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eXXon posted:Well, occasionally they do rescind goals indirectly if someone scores a goal that goes undetected by the refs (going off the read crossbar/goal camera and out or through the netting). If another goal is scored shortly thereafter, before the first one is confirmed by video review, they will only award that first goal and roll back the time to when it was scored, pretending that the subsequent minutes of play never happened. 38.1 (vi) - Any potential goal requiring video review must be reviewed prior to or during the next stoppage of play. No goal may be awarded (or disallowed) as a result of video review once the puck has been dropped and play has resumed.
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rex rabidorum vires posted:Well yea refs can't hand out freebies for you in hockey the same way. The refs gave out a free goal just this afternoon
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Bernie was 25 when the leafs last won the cup
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^Which should tell you that its been a really really long time. fisting by many posted:38.1 (vi) - Any potential goal requiring video review must be reviewed prior to or during the next stoppage of play. No goal may be awarded (or disallowed) as a result of video review once the puck has been dropped and play has resumed. This is important, but so is not taking off the penalty time even if you find you bottled the call. It means that the rules are being applied inconsistently for the next time a call is screwed up. So yeah, they fd up the offsides, but then they made it worse by taking the rest off the clock because all the teams arent being treated the same when the league messes it up. For the exact reason of what someone mentioned earlier about it only getting done because they had an intermission. Its too bad it was a tied game at the time and it completely affected the game, but I dont see why they went and made it worse.
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https://twitter.com/iyer_prashanth/status/1358544951869661189 Well done lads
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Jhet posted:^Which should tell you that its been a really really long time. This has never happened before, and now will never happen again.
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So are Kuzy and Samsonov just never going to come off the COVID list?
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Aphrodite posted:This has never happened before, and now will never happen again. No, they get things wrong all the time, like with other delay of game penalties. But theyre not fixing their mistakes after play has restarted there. But you dont fix a mistake halfway through it there either.
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The NHL making the seemingly wrong decision is completely different than not properly completing the process.
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fisting by many posted:38.1 (vi) - Any potential goal requiring video review must be reviewed prior to or during the next stoppage of play. No goal may be awarded (or disallowed) as a result of video review once the puck has been dropped and play has resumed. In the scenario I mentioned (which has happened), play continues uninterrupted after the first (missed) goal until the second goal, so okay it can't happen 30 minutes later but I'm not sure what your point is otherwise.
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Attention chart lovers: Sean Tierney got hired somewhere and just closed his site and deleted all his tweets since last season. Pretty soon Micahs gonna be the last nerd standing.
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eXXon posted:In the scenario I mentioned (which has happened), play continues uninterrupted after the first (missed) goal until the second goal, so okay it can't happen 30 minutes later but I'm not sure what your point is otherwise. I'm not sure if you're talking to me, but I'll expand like you are. I'm talking about removing the remainder of the bench minor for delay of game. It's covered by 16.2 for how minor penalties are treated. I won't quote it because everyone knows it happens after 2 minutes or they score on the PP. So I'm just being critical of the league for 'fixing' the mistake by breaking a rule instead. They can't take the goal away, because that would also be breaking a rule. My point is you can't just pick and choose which objective rules you're going to enforce, even if you realize that as an officiating team/league you've screwed up a big call. (I realize they apply the many penalty rules subjectively, and it's annoying, but I can at least empathize with doing that even if I find it disagreeable.) If I'm wrong and I'm missing the part where they can just cancel a minor penalty in the middle of it, I'd love to see it. I'm pretty sure there's not anything that allows for it after it's started, and you should just play through it all the way.
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Louis CK has a bit where he says maybe pedophiles wouldn't kill so many victims if we didn't get so furious at them for molesting kids. Along the same lines maybe we wouldn't have so many convoluted video replay rules if everyone could just shut the gently caress up about the refs blowing an obvious offside call or Stanley Cup winning goal. gently caress video replay. The refs were right, they shouldn't even show it in the arena. Fans watching replays on their phones should be kicked out.
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Flocons de Jambon posted:Louis CK has a bit where he says maybe pedophiles wouldn't kill so many victims if we didn't get so furious at them for molesting kids. Man there is a lot to dig through here. Next up is a justification for helmet to helmet hits in football with a comparison to the works of Harvey Weinstein.
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Flocons de Jambon posted:Louis CK has a bit where he says maybe pedophiles wouldn't kill so many victims if we didn't get so furious at them for molesting kids. Lol
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Flocons de Jambon posted:Louis CK has a bit where he says maybe pedophiles wouldn't kill so many victims if we didn't get so furious at them for molesting kids. the holocaust would never have happened if hitler had gotten into art school, and along those same lines if you never saw that louis CK bit you wouldn't have made this post
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Flocons de Jambon posted:Louis CK has a bit where he says maybe pedophiles wouldn't kill so many victims if we didn't get so furious at them for molesting kids. If you think about it, the refs botching calls that fundamentally alter the outcome of the game is a lot like trapping women in hotel rooms and forcing them to watch you masturbate because
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Flocons de Jambon posted:Louis CK has a bit where he says maybe pedophiles wouldn't kill so many victims if we didn't get so furious at them for molesting kids. Uh, okay.
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Flocons de Jambon posted:Louis CK has a bit where he says maybe pedophiles wouldn't kill so many victims if we didn't get so furious at them for molesting kids. Glad someone is brave enough to stand up for those poor, poor NHL refs. You don't like refs? Then don't call them next time you need a penalty! How about that?!?
