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Anne Whateley
Feb 11, 2007
:unsmith: i like nice words

Clitch posted:

Was there an industrial pioneer of the 20th century who wasn't a tin-plated bastard?
Mr. Cadbury was pretty good https://www.history.co.uk/biographies/the-cadbury-family

quote:

Their factory has warm rooms to dry clothes and places to heat food. In 1893, they start buying land around the factory to build a worker’s village. Each house has a garden big enough to grow vegetables. George provides football and cricket fields for the men and boys and a playground and a garden with a lily pond for their wives and daughters. George’s wife helps plan a ‘Garden City’ for their workers. In 1895, 143 cottages are built on 140 acres. Good wages, medical treatment and even pension plans make Cadbury’s employee extremely exceptional.

Carnegie was professionally not good, but he did give away 90% of his fortune

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CaptainSarcastic
Jul 6, 2013



Anne Whateley posted:

Carnegie was professionally not good, but he did give away 90% of his fortune

Isn't that just the Calvinist way of trying to buy your way into heaven?

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

sucks to be right
"Don't post death" had always been a thread rule right from the very start, the OP makes it real clear:

Ornamental Dingbat posted:

Post some delicious schaden. Standard rule applies: no images of death and keep the derails to 3 pages or less.

If someone posts images or video of people dying then report them so the mods can deal with it

relax-o-vision
Feb 21, 2007

Funky See Funky Do posted:

Speaking of Republicans. Gun advocate and US Representative Lauren Boebert is the child of an incestuous coupling between her mother and her mother's first cousin - wrestler Stan Lane.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NU1dqccokmY

Which one is Lauren Boebert?

Takes No Damage
Nov 20, 2004

The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents. We live on a placid island of ignorance in the midst of black seas of infinity, and it was not meant that we should voyage far.


Grimey Drawer

Snowglobe of Doom posted:

"Don't post death" had always been a thread rule right from the very start, the OP makes it real clear:


If someone posts images or video of people dying then report them so the mods can deal with it

While I agree the pileup is a poor example of schadenfreude in the spirit of this thread, none of the videos I've seen have been graphic. Obviously people did get hurt but it's not like the video had bodies in it. Can only hope it just hand't been reported that anyone was seriously hurt when the initial post was made.

CaptainSarcastic posted:

Also, studded tires and snow tires are different things.

NOT TO ME :texas:

Megillah Gorilla
Sep 22, 2003

If only all of life's problems could be solved by smoking a professor of ancient evil texts.



Bread Liar

Junkie Disease posted:

The Hershey guy?

The vomit chocolate guy?

How did it go again? Pay the government to reclassify rotting ingredients which were not fit for human consumption to "additives" and now all Americans think chocolate is supposed to have the same taste as vomit.

His Divine Shadow
Aug 7, 2000

I'm not a fascist. I'm a priest. Fascists dress up in black and tell people what to do.

Megillah Gorilla posted:

Roads are frozen over and you don't have much experience driving in such conditions. Do you:

A) slow down.

B) drive like you would any other day.

C) See a huge pileup of vehicles in the far distance and do nothing to slow down as you approach them at highway speeds.

D) Was never taught to drive properly, basically handed a drivers license at age 16 so anything can loving happen.

Steakandchips
Apr 30, 2009

In the UK we are taught that if it takes you 2m to stop when dry (at 20mph), it will take you 4m in the wet and 20m in icey conditions.

Those distances of course increase depending on the speed you are doing. This poo poo is drilled into our heads, and if we get enough questions on such things wrong we fail the theory test, which is mandatory before the practical driving tests can be sat.

barbecue at the folks
Jul 20, 2007


The Schaden is on me for voluntarily wading through post after post of goons blaming victims of deadly accidents for their misfortune and telling everyone how they would not have been so dumb as to drive unaware into a sudden freeze in Texas of all loving places and lose control of their vehicle with horrible consequences for them and their families

Steakandchips
Apr 30, 2009

?

Nice meltdown.

No, no one said "I would definitely would not have been so dumb as to drive unaware into a sudden freeze in Texas of all loving places and lose control of my vehicle with horrible consequences for me and my family" or anything remotely close to that affect.

If anything, I fully recognise had I drove on such a road, being unaware it's frozen over, if I was able to stop correctly for whatever reason, it's likely that I'd still have been rear ended.

