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KazigluBey posted:It's going to be much, MUCH worse than that, everyone worked together to stop the rumbling so this puts a stop to the ongoing genocide, everyone is freed from the ghetto as their humanity is recognized. All crimes are forgiven and forgotten. Happy ending where everyone still alive responsible for suffering gets off scott-free
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I see the PATHS in a new light this chapter. It also serves as a sort of afterlife for Subjects of Ymir. Erwin seeing his scout comrades before death isn't just in his mind, but instead he saw an actual psychic manifestation of them. It makes Zeke accepting life and then going out to get his head lopped off make more sense because he had just witnessed proof of an afterlife where he can continue to play catch.
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Eustace posted:Maybe Im a dumb baby with bad taste but I really liked this chapter It was perfectly fine Im also gonna love to see everything from Pieck fighting to the dead shifters coming back to join the melee animated
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Feb 9, 2021 02:47
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Racism and hatred aren't as simple as "people hate people that are different because bad memories so it's inevitably us or them". We've seen that it's fueled by power structures - Marleyan propaganda, their desire for oil, and the means and capital they have at their disposal to inflict fear and oppression. This may not have even been his plan, but Eren has destroyed those power structures. It guarantees nothing, and anything short of a guarantee isn't enough for Eren. But it can be seen as a start. If Marley hadn't been at least partially rumbled, I would've agreed with peace being a bad ending, but that's not the case. The alliance has said that nobody would dare attack Paradis in their lifetimes again - they simply don't have the means. This was Marley's last military outpost, and all of their ships are gone. Navy, air force, aristocracy, military leadership, all gone. If that isn't a foundation for change then I don't know what is. And if we're worried about Paradis becoming oppressors - well, Floch's dead too, and I suspect the Yeagerists won't last.
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Feb 9, 2021 02:48
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Armin with the real come up this chapter. "I took everything from you, your life, your power, even your girl."
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Rewatching Grisha's speech after mightygerm's last post and... man Grisha wants Eren to absolutely reach the end of his road, whatever it is, and he definitely wants him to master his power to save everyone despite knowing that he can't even use the Founder under normal circumstances and knowing that at face value, the Rumbling has killed a lot of people and saved no one as of right now. I really, really, really hope they follow up on this in the last few chapters because I can't even fathom why Grisha would give Eren the Founder/Attack Titan and expect him to save anyone at all knowing that the Rumbling actually will happen. It would be some Xanatos-rear end poo poo if Eren wasn't even there and is back in Paradis, did this so that his child inherits the beast titan at this exact moment, and then does... something with the Founder at the precise moment the centipede thing is active. very unlikely but that would be the biggest reverse uno card Eren could ever pull
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Feb 9, 2021 03:26
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Beefstew posted:After this chapter, I'm convinced it's intentional. With Mikasa still simping over her genocidal brother-bf and unlikely to show Jean the time of day anytime soon, I think Isayama felt like he should give our wannabe knight in shining armor some moments of rescuing second-best girl to seed fans' imaginations. That's also the only logical explanation for why he hasn't killed off Pieck. I think "...Dammit, I like Pieck." is a more likely explanation. Until right now, pretty much every couple and potential couple has been brutally destroyed. Carla and Grisha both died horribly in the first chapters, Marlowe died just as he finally realized his feelings for Hitch, Ymir went off to her death and abandoned Historia to save Reiner, Bert died while Annie was in the crystal, Sasha died while Niccolo was waiting for her in Paradis... even Nile Dok died without getting to see his wife and kids one last time. Being in a relationship is enough of a death flag that people have been assuming Annie or Armin would die ever since them liking each other was brought up. Pieck, meanwhile, has just spent her time being increasingly great, with no natural openings for her death. It's a thing some writers bring up in interviews , that they have some dashed off supporting character that, due to the narrative or the performance, just keeps grabbing more spotlight. I figure the original Cart Titan plans, when Pieck's role was going to a middle aged guy, didn't really have a specific "this is where he dies" place in the story, just a rough "This character isn't too important, just find a big action scene". But then he went with Pieck Finger instead, and she kept getting funny scenes, or charming ones, or ones showing that she was one of the most competent people around, and that meant she'd have to die historic instead of as an afterthought, and the story didn't have an easy way to do that. Her getting together with Jean isn't impossible with a timeskip or something, but they've been mortal enemies for years and coworkers for less than a week. Jean even ditched her mid-sentence last chapter. Shipping them is still more a meme than something the story suggests.
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Feb 9, 2021 03:38
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They've all got one year left don't they? Or did Zeke get picked before all the others?
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If anything at all is getting resolved, titans and the curse have to go. I'm assuming the current shifters aren't going to run out of time.
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I have a creeping suspicion Eren's scheme will somehow be the inverse of RBA's infiltration plan. Where RBA smashed the wall and assumed Eldian identities in the chaos, here Eren has smashed the governments of the world. With the Founder's power he could rewrite all of Paradis' memories so that they forget their history, and believe themselves to be refugees like anyone else.
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Squidster posted:I have a creeping suspicion Eren's scheme will somehow be the inverse of RBA's infiltration plan. Where RBA smashed the wall and assumed Eldian identities in the chaos, here Eren has smashed the governments of the world. With the Founder's power he could rewrite all of Paradis' memories so that they forget their history, and believe themselves to be refugees like anyone else. I doubt he would do that because it is no different than killing them all in his eyes.