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romanowski posted:the caps have had unreal injury luck the past 10 years and now it's all catching up to them at once I thought this mostly just applied to Ovechkin, but you're right. Surely that changes since they are now the oldest team in the league. https://twitter.com/ManGamesLostNHL/status/1357027353852002311 Penguins are outliers for being most injured and most successful.
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Duck Rodgers posted:The refs gave out a free goal just this afternoon Did the team get a trophy for that? Flocons de Jambon posted:Louis CK has a bit where he says maybe pedophiles wouldn't kill so many victims if we didn't get so furious at them for molesting kids. This is bad and you should feel bad about it. Maybe more stuff about pounding ref's dogs or something.
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Koopa Kid posted:Attention chart lovers: Sean Tierney got hired somewhere and just closed his site and deleted all his tweets since last season. Pretty soon Micahs gonna be the last nerd standing. Nooooooooooo those ones were actually readable.
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Flocons de Jambon posted:Louis CK has a bit where he says maybe pedophiles wouldn't kill so many victims if we didn't get so furious at them for molesting kids. Bill Burr has a bit about population control leading to less idiots doing dumb poo poo we have to suffer through daily. Not sure where I was going with this but solid post. voted 5
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Also I doubt the authenticity of that statistic.Chad Sexington posted:I thought this mostly just applied to Ovechkin, but you're right. Surely that changes since they are now the oldest team in the league. That's because the guy who keeps getting injured is Letang and he sucks.
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Koopa Kid posted:Attention chart lovers: Sean Tierney got hired somewhere and just closed his site and deleted all his tweets since last season. Pretty soon Micahs gonna be the last nerd standing. I'm glad he's getting paid, but goddamn it. I'm going to need someone to slap the habs logo onto the top-right of a chart so I can get my fix.
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Chad Sexington posted:I thought this mostly just applied to Ovechkin, but you're right. Surely that changes since they are now the oldest team in the league. The Penguins had bizarrely good (for them, anyway) luck with injuries for exactly two seasons, and won two Cups. The truth is injury luck is a gigantic determiner of who wins championships in any sport.
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This is like AV hockey 101. Ya'll keep making snarky comments when I or other Rangers fans bring him up but this is AV hockey. His teams get out shot like mother fuckers, have terrible analytics, but generate a lot of high quality scoring chances. With the Rangers at least they also didn't defend the front of the net well (because they're always chasing the puck in the defensive zone or something?) and the cycle was also usually mediocre and most of the chances came off the rush. It's honestly pretty fun when it's working but the reason we all got into "FIRE AV" mode is when it stops working it sucks to watch your team dick around and get easily stuffed offensively because everyone else has figured out how to mostly stop your one trick pony offense that can't sustain pressure and then they just trap you in the defensive end because your defense is a tire fire. Flyers are more talented though so maybe they can ride that wave
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Have AV teams always also had problems with always parking the Zamboni with a third period lead and being really bad at it and blowing a lot of third period leads? It's kind of been a Flyers thing since long before AV got there, but I also feel like I remember it being an issue with his previous teams too? Or maybe it's not that they're trying to turtle on a lead, but more that by the third period the other team's figured their poo poo out, as Levitate explained above.
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DJExile posted:https://twitter.com/domluszczyszyn/status/1358777792234741762 I think the Pens think that this is how to better on the powerplay also
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Eric the Mauve posted:Have AV teams always also had problems with always parking the Zamboni with a third period lead and being really bad at it and blowing a lot of third period leads? It's kind of been a Flyers thing since long before AV got there, but I also feel like I remember it being an issue with his previous teams too? This was a problem in NY as well. I think they'd regularly get destroyed hardcore shot wise in the third period trying to hold a lead
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Levitate posted:This is like AV hockey 101. I've got no problem with the offense overall, frankly, but rolling out 2 defensemen for a PP unit and getting 1 shot on goal during a 4 minute double-minor is just lunacy and seems to be down to Therrien galaxy-braining the power play. E: and yeah the Flyers under Hakstol turtled HARD on leads but they largely haven't under AV. The third period has been their best for a while now and they're very good at keeping the pace up late when they're winning.
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DildenAnders posted:Glad someone is brave enough to stand up for those poor, poor NHL refs. You don't like refs? Then don't call them next time you need a penalty! How about that?!? You joke, but I've seen people defending refs in this very forum! Trust no one.
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Eric the Mauve posted:Have AV teams always also had problems with always parking the Zamboni with a third period lead and being really bad at it and blowing a lot of third period leads? It's kind of been a Flyers thing since long before AV got there, but I also feel like I remember it being an issue with his previous teams too? The Flyers in the AV era have surprisingly been the opposite mostly. Their third periods have been the best for the most part, except the last couple against the Bruins. And its definitely a newer thing, too.
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https://twitter.com/NHLhistorygirl/status/1358798239818915841 Bure as a Panther is still one of the most absolutely bizarre things to me.
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Eric the Mauve posted:The Penguins had bizarrely good (for them, anyway) luck with injuries for exactly two seasons, and won two Cups. MAF getting the Pens to the third(?) round in 2017 after Murray went down in warmups for the first game of the playoffs is still one of the more  things I can remember in recent memory.
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bure coming back after that knee injury and absolutely torching the league for like 10 games is one of my favorite hockey things also those next couple years in florida was one of the best one man band performances ever in the NHL
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bewbies posted:bure coming back after that knee injury and absolutely torching the league for like 10 games is one of my favorite hockey things In 2000-01 he averaged 26:52 per game in ice time on the Panthers. Absolutely absurd beer league poo poo. That's one of my favorite Bure stats. Crosby's highest average toi in his career was 21:57. Ovechkin's was 23:06. And that's young Crosby/Ovechkin.
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