Unsurprisingly, Ali is way better than the material and anything anyone else is doing. Everybody has to start somewhere I suppose.
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:What the comparison to GxMG illustrates is that Pacific Rim is best understood as the 30th installment of some ancient franchise that never actually existed. Like if the first Bond film was Die Another Day. This works a lot, but is also a surprisingly common formula, Venture Bros comes to mind as being basically the sequel to a show that never existed. There's even an episode explicitly presented as the middle part of a trilogy we never see the first or last part of outside of recaps and previews.
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posting this here too. havent done a shoot in a bit.        This figure is sick af. ironic buying toys from it though.
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CPL593H posted:The entire show just oozes mid-2000s basic cable sci-fi. Unsurprisingly, Ali is way better than the material and anything anyone else is doing. Everybody has to start somewhere I suppose. I noticed him first in Buffy, where he was a flunky in the first episode of season three and seemed to promote himself to the main bad guy for the season, only to end the episode becoming the flunky for the real main bad guy.
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Grendels Dad posted:I noticed him first in Buffy, where he was a flunky in the first episode of season three and seemed to promote himself to the main bad guy for the season, only to end the episode becoming the flunky for the real main bad guy. Yeah thats a completely diff actor entirely. He was never on that show.
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All this talk about Pacific Rim reminded me of one of the funniest bits of liberal film discourse; people had to prove Pacific Rim was feminist, but because Mako Mori never talks to another woman in the film it couldn't pass the Bechdel Test, so they made up the Mako Mori test, which says a movie is feminist if a female character gets a complete emotional arc.
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Jan 27, 2021 14:39
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That was one guy. One horrible sexual assaulter guy.
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banned from Starbucks posted:Yeah thats a completely diff actor entirely. He was never on that show. gently caress, so it was.
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Jan 27, 2021 14:45
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The entire point of the Bechdel test is that do it once. You hear about the test, you think about all the movies you've seen, and are surprised by how few pass it. Then you continue on to have thoughts about how women are presented in movies, and so on. You can not use it to judge an individual movie's feminismity
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CelticPredator posted:posting this here too. havent done a shoot in a bit. that's sweet as hell
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X-Ray Pecs posted:All this talk about Pacific Rim reminded me of one of the funniest bits of liberal film discourse; people had to prove Pacific Rim was feminist, but because Mako Mori never talks to another woman in the film it couldn't pass the Bechdel Test, so they made up the Mako Mori test, which says a movie is feminist if a female character gets a complete emotional arc. this post sucks. you've ruined the next few pages of this thread you rear end in a top hat
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Jan 27, 2021 14:57
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Why ain't thar kissin in movies no more
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FunkyAl posted:Why ain't thar kissin in movies no more Um because kissing is gross??
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FunkyAl posted:Why ain't thar kissin in movies no more Every movie now is about the search for surrogate parents.
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FunkyAl posted:Why ain't thar kissin in movies no more Horny is dead Bury it
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FunkyAl posted:Why ain't thar kissin in movies no more It's important to stop glorifying such things if we really want to end sex
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Kissing is hard to fake. Like, you actually have to swap spit with the other actor and what if they're kinda gross? At least with a sex scene you can just kinda rub up against each other and cut it together later to make it convincing.
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Jan 27, 2021 15:41
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FunkyAl posted:Why ain't thar kissin in movies no more
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BWOOOOOM BWOOOOOM 
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I will never not get super jazzed anytime I see a wild lizard. I don't care if it's an iguana laying in a tree in Florida or a lil guy scurrying across the sidewalk in front of me in LA, it's always a delight. The closest thing NYC is rats, though 
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FunkyAl posted:Why ain't thar kissin in movies no more When Ebert died it was stipulated in his will that films could no longer have even the barest hint of eroticism if he wasn't around to see it.
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Flying Zamboni posted:When Ebert died it was stipulated in his will that films could no longer have even the barest hint of eroticism if he wasn't around to see it. Checks out. One hardly sees naked breasts in films these days
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