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I wonder what would have happened if the original Ymir hadn’t gotten eaten. Would one daughter have gotten all her powers or would they have still been split three ways? Did they even need to eat her to get her powers? Based on how things work I don’t think so.
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Sjs00 posted:I still don't fully understand 100%; and thats why SNK deserves anime of the decade imo With Zeke in particular, it seems that a low dilution of his spinal fluid "tags" the Eldians who consume it but won't actually trigger a transformation until he commands it. Everyone else who gets transformed immediately does so by consuming (be it through ingestion or injection) a concentrated serum. Ethiser posted:I wonder what would have happened if the original Ymir hadn’t gotten eaten. Would one daughter have gotten all her powers or would they have still been split three ways? Did they even need to eat her to get her powers? Based on how things work I don’t think so. It is entirely possible that the power is only transferred the way it does precisely because the first King Fritz thought it had to do with consuming the spines - which Ymir took as a command. Conspiratiorist fucked around with this message at 20:26 on Feb 4, 2021 |
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My understanding is that Zekes spinal fluid specifically allows for the delayed transformation by screaming. The air drop, wine, and the Titans Zeke brought for the return to Shinganshina were presumably all given his spinal fluid. It seems like otherwise they just transform immediately.
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Sjs00 posted:I still don't fully understand 100%; and thats why SNK deserves anime of the decade imo Apparently zekes spinal fluid works differently than the others. Also I don’t think we know for sure if it’s just pure spinal fluid or some compound, the way Yelena describes it makes me think it’s harder to make than just taking a sample from a shifter.
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Thanks for clearing it up for me I blasted through the manga years ago now and its been a ride. My last questions would be where exactly does the concentrated fluid come from, and who's currently got that ability to produce the concentrated if not Zeke? It would be Historias child with Eren right? And finally if Zeke could use that 'tagging' ability whats to have stopped any and all shifters from having done it? Such as Bert and Ernie and Annie etc. Such a good show would consume again.
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mightygerm posted:Apparently zekes spinal fluid works differently than the others. Also I don’t think we know for sure if it’s just pure spinal fluid or some compound, the way Yelena describes it makes me think it’s harder to make than just taking a sample from a shifter. Yeah, it probably requires more than simple extraction to properly stabilize it for more practical storage. What we do know is that it was a pre-Marleyan method, given Rod Reiss had vials of it from over a hundred years ago. Sjs00 posted:My last questions would be where exactly does the concentrated fluid come from, and who's currently got that ability to produce the concentrated if not Zeke? It would be Historias child with Eren right? It comes from titans. Any of the Nine. And Zeke alone can do it because he's of royal blood, which allows him to more fully utilize the power of the titans (conversely, Eren is not a royal and so wasn't really able to use the power of the Founding Titan until he and Zeke did the touchy thing). Conspiratiorist fucked around with this message at 20:31 on Feb 4, 2021 |
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Feb 4, 2021 20:28
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The forced injections only take effect when people are kicked off the walls. I would assume from that the pain of hitting the ground after being kicked off a 60 foot wall triggers the transformation. Much like how the shifters biting their hands triggers it.
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Feb 4, 2021 20:42
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Guess spoilers are out and people are real mad on Twitter about them. So go look for them if you can’t wait a few more days
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZLXoNUb7sw
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hatty posted:Guess spoilers are out and people are real mad on Twitter about them. So go look for them if you can’t wait a few more days Is there actually ever a day when people on twitter aren't incorrectly mad about something?
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hatty posted:Guess spoilers are out and people are real mad on Twitter about them. So go look for them if you can’t wait a few more days Mad about the content or mad about spoilers in general?
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The content as far as I’m willing to look
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I took a peek as well and the spoilers are so vague that anyone getting mad over them is really stupid. The stuff leaked is actually almost incomprehensible gibberish
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"wah wah wah not my power fantasy" is the gist I'm getting, but we'll see!
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Armin finally has his big 5 page monologue about the merits of fascism and the dangers of cancel culture. The internet was right about aot all along.
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If the "spoilers" arent accompanied by raw images of the chapter they should go straight into the trash IMO
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Cao Ni Ma posted:If the "spoilers" arent accompanied by raw images of the chapter they should go straight into the trash IMO as long as they are ant-sized
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Feb 4, 2021 23:33
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The 'spoilers' I've seen seem completely nonsensical.
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Feb 4, 2021 23:38
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Most of the people who are mad are pro-Yeagerists. The poo poo I saw mostly looks like what I expected to happen??? Honestly, I think I'm down for any ending that doesn't ruin Eren's character, regardless of whether he lives or dies, wins or loses.
