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OMGVBFLOL posted:what's the best way to score used tools i couldn't afford new? craigslist? estate sales? Craigslist is dicey because of tool thieves, FB marketplace is good, a reputable pawn shop that verifies serial numbers is decent.
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OMGVBFLOL posted:what's the best way to score used tools i couldn't afford new? craigslist? estate sales? I'll look at sold auctions on ebay for what I'm after to see if lowest prices are in ballpark for what I'm trying to pay, and if so I'll save searches refined for auction only and will "watch" the ones I'm interested in, and when ebay notifies me 15 min from auction close I'll set an alarm on my phone for a couple minutes before and put in what I'm trying to pay for my max bid right before it ends. And I do that til I get what I'm after I also have found sweet deals at estate / garage sales, and indirectly on Craigslist by looking at the guys other poo poo he's got in his garage and asking about it
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Jan 27, 2021 07:20
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OfferUp is full of questionable sellers too. you can choose to be bothered by buying tools stolen from home depot...or just not
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Jan 27, 2021 08:05
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BraveUlysses posted:OfferUp is full of questionable sellers too. i would prefer to buy tools stolen from a big box store, actually. i'd even consider paying a premium for it
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Jan 27, 2021 08:24
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OMGVBFLOL posted:i would prefer to buy tools stolen from a big box store, actually. i'd even consider paying a premium for it Only Home Depot.
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Jan 27, 2021 15:06
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BraveUlysses posted:OfferUp is full of questionable sellers too. I'm not bothered by tools stolen from retailers, I'm bothered by tools stolen from tradesmen, who rely on those tools to make a living.
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Jan 27, 2021 15:13
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sharkytm posted:Only Home Depot. Menards seems to have some fuckers at the top.
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OMGVBFLOL posted:what's the best way to score used tools i couldn't afford new? craigslist? estate sales? I've got a local auction site that... it's not exclusively estate sales, but a lot of estate sales, plus other rando auctions. And the randos are sometimes gold. Tonight I'm bidding on a Hilti 3-driver kit and a Hilti reciprocating saw and shop light kit with no batteries. There are a ton of filled tool boxes being sold and stuff, it's legit, but it's a weird grab bag. Last night a 45' long industrial edge banding machine that's got to be thousands of pounds with a lot of Allen Bradley controls and 3 phase motors sold for $65. 
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BraveUlysses posted:OfferUp is full of questionable sellers too. I watched a guy steal an armload of Milwaukee tools just this year. Amazing, just walked to the door in the garden section while three orange aprons asked the dumbest questions (did you pay for those?) and then ran from there. It was a sight. They were completely helpless and for sure that guy got away with it.
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Jan 27, 2021 16:27
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Elviscat posted:Yeah, Makita, Milwaukee and Makita all have great tools, it's very much once you're bought into an ecosystem you're stuck there. If someone broke in and stole all my tools and batteries tonight I'd probably switch to Milwaukee, though I like Makita for their unique engineering, and not having their brand absorbed by one of the global tool hegemonies. We do this on the industrial side and, if you ever drive by an industrial wholesaler/tool place that has an open house and you see the Dewalt/Milwaukee banner/truck there, it might be worth your time to talk to the rep. For example, I had a client that has a mix-mash of Milwaukee, dewalt, Bosch, and even some corded tools. Basically took everything that he had and gave him brand new Milwaukee equiv of everything. I think he had to buy 1-2 items (at a deal price for that matter) but basically all new everything for next to nothing. It is a program that is more directed to the trades and large clients, BUT, I can't see why they wouldn't do it for a home guy if he had enough. The field reps job is to displace competitors and that's a very effective way to do it.
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Jan 27, 2021 16:35
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StormDrain posted:Can I get more color on the Makita trimmer? 18v or 36v? I'm coming from a corded one that was donated to me by my brother in law when they moved like a decade ago, it was never good, but always worked well enough, however now is fully busted. I may get the trimmer first and wait for my gas mower to die fully or get worse first. Or maybe just secure a promise that my wife will use an electric one. I've got the 36v one and my review is: it's dope. I'll never touch a gas trimmer again.
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Jan 27, 2021 17:56
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I finally bought an oscillating multitool (Milwaukee M12). For the longest time, I didn't know what I'd use it for, now it's obvious. I also violated the "don't buy cheap consumables" rule, because I know nothing about the blades and 28 blades for 28 bucks sounded better than 5 blades for $40.