DickParasite
Dec 2, 2004


Slippery Tilde

relax-o-vision posted:

Which one is Lauren Boebert?

The 30 yo restaurant owner from Colorado that graduated highschool six months ago and poisoned a bunch of her customers with undercooked pork.

Fishstick
Jul 9, 2005

Does not require preheating

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Memento posted:

https://twitter.com/msdanifernandez/status/1359712798209503234

Dani Fernandez already works for The House of Mouse, as well

Good!

MAKE NO BABBYS posted:

Tessica has repeatedly said that she’s not looking to sue (although gently caress them, she ought to) and the claim she was planning to a racist dog whistle from the NY Post so let’s just let that one die and stop repeating it, eh?

Ah so you are part of what is loving broken with America constantly wanting to sue yet only feeding money to Lawyers. Good to know. Die in a fire.

(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)

old bean factory
Nov 18, 2006

Will ya close the fucking doors?!

I'm still amazed at this one. Someone went through the effort of selecting/masking it out, and instead of just filling it with a solid colour, they turned down the brightness?

Reminds me of https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_Paul_Neil aka Mr Swirl.

LawfulWaffle
Mar 11, 2014

Well, that aligns with the vibes I was getting. Which was, like, "normal" kinda vibes.

schreibs posted:

Not just that...Texas roads are not salt treated like northern states. This road was an express way owned by a private company that did not treat the road at all and there's a big blow up about that: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/were-roads-treated-for-ice-before-fort-worth-i-35w-crash-lawmakers-want-answers/ar-BB1dCavI

quote:

"Who was responsible for safety on this roadway?" (State Rep) Romero said, calling for an investigation into the crash. "Who was responsible for deicing this portion of our highway? Who dropped the ball and why? Does TxDOT oversee safety measures on tollways or do we just trust these private companies to handle it?"

I’m sure trusting private companies to handle safety measures was lauded by lawmakers as a great idea that saved taxpayers money. When it turns out that the private company was able to decide not to salt the road because the conditions for salting weren’t clearly stated in their contract and they weren’t legally obligated to do anything, I bet no lessons will be learned and Republicans will continue barking for deregulation and privatization

Gromit
Aug 15, 2000

I am an oppressed White Male, Asian women wont serve me! Save me Campbell Newman!!!!!!!

Megillah Gorilla posted:

The vomit chocolate guy?

How did it go again? Pay the government to reclassify rotting ingredients which were not fit for human consumption to "additives" and now all Americans think chocolate is supposed to have the same taste as vomit.

It's weird, isn't it? It's like some strange experiment where they wanted to see if people could be convinced soap was actually tasty. I'd love to hear from a Brit living in the US who has found decent chocolate (that can be bought in most supermarkets, not something artisanal). I tried 5 or 6 different brands there and they were universally awful.

Tarkus
Aug 27, 2000

Gromit posted:

It's weird, isn't it? It's like some strange experiment where they wanted to see if people could be convinced soap was actually tasty. I'd love to hear from a Brit living in the US who has found decent chocolate (that can be bought in most supermarkets, not something artisanal). I tried 5 or 6 different brands there and they were universally awful.

Soap can be tasty! Ever eat Thrills gum?

https://candyfunhouse.ca/products/thrills-gum

one of my faves.

Solice Kirsk
Jun 1, 2004

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LawfulWaffle posted:

I’m sure trusting private companies to handle safety measures was lauded by lawmakers as a great idea that saved taxpayers money. When it turns out that the private company was able to decide not to salt the road because the conditions for salting weren’t clearly stated in their contract and they weren’t legally obligated to do anything, I bet no lessons will be learned and Republicans will continue barking for deregulation and privatization

Did TX salt any of their other roads? Obviously it will still be on the private company, but I live in a snowy winter hellhole and counting on the government to clear and salt roads isn't a given even when we know days in advance what's coming.

Mozi
Apr 4, 2004

Forms change so fast
Time is moving past
Memory is smoke
Gonna get wider when I die
Nap Ghost
They were considering de-icing the roads but figured it would just be salt in the wound.

Butterfly Valley
Apr 19, 2007

I am a spectacularly bad poster and everyone in the Schadenfreude thread hates my guts.

Steakandchips posted:

In the UK we are taught that if it takes you 2m to stop when dry (at 20mph), it will take you 4m in the wet and 20m in icey conditions.

Those distances of course increase depending on the speed you are doing. This poo poo is drilled into our heads, and if we get enough questions on such things wrong we fail the theory test, which is mandatory before the practical driving tests can be sat.

