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The Bloop posted:What the hell is going on with that table top? Glass joined to a triangular prism-shaped base, with two ribs of quarter circle glass coming down. Presumably the hardware to secure it to the base is in the ribs. It's ugly. Sorry, decorator.
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actionjackson posted:lot of cool modern stuff, much from the 40s-60s You know, it's weird. I look at the houses in these posts and rarely feel anything about the cost besides humor. But this seller makes me feel broke looking at the prices. This poo poo is my day job, this is nothing new for me. Why does this one hit different?
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I've never heard of Mira or George Nakashima until now, apparently the elder worked with Knoll in the 1940s https://www.ebay.com/itm/Mira-Nakas...jAAAOSwQC1foWl~ uh, ok
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actionjackson posted:I've never heard of Mira or George Nakashima until now, apparently the elder worked with Knoll in the 1940s It's designer, you know. Yeah. 30 grand is absurd. Somehow unsurprised, I've personally put up some incredibly ugly (and incredibly cheap to make) stuff running 20-30 grand that... I guess sells well because of the designer name on it? Well enough we keep selling, at least. From an objective perspective I get the reason people buy it, but from what feels like a rational perspective I'll never understand these people. e: remind me to track down the volcano tables sometime, I think the manufacturer went under but they were so bad.
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Youth Decay posted:https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/116-E-68th-St-APT-9B-New-York-NY-10065/2078370985_zpid/ for when you want to feel like you're living in a very expensive retirement home
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actionjackson posted:I've never heard of Mira or George Nakashima until now, apparently the elder worked with Knoll in the 1940s $30k seems like a lot but fwiw Antiques Roadshow appraised a nakashima bench for $60k or something a few years back. A lot of this person’s listings have that 100% above fair market value eBay markup. It’s all nice stuff individually but for my money, if I’m paying that much I expect them to bring some unique curatorial energy or inventive way of decorating to the table. Regrettably I am oversaturated with the mid century modern all time greatest hits compilation they are pulling their collection from.
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kreeningsons posted:$30k seems like a lot but fwiw Antiques Roadshow appraised a nakashima bench for $60k or something a few years back. A lot of this person’s listings have that 100% above fair market value eBay markup. It’s all nice stuff individually but for my money, if I’m paying that much I expect them to bring some unique curatorial energy or inventive way of decorating to the table. Regrettably I am oversaturated with the mid century modern all time greatest hits compilation they are pulling their collection from. Since you probably know way more about MCM than I will ever do, some of the stuff doesn't really seem to be in that category. The one thing I'm wondering about is legs on chairs, sofas, credenzas, etc. To me chrome or perforated steel is not really of that era. When I think 40s-60s MCM I think wood legs, and of course hairpins. And for wood, mainly walnut, rosewood, and teak. They are selling a knoll chair from that era but the legs are chrome, and it just looks weird. https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Fl...wsAAOSwYIxe9iI5
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actionjackson posted:Since you probably know way more about MCM than I will ever do, some of the stuff doesn't really seem to be in that category. The one thing I'm wondering about is legs on chairs, sofas, credenzas, etc. To me chrome or perforated steel is not really of that era. When I think 40s-60s MCM I think wood legs, and of course hairpins. And for wood, mainly walnut, rosewood, and teak. Eh I would definitely classify that chair as mid century modern. It’s a stone cold classic. Mid century modern isn’t a monolithic classification. It varies from cold steel architectural pieces like that Knoll chair, to warm wooden pieces using like sculpted danish teak, to more cheery pop influenced pieces incorporating loud colors/shapes/plastics/etc, and that is by no means all encompassing. A lot of antiques dealers mix and match all of the above and that’s how most people decorate anyway.
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Okay. I was really just focusing on the legs. The seat is definitely what I would expect especially with the tufts. There's a place close to me that sells MCM stuff and I only ever see wood or sometimes hairpin legs.
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With our TV den we’re going for an eclectic David Lynch MCM sort of vibe. We’re in no rush since we still have a bunch of remodeling to do, but I always have my eyes peeled for furniture pieces. We recently bought a new TV and figured it would be a good opportunity to pick out a high quality media console aligned with our vision. My husband found a great furniture maker on Etsy or somewhere, and the guy had a piece that was pretty much exactly what we wanted, but it was several thousand dollars and would take 8+ weeks to ship, and there were a couple customizations we wanted, like slightly shorter legs for ideal ergonomic viewing height, that would have added to cost and shipping time. So we bought a particle board piece of crap from Wayfair to tide us over until we can find/commission the piece we actually want. Finding the right furniture is hard. As much as I like the look of designer poo poo, I wouldn’t spend five figures on a piece if I could get a similarly exquisite one from a non-designer-name artisan for four figures. I just don’t care about designer prestige at all.