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Krakkles posted:I finally bought an oscillating multitool (Milwaukee M12). For the longest time, I didn't know what I'd use it for, now it's obvious. That's probably not a bad way to start. Blades are super variable, dependent on what you're cutting. Wood blades can last a long time, or dull quickly, seemingly at random. Hitting nails in the wood will knock teeth off in a hurry. The nice thing is that even dull blades work, just with more smoke and smell.  Smooth blades are good for caulk removal and stuff. I haven't found a blade that really stands above the others, I've tried bimetal and carbide blades and the work, just not so much better than the cheapos to be worth the price difference. Basically  you did fine.
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Jan 27, 2021 18:54
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That makes me feel better, thank you! The stuff I'm planning to cut in the short term is all plastic, so I don't anticipate a lot of problems. Lots of smoke and smell, no matter what.
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Jan 27, 2021 19:23
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I use the multi tool a lot when installing laminate floors. Good for cutting door frames to fit floor and for notching out pieces to fit around corners.
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Jan 27, 2021 19:28
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slidebite posted:Keep in mind that manufacturers will sometimes run promos where they will "switch you over" to their ecosystem. Oh yeah, I picked up a free 3.0Ah battery with a deeply discounted circular saw from a DeWalt rep at Lowes awhile back. I say I'd only switch over if all my stuff disappeared because I fo really like my DeWalt tools, and with my recent purchase I have 1 3Ah, 1 4Ah and 2 5Ah batteries. My old impact driver and 2 cheap "6Ah" knockoff batteries are getting given away.
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Krakkles posted:I finally bought an oscillating multitool (Milwaukee M12). For the longest time, I didn't know what I'd use it for, now it's obvious. Multitool is one of those things that once you have it, you wonder how you lived without it.
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Ok, so, the multitool is good for removing grout. What else?
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Jan 27, 2021 22:09
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Flush cutting shims, cutting square holes in drywall, cutting drywall along center of stud for patches. Getting awkward cuts in corners, squarely finishing corners.
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Jan 27, 2021 22:13
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Cool cool. Was considering getting one, now I know what else they can be used for!
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Jan 27, 2021 22:14
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It's one of those things you can live without generally, like most of the things I listed can be done with a utility knife, but it makes all of them done faster and usually more accurately. And sometimes for like, cutting the bottom of door trim to slide flooring under, it's hard to picture how else to do it, and this thing just does it and it's obvious it's the right tool.
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Jan 27, 2021 22:18
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Thanks mate. I'm just a DIYer who hasn't needed one yet but I do need to regrout a tub soon so...
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Jan 27, 2021 22:24
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You could also attach a steak knife to one. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dN2jhnWNyxs&t=284s
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You gotta show the final review: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9qN9LIChh4
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Jan 27, 2021 23:22
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Specific reason I bought it: I need to cut plastic deep inside a double-DIN slot in the dash. Dremel would work but would be a lot harder to get where I need it.
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Jan 27, 2021 23:26
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StormDrain posted:Flush cutting shims, cutting square holes in drywall, cutting drywall along center of stud for patches. Getting awkward cuts in corners, squarely finishing corners. Yeah, flush cutting shims is great.
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Krakkles posted:Specific reason I bought it: I need to cut plastic deep inside a double-DIN slot in the dash. Dremel would work but would be a lot harder to get where I need it. Whenever I use a dremel to do that exact job with the straight bit it likes to melt the plastic as it goes along.
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[quote=" post="512015283"] Can I get more color on the Makita trimmer? 18v or 36v? I'm coming from a corded one that was donated to me by my brother in law when they moved like a decade ago, it was never good, but always worked well enough, however now is fully busted. I may get the trimmer first and wait for my gas mower to die fully or get worse first. Or maybe just secure a promise that my wife will use an electric one. [/quote] I have the previous generation of this brushless 18v string trimmer and it’s great for my small backyard. I can get roughly 45 minutes of trimming out of a 3 amp hour battery. I haven’t tried using it against any woody brush though, and I expect I would need an interchangeable head with the brush knives if I were dealing with woods and not a lawn, similar to the 36v trimmer model with interchangeable attachments like cultivator head. Might be able to do brush knives with the 18v model, just haven’t tried finding ones that fit because I’m just dealing with grass and weeds. I will say the 36v Makita chainsaw is pretty great though! I’ve used it to buck several hardwood trees, clear 2’ ash stumps, and it’s performed fantastically, even in a light November drizzle. It does churn through batteries, but a dual charger and 2 sets of 5 AH batteries kept me running pretty well last time I needed it for something big
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I can add that my 36v Makita trimmer (split shaft) can trim a full acre of orchard on the two 5.0AH batts.
