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I usually like Pedro Pascal but I think he's getting a little overexposed? Mahershala Ali would've been more interesting in that role to me. I'll still watch either way.
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abelwingnut posted:hold up, when six feet under aired, did people sympathize with nate? i sure hope not. Finished the show early this year and I swear I never understood the worship. I always found him to be manipulative, narcissistic and extremely annoying despite this apparently being the unpopular opinion amongst SFU fans. I wish he died during the end of Season 2, maybe then I'd have actually cared for him but I just knew the writers didn't have the balls to do it considering how important he seemed to the show.
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mcmagic posted:I usually like Pedro Pascal but I think he's getting a little overexposed? Mahershala Ali would've been more interesting in that role to me. I'll still watch either way. I'm glad to see him getting more work. He's in two shows and barely in one at all.
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I think it was this thread talking about Renovation Realities on Discovery+. I had never heard of it but checked the first few episodes yesterday. I feel terrible for laughing at some of these situations cause I know that's how it would go for me if I attempted any DIY renovations.
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abelwingnut posted:hold up, when six feet under aired, did people sympathize with nate? i sure hope not. Nundizo posted:Finished the show early this year and I swear I never understood the worship. I always found him to be manipulative, narcissistic and extremely annoying despite this apparently being the unpopular opinion amongst SFU fans. I wish he died during the end of Season 2, maybe then I'd have actually cared for him but I just knew the writers didn't have the balls to do it considering how important he seemed to the show. As someone who watched it when the show actually aired (I changed my name on SA after the 'narm' episode), I don't think people worshiped the character or truly sympathized with him. I remember everyone seeing him as a very flawed character who never really learn from his mistakes. He was completely selfish and even his own tries at self improvement failed due to his narcissism. I do remember that Peter Krause being upset about how the character turned out, no real growth I think was his issue. Alan Ball responded that is life and death. You can die while you are in the middle of a bunch of poo poo, you can die before you have that real growth, or you can just continue to suck as a person. I will say people were sad when he died, but not because they worshiped him. It was because they just spent 5 seasons with him as a character (also watching 5 seasons over 5 years is a different experience than binging a show), and I remember my thought when he died was drat he never unfucked himself before he died like I thought he would. Now I haven't watched SFU since it aired, but what I just wrote reminds me of Don Draper. Both of them were always searching for happiness while loving almost everyone else over while doing it and never really truly changing. Now my take on Nate is based on my experiences within my own family as we watched and the threads on here from when the show aired. I would say the worship of Don Draper and Walter White are more glaring examples of what you speak of. nate fisher fucked around with this message at 22:03 on Feb 11, 2021 |
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nate fisher posted:As someone who watched it when the show actually aired (I changed my name on SA after the 'narm' episode), I don't think people worshiped the character or truly sympathized with him. I remember everyone seeing him as a very flawed character who never really learn from his mistakes. He was completely selfish and even his own tries at self improvement failed due to his narcissism. I do remember that Peter Krause being upset about how the character turned out, no real growth I think was his issue. Alan Ball responded that is life and death. You can die while you are in the middle of a bunch of poo poo, you can die before you have that real growth, or you can just continue to suck as a person. I will say people were sad when he died, but not because they worshiped him. It was because they just spent 5 seasons with him as a character (also watching 5 seasons over 5 years is a different experience than binging a show), and I remember my thought when he died was drat he never unfucked himself before he died like I thought he would. Now I haven't watched SFU since it aired, but what I just wrote reminds me of Don Draper. Both of them were always searching for happiness while loving almost everyone else over while doing it and never really truly changing. Interesting take, thank you. I guess most of the people who I talked to (randoms and friends who recommended the show) couldn't describe him this way. The most common example I saw was fans often blaming everyone but Nate for his mistakes and shortcomings which is why my general opinion of him was so negative.
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Get that money. Umbrella Academy cast got a big pay raise in front of filming season 3.
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Ah so season 3 will be the last season then.
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GreenNight posted:Ah so season 3 will be the last season then. Well, its Netflix so that was going to happen anyway.
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Nundizo posted:Interesting take, thank you. I could be wrong. I hardly knew anyone who watched SFU when it aired outside of my wife. The rest were goons on this forum. So I am sure there are tons of bad takes on that character now. My mom and niece recently watched it. I will have to get their thoughts. I know. I was like how can I say what I said and seem sincere with the username I have. nate fisher fucked around with this message at 22:52 on Feb 11, 2021 |
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muscles like this! posted:Get that money. Umbrella Academy cast got a big pay raise in front of filming season 3. Real question, has it been announced if Elliot Page will be playing the role as it was, or are they making changes to the character?
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My touchstone for SFU discourse at the time was the Television Without Pity reviews & forums. God I miss that site.
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swickles posted:Real question, has it been announced if Elliot Page will be playing the role as it was, or are they making changes to the character? I think they had already mentioned that he will continue playing Vanya as was right around the time he made the announcement. At least that was the case back in December.
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Yeah none of that changed. He mentioned he can act as someone he is not, which whoop that's acting.
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Well, the Joss Whedon trashfire just got bigger: https://twitter.com/Hello_Tailor/status/1359984855375831042
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Laterite posted:Well, the Joss Whedon trashfire just got bigger: A real life  reading that. I know it's not surprising or new, but every reminder of the way the world bends to allow people to be horrible still gets to me.