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if erasing their memories was on the table, he wouldn’t have allowed them to interfere at all.
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MechaX posted:Rewatching Grisha's speech after mightygerm's last post and... man Yeah that's my biggest question now for the finale is why did Grisha change his mind? He clearly was against Eren's destiny the last we saw of him, and that wasn't anywhere near the end of his life. Does he feel a slave to destiny or did he get to see more later on?
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Feb 9, 2021 06:17
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The Path People didn't say anything so I wonder how much of the actual person they were
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didn’t Paths Erwin talk to freshly deceased Hange? Is there a significance in this difference? hmmmm
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I’m literally only rooting for the author to close out the series in a spectacular ending so all our time and the whole thing won’t go to waste.
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It could fumble the landing and I'd still feel it was worth the ride.
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Feb 9, 2021 08:52
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Its going to end with Armin Linking the First Flame and preserving the Age of Fire.
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No Wave posted:You mean, like, Willy Tybur and the VIPs of Marleyan society? The only people responsible for a structural issue are the ones at the top? Ahh yes, racism (with coded antisemitic beats) is resolved if the people being the most racist are killed and nothing else beyond that needs changing. It's not like it wasn't baked into every facet of Marley society, nope. It's also not like an Eldian (& Co.) weren't then responsible for the death of many international dignitaries and an attempted world-spanning omnicide, which I can't imagine in a less saccharine ending wouldn't result in all the non-Marleyans loathing and fearing them on the same level (or worse) that the Marleyans did. Having said all that I still dread the "happy" ending being the one the story goes for, flying in the face of it all. We've already gotten the "gotta' band together against a common foe!"-beat I was predicting yonks ago, lets see if the whole thing comes true then.
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Im still on the fence I liked the action, I liked Armin in the path but... theres got to be a good explanation for the whole Zeke thing First he could not leave, than he just does. He just materializes out there. Then "killing" him ends the rumbling? What even means to "kill" him there? He wanst really alive anymore But 2 chapters to go, lets see what the author is taking us Elias_Maluco fucked around with this message at 12:10 on Feb 9, 2021 |
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I liked it! A little hand-wavy why Ymir gave Zeke his power back, but the theme is on point. Almost every character has said at some point they wished they chose a peaceful life over fighting, and now their power to fight is for that dream. I guess next chapter is final confrontation with Eren (and maybe a better explanation on what just happened), then final chapter an epilogue for the future of Eldia.
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Elias_Maluco posted:Im still on the fence He did not think he could and he was actually alive. Once he realized he could just leave he did and Levi killed him.
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Well, for 2000 years, Ymir figured she couldn't leave, too. 
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Is it weird that I barely remember Historia? I feel like she hasn't been an actual character for easily the back 1/2 of the story. I get that she has very little of interest to do (maybe we dunno I guess?), but given her being a central piece in the story for Eren & the outcome, it feels weird that she's been so absent except as a way to hide information.
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Ok who called it was going to be a lelouch ending, because its 100% going to be a lelouch ending.
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The Notorious ZSB posted:Is it weird that I barely remember Historia? I feel like she hasn't been an actual character for easily the back 1/2 of the story. I get that she has very little of interest to do (maybe we dunno I guess?), but given her being a central piece in the story for Eren & the outcome, it feels weird that she's been so absent except as a way to hide information.
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AradoBalanga posted:Watch the next chapter end with Historia arriving out of nowhere, brandishing a steel chair. BAH GAWD THAT'S HISTORIA'S MUSIC
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serious gaylord posted:Ok who called it was going to be a lelouch ending, because its 100% going to be a lelouch ending. A lot of people are calling it but most dont want it to be true
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I think the majority already came to the conclusion when the rumbling actually started that Eren had already won, and I think Isayama correctly guessed that people would have already too given that it was around that time he posted the work on the last page of the series. Its just what "winning" means.
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Feb 9, 2021 21:15
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One more chapter for my favorite part of falling action.
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serious gaylord posted:Ok who called it was going to be a lelouch ending, because its 100% going to be a lelouch ending. It all depends who is in the final page of the manga. But I guess they did bring lelouch back to life anyway also.
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Feb 9, 2021 22:43
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What is a "lelouch ending"?
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Elias_Maluco posted:What is a "lelouch ending"? A God Emperor of Dune ending.
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Elias_Maluco posted:What is a "lelouch ending"? Playing the role of the villain so that everyone can unite and defeat you.
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Zerilan posted:Playing the role of the villain so that everyone can unite and defeat you. Thanks It does makes some sense
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More specifically, it's winning in a deliberately evil fashion but getting assassinated so everyone supports your comparatively saintly successor. Cue world peace, which was your real goal all along.
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serious gaylord posted:Ok who called it was going to be a lelouch ending, because its 100% going to be a lelouch ending. I used to disagree with this, mainly because Eren and Pixis make fun of it directly. But now it seems like only one of two ways the plot can make any sort of sense in the end without massive retcons.
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Pretending to be a monster is much more dull than the character actually being one imo.
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Feb 9, 2021 23:39
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That'd be one hell of a trick if Eren was only pretending to genocide the planet considering it looks like he laid flat an entire continent.
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