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OSU_Matthew posted:I’m on team teal as well and pulled the trigger on an electric mower earlier this year. Really wanted the Makita, but couldn’t justify the price so I picked up a Kobalt 80v Brushless push mower on end of season clearance for ~250$. Eventually picked up another battery and blower for 115$ on another sale. I've been pretty happy with my Kobalt mower, blower, chainsaw, and string-trimmer. Lowe's is pretty good about swapping out anything that's broken, but if you ever need replacement parts for some reason don't bother calling Kobalt, just go straight to Greenworks (the manufacturer). I needed a handle knob for a display I bought and Kobalt said my only option was to take the whole thing back to the store for an exchange. Greenworks mailed me a pair for free.
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I have this bamboo wall covering stuff in our bedroom - its basically a woven, pressed wood panel, too thick to cut with any sort of sheers or knife and too thin to be cut with a circ saw or sawzall I used a osculating tool to cut the holes in it for switch boxes and windows - I set up some fences for it out of aluminum stock I had and went to town - I got a bi-metal blade for it and I actually used it to demo a fence by plunging it in to the wood and thru the head of a screw - I havent used it in a year, but I know I have it, and I know its capabilities.
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Cat Hatter posted:I've been pretty happy with my Kobalt mower, blower, chainsaw, and string-trimmer. Lowe's is pretty good about swapping out anything that's broken, but if you ever need replacement parts for some reason don't bother calling Kobalt, just go straight to Greenworks (the manufacturer). I needed a handle knob for a display I bought and Kobalt said my only option was to take the whole thing back to the store for an exchange. Greenworks mailed me a pair for free. That was my other reason I bought into the Kobalt lawn ecosystem, was that I read the 80v batteries are compatible across greenworks’ brands with a slight modification to a rail stop on the plastic housing of the battery. Figure the more ubiquitous, the cheaper the replacement
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OSU_Matthew posted:That was my other reason I bought into the Kobalt lawn ecosystem, was that I read the 80v batteries are compatible across greenworks’ brands with a slight modification to a rail stop on the plastic housing of the battery. Figure the more ubiquitous, the cheaper the replacement Funny story about that...  Running a 3+ pound lithium battery through a table-saw is probably more at home in the OSHA thread. First Kobalt tool I bought was a chainsaw I didn't need only because I got a deal I couldn't pass up when I pointed out that the saw someone had returned had a Greenworks battery jammed halfway into it with tool marks from where the previous owner had unsuccessfully tried to pry it back out. The store won in the end though because I was so impressed with the saw I decided to replace most of the rest of my gas equipment.
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Cat Hatter posted:Funny story about that... They just sold it to you like that? Wtf.
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Elviscat posted:They just sold it to you like that? Wtf. I worked there at the time and right after I got done yelling at the returns desk for not looking inside the box before returning it I went and twisted a manager's arm into selling it to me for super cheap on the basis of "do you really want to pay me to fix this and then have to try and sell a used chainsaw with no battery, or would you rather just accept your losses now?"
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I’m impressed! How’d you get the battery out of there? And were you able to modify to get it working with the saw?
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He went on to buy $1,000 worth of additional tools and a table saw to extract and use the battery he got at a discount.
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Tools! - buying $300 in tools to save $30 on a $100 tool.
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casque posted:It was a simple misunderstanding that got blown out of proportion. https://www.denverpost.com/2006/02/09/bowl-prank-turns-car-into-superdome/ I've heard that the same gas supplier once built a new store because a disgruntled employee opened up some bottles while closing on a Friday, and the place blew up over the weekend.
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Not quite, but also not entirely inaccurate. I got the battery out by wiggling it back and forth with a pair of screwdrivers until I could get a good grip on it by hand. The only difference between a Kobalt and 80v Greenworks battery is the pair of slots closer to the bottom are at a slightly different place. I think it was two passes down the table-saw per side to enlarge the slot to where it would fit. You could probably do it with a Dremel but I would be very hesitant to try without a guide and full control over the cutting depth. Kobalt on the right, both on their side. You can see how the guide channel for the GW is about a quarter inch closer to the centerline of the battery. If I was doing it again, I'd probably temporarily remove that screw during the cutting, just so that if I went too far the saw would be less likely to hit metal and kick.
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