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I want my leaked pages tiny and so compressed that you only see what you want to see within, like a Rorschach blot
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Feb 4, 2021 23:40
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who the gently caress is still a yaegarist in tyool 2021
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Beefstew posted:Honestly, I think I'm down for any ending that doesn't ruin Eren's character, regardless of whether he lives or dies, wins or loses. Same, I don't care who wins or loses, I just want it to be believable. Unfortunately Isayama has built up the Founding Titan's power to near godlike levels, so if it gets axed this easily it will really fall flat. The Zeke thing is troubling since it kinda contradicts what happened in 122.
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This is beautiful. I thank you.
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Phobophilia posted:who the gently caress is still a yaegarist in tyool 2021 i hope eren wins
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I'm for Eren winning because it's the more interesting and cathartic conclusion. But echoing some earlier posts, what I care most for is having a believable ending that doesn't ruin Eren's character. Also important, if Eren gets killed he doesn't get to live with the consequences of what he wrought. VVVV Conspiratiorist fucked around with this message at 00:11 on Feb 5, 2021 |
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I'm fine with anything that lets my boy Reiner suffer until a ripe old age.
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Conspiratiorist posted:I'm for Eren winning because it's the more interesting and cathartic conclusion. I can't really imagine "Eren murders all his friends and the population of the world" as remotely cathartic TBH.
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Eren already "won", whatever's happening now is something he's letting happen.
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ImpAtom posted:I can't really imagine "Eren murders all his friends and the population of the world" as remotely cathartic TBH. Ends the vicious cycle by wiping out the world's accursed history, and frees Historia and her child from being ritually cannibalized in order to keep control of the titan WMD switch. Compare to an ending where the can is just kicked further down the road, with the future of Paradis imperiled by a vengeful world - that'd be an unfulfilling note to end things on.
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No Wave posted:Eren already "won", whatever's happening now is something he's letting happen. You're actually completely right, Eren has won, no matter what the ending is. If the Alliance kills Eren now and achieves world peace or whatever (let's put aside for the moment most of the human race is dead). Eren has achieved the Code Geass ending - him becoming a devil was the catalyst to the world uniting. If the Alliance kills Eren now and the remainder of the world still wishes to kill Eldians/Paradisians - Eren was right. The world's hatred was not going to stop until all of the people outside the island were dead. The alliance's victory is pyrrhic. If Eren / Alliance / The World come to some talk no jutsu truce or something, then he was right again. The factions of the world could only be brought to the bargaining table because of a MAD-like scenario. And if Eren kills them all he kind of just wins by default in some sort of AnR-like scenario.
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I also want Ymir freed but that's entirely up to her.
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Conspiratiorist posted:Ends the vicious cycle by wiping out the world's accursed history, and frees Historia and her child from being ritually cannibalized in order to keep control of the titan WMD switch. It's pretty gross how people keep using Historia and her child as justification for murdering countless mothers and children because I guess they're not named so it's A-OK? The choice isn't "Historia must be used as a WMD or everyone else in the world has to die", it's just the only solution that conveniently avoids having to deal with risk and consequences for actions.
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ImpAtom posted:It's pretty gross how people keep using Historia and her child as justification for murdering countless mothers and children because I guess they're not named so it's A-OK? Yes.
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That's extremely loving creepy TBH, especially since the manga has gone out of its way to humanize the literal children Eren is murdering.
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ImpAtom posted:It's pretty gross how people keep using Historia and her child as justification for murdering countless mothers and children because I guess they're not named so it's A-OK? The choice isn't "Historia must be used as a WMD or everyone else in the world has to die", it's just the only solution that conveniently avoids having to deal with risk and consequences for actions. It is just the trolly problem taken to the extreme. Given the choice, would you rather have to kill 5 of your loved ones, or 50 random people? At what ratio does it make it 'okay' to pick the former? Can you blame someone for prioritizing their friends or family over strangers?
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mightygerm posted:It is just the trolly problem taken to the extreme. Given the choice, would you rather have to kill 5 of your loved ones, or 50 random people? At what ratio does it make it 'okay' to pick the former? Can you blame someone for prioritizing their friends or family over strangers? Yes? How is this even a question? It's generally considered pretty awful to decide to murder people in other countries because they might someday pose a risk to your country. A lot of people rightfully find the argument of "they're evil and bad and so we have to kill them all or they'll kill us" to be a disgusting and awful viewpoint to hold. Very few people are willing to accept atrocities committed against helpless people on the viewpoint of "but if I don't they might hurt my family."
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ImpAtom posted:That's extremely loving creepy TBH, especially since the manga has gone out of its way to humanize the literal children Eren is murdering. Yes, they're people too. They even have names. Killing them is an evil act. But I will not condemn Eren for trying to save Historia. He's been sufficiently fleshed out to possess engaging and even sympathetic motivations for doing so, and so now that he's made his choice, I want to see it play out.
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There were other plans that could maybe have saved her but killing every human on the planet was the only sure thing Eren could think of without talking to anyone else about it.
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