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Artix
Apr 26, 2010

He's finally back,
to kick some tail!
And this time,
he's goin' to jail!
Part 49: Revenge of the Tower of Zosma

That's right baby, it's time for round 2 of everyone's favorite dungeon. Marvel at the sights, take in the puzzles, and embrace the special surprise awaiting anyone foolish enough to get all the way to the bottom.

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Unoriginal One
Aug 5, 2008
I was expecting it to happen here because it didn't happen in the first run through, but the 30 minute timer on the weak flames didn't disappoint.

You can cycle them through a torch to refresh their durations, but it doesn't matter all that much now that you're free of the place.

Kibayasu
Mar 28, 2010

I greatly enjoyed Mizuti explicitly telling the boss to hold on a moment while they had their personally enlightening conversation.

Artix
Apr 26, 2010

He's finally back,
to kick some tail!
And this time,
he's goin' to jail!
Part 50: The Illusory Fortress

Xelha's sidequest takes us to a new and exciting setting of "inside a book" and uh...well, an attempt was made, I guess...?

Cooked Auto
Aug 4, 2007

If you will not serve in combat, you will serve on the firing line!




Gee Xelha's mother, that is an awfully specific and long oath you have there. :raise:

Unoriginal One
Aug 5, 2008
The one upside of the dungeon is that those buggers you fight if you pick the wrong doors can all cough up level 5 spell cards of every element for Xelha and Mizuti, and they go down pretty quickly. Not the worst place to pick up a few extra high-end attack cards.

Artix
Apr 26, 2010

He's finally back,
to kick some tail!
And this time,
he's goin' to jail!
Part 51: Greater Celestial River

The final sidequest takes us back to Nashira and the most important sidequest of all: fishing.

AmiYumi
Oct 10, 2005

I FORGOT TO HAIL KING TORG
It would be so easy to recut like 3/4 of the dialogue in this update into a porn parody of this game. :allears:

C-Euro
Mar 20, 2010

:science:
Soiled Meat
You guys talked about the one knight is probably the same VA as Lyude, but Shorty's Grandmother is definitely the same VA as Lyude's caretaker whose name I can't remember.

E: Gibarkley Shut Up and Fish: Gaiden

C-Euro fucked around with this message at 03:19 on Feb 12, 2021

Artix
Apr 26, 2010

He's finally back,
to kick some tail!
And this time,
he's goin' to jail!
Part 52: The Plan

We've gone through everyone's quests, which means it's time for the main event. And boy, do they have a doozy of a plan to get into Cor Hydrae.

Artix
Apr 26, 2010

He's finally back,
to kick some tail!
And this time,
he's goin' to jail!
Part 53: Cor Hydrae Castle (Part 1)

I don't blame anyone who was overwhelmed by how incredible last video's plan was, but don't stop now because we're about to face a foe far scarier than any boss the game can throw at us: The Level Designer.

C-Euro
Mar 20, 2010

:science:
Soiled Meat
I'm a big fan of the giant flail-wielding demon who dropped a bundle of straw when you killed it. Truly the embodiment of chaos.

Kibayasu
Mar 28, 2010

Really how could a JRPG end in anything else except giant lasers and a teleport maze.

Artix
Apr 26, 2010

He's finally back,
to kick some tail!
And this time,
he's goin' to jail!
Part 54: Cor Hydrae Castle (Part 2)

The second half of Cor Hydrae is about as exciting as the first half, thankfully with 100% less teleporter mazes. And our reward for this is...another rehashed God fight. Thanks game, you're the best.

C-Euro
Mar 20, 2010

:science:
Soiled Meat
"Are they going to dump more plot on us?" Fedule bud, at some point you gotta roll with the weird narrative choices in this game. We went through the looking glass long ago.

Also I love how doofy those hand enemies look when they're running around on-screen.

Kibayasu
Mar 28, 2010

Has there ever been an anything where dumping character revelations on the villain at the last second has ever worked well? There's plenty of times where the main character convinces a villain they're doing the wrong thing or breaks through some controlling force just long enough but revealing past secrets just seems to give every villain an excuse to go even crazier.

Rigged Death Trap
Feb 13, 2012

BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP

Yeah it always ends in the villain going into full "sunk costs" mode.
Especially because it always happens when the villain is in a position of power and a few steps temoved from their plans end, so it would be an incredible anticlimax for then to jist stand down.

Artix
Apr 26, 2010

He's finally back,
to kick some tail!
And this time,
he's goin' to jail!
Part 55: The Final Battle

It's Malpercio! In his Final Form™ no less. It's a hard fight that will stomp you if you're not ready for it, and it's a lot of fun to build the kind of decks that can run the damage race with him. It turns out that Big Numbers™ can in fact be a gimmick once the numbers are big and frequent enough.

Alkydere
Jun 7, 2010
Capitol: A building or complex of buildings in which any legislature meets.
Capital: A city designated as a legislative seat by the government or some other authority, often the city in which the government is located; otherwise the most important city within a country or a subdivision of it.



Oh hey, Baiten Kaitos, I remember bouncing off of this game several times when I was younger! And the thread is only 4 pages long, so I'm fairly early in it!

Oh...oh...or no I'm not... Oh well I guess I'll finally get to see the end for once!

Anyways Fedule, I'm so sorry Artix has dragged you through this. Then again I guess he's got to do to others what I did to him with AW:DS. :v:

C-Euro
Mar 20, 2010

:science:
Soiled Meat
There's something to be said about having the final boss of your jRPG be its hardest boss, but Super Malpercio is a house. It can do that weakness shift more than once too!

Also I think the "final boss gives out a bunch of status ailments" move you're thinking of is Retribution from Mithos in Tales of Symphonia? It's the one that's burned into my brain, at least.