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There is definitely a price bump if the designer or brand is well known / well established, has won awards, etc. that being said I can't imagine spending anywhere close to five figures on any piece of furniture. My media unit was originally 2300, but I got it 60% off as a floor model. I think 2-3k for a custom built, high quality credenza on etsy is pretty reasonable. I would imagine for most people their most expensive piece of furniture is their sofa, and for a standard (83") size you absolutely do not need to go beyond 2-3k for fabric or 5-6k for leather. And you can often get a decent discount if you are patient enough. The only reason I can see someone actually hitting 10k would be for a very large leather sectional. The new standard one from blu dot is 15k, but it is absolutely gargantuan.
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kreeningsons posted:Hot mountain pyramid home listing Textbook demonstration of how not to design a floor plan. Jesus. e: also that faded carpet in the loft, lmao SkyeAuroline fucked around with this message at 04:42 on Feb 10, 2021 |
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kreeningsons posted:Hot mountain pyramid home listing I’m the fake HDR making the walls look dirty. actionjackson posted:There is definitely a price bump if the designer or brand is well known / well established, has won awards, etc. I want to say that the console we were looking at was around 4k or more, but it was very very nice, impeccable build quality and gorgeous wood. I don’t mind spending a lot on good furniture that’ll last forever. There’s a pile of mostly mystery heirloom furniture that we’re slated to receive once we finish remodeling, so there are very few pieces we know we need to buy at this point (the media console is one). My dad is being a butt and deliberately not telling me what’s included because he wants it to be a surprise. From what I understand, it’s about enough furniture to entirely furnish our house. As for couches, we are already good on that front. Our couch currently is a gigantic red leather beast of unknown provenance. It’s about 9’ across, really beat up, but the most comfortable couch I’ve ever sat on, so I extracted it from the lovely college house I used to live in and moved with it twice. It needs a huge restoration job, which we’re happy to pay for because the couch cost $0. It’ll go in the TV den eventually. The other one is my grandma’s couch (not yet in my possession), which is a carved wood frame antique one. Needs reupholstering. One thing I want (that I’m pretty sure is not included in the furniture mystery box) is an Eastlake hall tree, and ones in good condition I’ve seen for sale online tend to go for mid four figures, so that’ll be a big purchase. Also rugs. My parents have a lot of rugs but they don’t seem to want to part with any of them, which means we’ll have to buy our own. Big ones get into the five figure territory. I’m resigned to the fact that if I want a legit handmade Persian rug (and not a mass-produced fake from some Chinese factory), I’ll have to pay out the rear end for it or get lucky with someone on Craigslist or Nextdoor trying to unload one not knowing what they’re worth.
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kreeningsons posted:Hot mountain pyramid home listing quote:The ''loft'' style master bedroom on the 2nd floor has a balcony overlooking the living room, a two sitting areas, a large walk-in-closet and skylights at the top! We've seen a few houses with these master bedroom overlooking living space, and I don't get it. Walls and doors are good, I love walls. With no wall, anyone in the living space is gonna hear it if you're loving or masturbating or watching porn or whatever. Want to go to bed early while the rest of the family is watching TV? Well gently caress you because all that light and noise is piped right into your bedroom. Why would anyone want this?
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Is "big" like 12x15? DWR does have a few 9x12 and 12x15 rugs that are 10k+, but even their Maharam ones don't get that high. Roche Bobois rugs top out around 9700. I know that's not Persian, but that's my only reference point.
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just learned the term "dropship" for someone who gets trade discounts and sets up a virtual storefront - you order from them, they order it at their discount and then ship it to you. The place on the left has everything under MSRP. And they are listed by Louis Poulson as being an official retailer.
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That seems sketch as gently caress - and then I am now reading Shopify is like, COOL - this is a GREAT idea. https://www.shopify.com/blog/dropshipping-guide
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actionjackson posted:just learned the term "dropship" for someone who gets trade discounts and sets up a virtual storefront - you order from them, they order it at their discount and then ship it to you. The place on the left has everything under MSRP. And they are listed by Louis Poulson as being an official retailer. Hi. I do that for a living. I can't say you should trust everywhere but if you're cool with absurd ship times then dropshipping is a good way to save. Just be aware that I genuinely mean absurd - I've seen upwards of 4 months before.