I'm definitely not going to argue the standard of driving isn't miles better in the UK and the driving test rightly much more stringent than the absolute joke of a process in the States, but I don't think the theory test actively translates to real world experience on UK roads and the only way people really learn about how terrifying ice is is by actually skidding on it

nomad2020
Jan 30, 2007

I think my record is something like a half mile stopping distance both backwards and downhill.

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy

Butterfly Valley posted:

I'm definitely not going to argue the standard of driving isn't miles better in the UK and the driving test rightly much more stringent than the absolute joke of a process in the States, but I don't think the theory test actively translates to real world experience on UK roads and the only way people really learn about how terrifying ice is is by actually skidding on it
This is the sort of thing that needs experience to get used to, no amount of theory will prepare you for the situation when your brakes suddenly don't do poo poo. Pilots get drilled on engine failure, stall recovery and other emergency situations for that reason, but the driving training and tests mostly boil down to following the signs correctly.

KozmoNaut
Apr 23, 2008

Happiness is a warm
Turbo Plasma Rifle


Butterfly Valley posted:

the only way people really learn about how terrifying ice is is by actually skidding on it

This is why some sort of winter driving/low-traction driving course should be absolutely mandatory as part of taking a driver's license.

A Pack of Kobolds
Mar 23, 2007



DickParasite posted:

The 30 yo restaurant owner from Colorado that graduated highschool six months ago and poisoned a bunch of her customers with undercooked pork.

You left out her sex offender husband who likes to show his dick to minors at bowling alleys, of which she was listed as a witness on the police report. This was before they married, and the now-congresswoman from Colorado thought that was great husband material.

gschmidl
Sep 3, 2011

watch with knife hands

nomad2020 posted:

I think my record is something like a half mile stopping distance both backwards and downhill.

"Sliding backwards down a hill in a 3 ton ambulance" is mine. Can confirm it's not fun.

xtal
Jan 9, 2011

by Fluffdaddy

Solice Kirsk posted:

The rule for the longest time is if it involves people dying it shouldn't be posted here. Personally I don't see the difference, but it's a rule that is in place for a reason because when it wasn't around there would be pages and pages of fatal accidents posted and it does get tiresome to go through 100 images of plane/motorcycle crashes when all you were in the mood for was a toddler falling off a swing set trying to catch a butterfly or a dog that keeps dropping one ball to pick up another.

You would think "don't be a psychopath" would be an easy rule to follow but some people seem to have a really hard time with this.

Mr. Nice!
Oct 13, 2005

c-spam cannot afford



xtal posted:

You would think "don't be a psychopath" would be an easy rule to follow but some people seem to have a really hard time with this.

There are lots of goons out there. In any large enough sample size of people, you're gonna have some real lovely ones. See permabanned poster randaconda for example.

marshmallow creep
Dec 10, 2008

I've been sitting here for 5 mins trying to think of a joke to make but I just realised the animators of Mass Effect already did it for me

KozmoNaut posted:

This is why some sort of winter driving/low-traction driving course should be absolutely mandatory as part of taking a driver's license.

Hm yes lets make everyone in Texas, all 29 million, take a trip to Illinois or the like in order to get their driver's license; or let's build car sized ice rinks instead, and require everyone to drive on them repeatedly in order to train their skills for what is at best a freak once a year occurrence. And lets do this all while making a driver's license the de facto only form of identification so that you need it for absolutely everything. There is nothing wrong with this idea. Nope, completely feasible.

Out if curiosity i went to my local Walmart here in Texas today and they don't sell winter tires or snow chains. Best you can get is All Season, which is frankly good enough for what Texas normally throws at you. Except for yesterday, when climate change hosed us up.

Zurtilik
Oct 23, 2015

The Biggest Brain in Guardia

xtal posted:

You would think "don't be a psychopath" would be an easy rule to follow but some people seem to have a really hard time with this.

I mean arguably there's kind of a sadism in the whole concept of the thread. I understand there's a line but sometimes it might not be as evident to some as to others.

I'm 100% fine with death and "NSFL" content being banned here. But this is a thread about reveling in the suffering of others.