Commander Keene
Dec 21, 2016

Faster than the others



Alkydere posted:

Oh hey, Baiten Kaitos, I remember bouncing off of this game several times when I was younger! And the thread is only 4 pages long, so I'm fairly early in it!

Oh...oh...or no I'm not... Oh well I guess I'll finally get to see the end for once!

Anyways Fedule, I'm so sorry Artix has dragged you through this. Then again I guess he's got to do to others what I did to him with AW:DS. :v:
Yeah, this LP started on the LP Beach during that whole kerfuffle with Lowtax last year, and only got cross-posted once SA changed hands.

Unoriginal One
Aug 5, 2008
You can do way, waaaaaaaaaaay more than 4k damage with a good card draw. It's been a long time, but I'm pretty sure it's possible to crack five digits.

This is also the fight to break out the Skull equipment for, if you can manage the Confusion.

Artix
Apr 26, 2010

He's finally back,
to kick some tail!
And this time,
he's goin' to jail!
Part 56: O Mighty Ocean...

And with that, we're done. The ending goes on for way, way too long, the big sendoff scene is completely superfluous, but they nailed the Xelha bit...right up until they didn't, but whatever, it's a JRPG and we all saw that coming from a mile away.

But yeah, that's Baten Kaitos. It's rough in a lot of places, and I kinda wish someone would take another crack at a full-fat RPG like this because most of the egregious design kinks are stuff that we've...solved, for lack of a better word here in 2021. But until then, this is what we have to work with, and I love it all the same. Thanks for watching folks.

Cooked Auto
Aug 4, 2007

If you will not serve in combat, you will serve on the firing line!




How to summarize one part of that video:

Arzaac
Jan 2, 2020


That bit with Geldoblame right at the end is just straight up one of my favorite parts of the game. It's quite possibly the stupidest thing does, but here we are, fighting the disc 1 chump villain who has...possessed the Earth?

Wonderful, 11/10, I love this game with all my heart.

Slaan
Mar 16, 2009



ASHERAH DEMANDS I FEAST, I VOTE FOR A FEAST OF FLESH
This was certainly an ending :psyduck:

I feel like a remake with modern design choices could be good for the game. It has some good choices that were done poorly because of the time it was made. I imagine most of the issues could be fixed

C-Euro
Mar 20, 2010

:science:
Soiled Meat
"The Ice Queens of Wazn" is the section of my address book where I keep all of my ex-girlfriends :v:

Having seen this all again for the first time in 15-some years, it's maybe not quiiiite as good as I remember it, but I agree with the initial assessment that it does more correct than it does wrong. Give me something I haven't seen before and take a big swing at it.

Also yeah they shove a lot into that ending. I've been waiting the entire LP for this update because I felt like I had hallucinated that Geldoblame reveal the first time I saw it, and had to see it again to make sure it was real. On top of everything else, I think all of the End Magnus guardians from the early game referring to Xelha as the "woe-laden child" is supposed to foreshadow that she has some sort of big sacrifice in her future.

E: also worth noting that the Geldoblame "fight" has its own unique music track! Again, why is this in here?

C-Euro fucked around with this message at 22:22 on Feb 26, 2021

AmiYumi
Oct 10, 2005

I FORGOT TO HAIL KING TORG
That ending is like they wanted a “curtain falls, actors come out and bow” scene, but didn’t have the courage to just do it. Like you both mentioned, why were most of those people even there, let alone all together?

Unoriginal One
Aug 5, 2008
Look, someone went to the trouble of making a giant earthen Geldoblame head. They had to shove it in somewhere.

nine-gear crow
Aug 10, 2013
Jesus Christ, Gibari was voiced by Jeff Gedert? So between that, Richard Hawk from Metal Wolf Chaos and the narrator of Ace Combat 04, just much range does this one dude have anyway? Because NONE of them sound like they’re the same person.

Alkydere
Jun 7, 2010
Capitol: A building or complex of buildings in which any legislature meets.
Capital: A city designated as a legislative seat by the government or some other authority, often the city in which the government is located; otherwise the most important city within a country or a subdivision of it.



Finally caught up and now I can say I finally know the (somewhat confused) ending to a game I bounced off of several times. Either because I got bored or because the combat started making me go crosseyed.

Also loved the Into the Breach reference during the second Zosma run. Perhaps Artix should LP that next! :v: (Not that I'd have any idea how anyone would LP that game.)

NGDBSS
Dec 30, 2009






Alkydere posted:

Finally caught up and now I can say I finally know the (somewhat confused) ending to a game I bounced off of several times. Either because I got bored or because the combat started making me go crosseyed.

Also loved the Into the Breach reference during the second Zosma run. Perhaps Artix should LP that next! :v: (Not that I'd have any idea how anyone would LP that game.)
Smite LP'd it back in 2018, actually. (You'll need archives to see the thread.) It's why I bought the game even if I'm bad at it.

Kibayasu
Mar 28, 2010

So did they just want an excuse for Kalas to not be the one to kill Xehla so here's one more boss fight (that was less dangerous than a regular mob at end game). Because a lot of that ending, as goofy as it was, did manage to work.

What a strange game that actually managed to mostly pull it off in a way at the end. A lot of games can actually be pretty good if they just had hours of dungeons shaved off. Glad I saw this one.

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Artix
Apr 26, 2010

He's finally back,
to kick some tail!
And this time,
he's goin' to jail!
Well it took a little longer than I anticipated to get here but we made it to the archive. If you haven't been following along, we've moved on to Tokyo Xanadu, or if Donkey Kong is more your thing I've been playing a romhack called DKC: Unveiled. Thanks for watching, guys!

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