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mcmagic posted:I usually like Pedro Pascal but I think he's getting a little overexposed? Mahershala Ali would've been more interesting in that role to me. I'll still watch either way. GreenNight posted:I'm glad to see him getting more work. He's in two shows and barely in one at all. I don't necessarily think he's overexposed, but I don't think I've ever seen this much fanfare and swooning about an actor in comparison to their actual body of work. His most high profile roles are: -Nondescript partner of the cop character in the first couple of seasons of Narcos -Bit part of one of the worst/poorly adapted parts of the world in GOT -The voice of The Mandalorian -The villain in one of the most poorly received superhero movies of the last few years And yet, the internet appears to be obsessed with him
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I was honestly about to say “that was Oscar Isaac in Apocalypse” because I already completely forgot Wonder Woman 1984 even existed. That movie is so poo poo
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Watching the first episode of Resident Alien, it is pretty fun. Also Alan Tudyk is in really good shape.
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IRQ posted:While they totally hosed up Dorne over all, he did great with what he had, I thought. Fair, but 90% of the bit part character actors in GOT were amazing. He didn't exactly stand out from the pack.
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How is Kim's Convenience? Worth getting in to? And yes, the Resident Alien pilot was great. The next two episodes waffle a little.
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Looten Plunder posted:Fair, but 90% of the bit part character actors in GOT were amazing. He didn't exactly stand out from the pack. Even amongst that Oberyn Martell is an incredibly strong and memorable character who doesn't even last one season. This is one of the best book to screen adaptations as Oberyn Martell is only in like a quarter of one book and his legacy is still delt books later. GRRM realised he hosed up badly killing him off and tried to catch lightning in a bottle twice with Dark Star Dayne who never got adapted thank gently caress. Its like The Wire - so many loving great actors and side performances but only a few went on to bigger things but the obes who did really dud stand out from the lack (Idris Elba, Michael K Williams, hell Michael B Jordan was the Pedro Pascal of The Wire)
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Hughmoris posted:How is Kim's Convenience? Worth getting in to? I definitely think it's worth a watch, it's a lot of fun. I've been watching through The Strain when I've got some down time, and it's certainly... a show. It's a decent enough time waster, but it really feels like the different plots meander too long before actually intersecting, and some of these characters go too long without having anything to do.
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Lid posted:GRRM realised he hosed up badly killing him off and tried to catch lightning in a bottle twice with Dark Star Dayne who never got adapted thank gently caress. I had forgotten about the dork star, he was the one with the stupid anime hair right? What a mess those books turned into.
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I think Pedro Pascal is bouyed somewhat by the Oberyn performance because of his scenes with Tyrion, coming to the fan favorite's rescue in a time of dire need. That and both characters were still well-written at the time and all, so their scenes together were better than they'd have otherwise been if they'd taken place even a year later in the show. Oy vey, what a downturn. "I will be your champion."
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So the weird thing about the first episode of Resident Alien is that all the alien effects were good but for some reason they went with CG for any scene where you saw a car actually moving and it is super awkward.
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IRQ posted:Are normal people generally ready to get back on board with asoiaf again already? I remember the backlash to the poo poo finale being pretty huge. I found it hilarious how everyone I worked with went from being unable to shut up about GoT to “ohh.  “ overnight. I have no idea if HBO will be able to get the enthusiasm back for their spin-offs but my magic 8 ball is telling me “outlook not good”.
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Hughmoris posted:How is Kim's Convenience? Worth getting in to? I started watching Kim's Convenience at random based on a recommendation and binged the entire thing in two days. I loved it. It's a great feel-good comedy.
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Nundizo posted:is Netflix's 'The Crown' worth watching? Absolutely
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Re: Kim's Convenience; the show overall is a delight but I get bored/restless when it gets too much into Janet & Jung's various dramas. Everything with Appa and Umma is gold, though. They're so perfect for each other.  Also I low-key crush on Pastor Nina and I love how she navigates the Kim's foibles.
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Nundizo posted:is Netflix's 'The Crown' worth watching? To paraphrase John Oliver, do you want to be put in the awkward position of finding Margaret Thatcher sexually appealing? 
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Simone Magus posted:To paraphrase John Oliver, do you want to be put in the awkward position of finding Margaret Thatcher sexually appealing? https://twitter.com/JoelGHodgson/status/1329046240814899205?s=20
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Nundizo posted:Finished the show early this year and I swear I never understood the worship. I always found him to be manipulative, narcissistic and extremely annoying despite this apparently being the unpopular opinion amongst SFU fans. I wish he died during the end of Season 2, maybe then I'd have actually cared for him but I just knew the writers didn't have the balls to do it considering how important he seemed to the show. he was nice to his sister.
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Laterite posted:My touchstone for SFU discourse at the time was the Television Without Pity reviews & forums. God I miss that site. lol their Angel reviews were hysterical. Motherfucker hated doors!
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Lid posted:Its like The Wire - so many loving great actors and side performances but only a few went on to bigger things but the obes who did really dud stand out from the lack (Idris Elba, Michael K Williams, hell Michael B Jordan was the Pedro Pascal of The Wire) Agree on MBJ but Williams and Elba were multi season stars of the show and i'd argue everyone not named Dominic West that wasn't an amateur actor went on to do bigger things after The Wire.
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Looten Plunder posted:Agree on MBJ but Williams and Elba were multi season stars of the show and i'd argue everyone not named Dominic West that wasn't an amateur actor went on to do bigger things after The Wire. Sonja Sohn?
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