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Vintersorg posted:That seems sketch as gently caress - and then I am now reading Shopify is like, COOL - this is a GREAT idea. I was definitely suspicious, but Gessato is listed on the Louis Poulson site as an authorized retailer. So at least on the legit product end I'm not worried. Seems kind of "gray market" though in terms of what they are doing. SkyeAuroline posted:Hi. I do that for a living. okay thanks. I actually just asked DWR to match the Gessato price on the Yuh lamp. The difference isn't as extreme as the AJ, it's about 10%. But they also don't charge sales tax. do you buy the products directly from the manufacturer? If everyone could do this would this business model just disappear? actionjackson fucked around with this message at 01:14 on Feb 11, 2021 |
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actionjackson posted:I was definitely suspicious, but Gessato is listed on the Louis Poulson site as an authorized retailer. So at least on the legit product end I'm not worried. Seems kind of "gray market" though in terms of what they are doing. Caveat: I work for a company that has been doing this for a much longer time than I've been in the field. (Not IDing because I would immediately be doxxed. Others may recognize it but I'll politely ask you don't ask.) Yes, sort of. Our automated system places the orders with the manufacturer and we arrange shipping, but the product itself never passes through our hands physically. Shipped direct from the manufacturer's warehouse - this is why shipping gets absurd (if they manufacture in China you bet it's taking a boat over after you order), though the shipping fees are usually kept pretty reasonable. Nothing grey market, we have a sales contract with every manufacturer or distributor. Would opening up manufacturer orders kill the industry? Paradoxically... it would kill the little guys and the big fish would survive. Anyone out to compete with the big guys right now just has to have a lower price (actually easy for smaller sellers). You cannot compete on service quality on the same level. The biggest and most established have on-call customer support, one-on-one design advisors and more that just isn't tenable. Plus a broad range of suppliers to make up for shortcomings in any one field of products. If you fully open to public orders, the little guy loses the price advantage (why pay any middleman fee when you can pay none?) and still can't afford the support side on anything near the same level. Plus, have you seen a plumbing manufacturer's internal documentation? I had to write my own translation guide for the last one I worked with. poo poo is arcane and Joe Public is not gonna have the patience for it. Cross that with the long lead and ship times and what is ultimately not lifechanging savings, and there's still space for a company willing to work with customers to meet their needs, because not many people will want to do it themselves.
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SkyeAuroline posted:Caveat: I work for a company that has been doing this for a much longer time than I've been in the field. (Not IDing because I would immediately be doxxed. Others may recognize it but I'll politely ask you don't ask.) thanks for the info. after looking around a bit it doesn't look like these places are required to disclose that they don't have the physical inventory themselves. on the gessato site they don't mention this at all, and keep the language quite vague. is this purposeful? actionjackson fucked around with this message at 03:38 on Feb 11, 2021 |
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actionjackson posted:thanks for the info. after looking around a bit it doesn't look like these places are required to disclose that they don't have the physical inventory themselves. on the gessato site they don't mention this at all, and keep the language quite vague. is this purposeful? Hell, Gessato's site makes it sound like they aren't dropshippers at all - they claim to keep stock and pack the shipments themselves... it's certainly unusual. Normally this sort of thing is telegraphed at least somewhat more clearly. We're very unambiguous on that front. I'm unfamiliar with them outside of what's been written here, though. That said: wow, checked their site, and that is some ugly furniture.
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SkyeAuroline posted:Hell, Gessato's site makes it sound like they aren't dropshippers at all - they claim to keep stock and pack the shipments themselves... it's certainly unusual. Normally this sort of thing is telegraphed at least somewhat more clearly. We're very unambiguous on that front. I'm unfamiliar with them outside of what's been written here, though. yeah they have a lot of bizarre stuff. the whole thing is quite weird. their chair section also has some of the most blatant rip-offs I've ever seen. a bunch of fake emeco's, and of course this actionjackson fucked around with this message at 04:20 on Feb 11, 2021 |
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Yeah, I'd feel bad offering any sort of counsel on these guys, because I frankly don't have the knowledge of this particular seller to tell you you aren't gonna get ripped off. YD, you liked today's enough to give it to us twice? (There are some very nice houses in there.)
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SkyeAuroline posted:Yeah, I'd feel bad offering any sort of counsel on these guys, because I frankly don't have the knowledge of this particular seller to tell you you aren't gonna get ripped off. given that they didn't respond to a question I asked a few days ago, and also I looked them up on BBB, the discount isn't nearly enough for me to deal with them. I did find it kind of amazing that there are basically no search results for them outside of their website, their social media, and a BBB review site. In fact the bottom of their website has images of several magazines, like GQ and Esquire, as if they were featured there, but as far as I can tell this is a fabrication.
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But the pool balls don't even fit under the table, so they and the cues would be just hanging out in your dining room? Also can you even fit a single ball in those pockets? I am legit curious without googling if dining height and pool height are anywhere near the same.
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falz posted:But the pool balls don't even fit under the table, so they and the cues would be just hanging out in your dining room? from their website
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