Olympic Mathlete
Feb 25, 2011

:h:


marshmallow creep posted:

Hm yes lets make everyone in Texas, all 29 million, take a trip to Illinois or the like in order to get their driver's license; or let's build car sized ice rinks instead, and require everyone to drive on them repeatedly in order to train their skills for what is at best a freak once a year occurrence. And lets do this all while making a driver's license the de facto only form of identification so that you need it for absolutely everything. There is nothing wrong with this idea. Nope, completely feasible.

Out if curiosity i went to my local Walmart here in Texas today and they don't sell winter tires or snow chains. Best you can get is All Season, which is frankly good enough for what Texas normally throws at you. Except for yesterday, when climate change hosed us up.

Have you ever heard of a skid pan my guy?



Or a skid control cradle?

Cartoon Man
Jan 31, 2004


drgitlin
Jul 25, 2003
luv 2 get custom titles from a forum that goes into revolt when its told to stop using a bad word.

Gromit posted:

It's weird, isn't it? It's like some strange experiment where they wanted to see if people could be convinced soap was actually tasty. I'd love to hear from a Brit living in the US who has found decent chocolate (that can be bought in most supermarkets, not something artisanal). I tried 5 or 6 different brands there and they were universally awful.

Lindt do a dark chocolate with sea salt that's pretty good. US-made milk chocolate is almost universally bad.

marshmallow creep
Dec 10, 2008

I've been sitting here for 5 mins trying to think of a joke to make but I just realised the animators of Mass Effect already did it for me

Nope, those are new to me. And looking for where they are available in Texas, it seems limited to private racing experience schools in major metropolitan areas that charge between 400 and 1400 dollars, which puts them considerably out of my price range and out of my range to normally travel.

drgitlin
Jul 25, 2003
luv 2 get custom titles from a forum that goes into revolt when its told to stop using a bad word.

KozmoNaut posted:

This is why some sort of winter driving/low-traction driving course should be absolutely mandatory as part of taking a driver's license.

No amount of winter driving courses will help drivers cope with ice if they're in cars fitted with summer tires. Or even all-seasons. It's ice, for gently caress's sake.

KozmoNaut
Apr 23, 2008

Happiness is a warm
Turbo Plasma Rifle


marshmallow creep posted:

Hm yes lets make everyone in Texas, all 29 million, take a trip to Illinois or the like in order to get their driver's license; or let's build car sized ice rinks instead, and require everyone to drive on them repeatedly in order to train their skills for what is at best a freak once a year occurrence. And lets do this all while making a driver's license the de facto only form of identification so that you need it for absolutely everything. There is nothing wrong with this idea. Nope, completely feasible.

Slippery conditions can have multiple reasons, including sudden downpours, gravel on the road, oil spills and worn tires.

Knowing at least the basics of how to react when your vehicle loses traction, and having tried it in practice, is a good idea for any driver. No matter where they live.

I do agree on the idiocy of making driver's licenses and car ownership basically mandatory. There are a lot of people who don't like driving, who don't want to drive and really aren't comfortable behind the wheel, but they're forced to do it because of car-centric planning.

marshmallow creep posted:

Nope, those are new to me. And looking for where they are available in Texas, it seems limited to private racing experience schools in major metropolitan areas that charge between 400 and 1400 dollars, which puts them considerably out of my price range and out of my range to normally travel.

It's only that expensive because so few places offer it and so few people are interested. Make it mandatory, offer it at more facilities, make economy of scale work for you.

drgitlin posted:

No amount of winter driving courses will help drivers cope with ice if they're in cars fitted with summer tires. Or even all-seasons. It's ice, for gently caress's sake.

Knowing the limits of your car's equipment is part of being a responsible driver. As is choosing to not drive if the conditions are bad, but unfortunately due to car-centric planning and onerous work policies, a lot of people are not allowed to make that choice.

Ice is not some mythical no-friction sci-fi substance, it can absolutely be braved on decent all-season tires and in emergency conditions with great care on summer tires. This is one of the important lessons you learn on a winter/low-traction driving course, the difference between tires and how their performance differs in different conditions. You also learn that low traction doesn't mean you just give up and hand Jesus the wheel.

KozmoNaut fucked around with this message at 15:50 on Feb 12, 2021

Serephina
Nov 8, 2005

恐竜戦隊
ジュウレンジャー

Zurtilik posted:

But this is a thread about reveling in the suffering of others.

Misfortune, not suffering. Someone having lost their phone in an air vent and being able to hear it ring for a month is comedic misfortune. Someone having their phone taken away from them and being able to hear their friends trying to ring them is Sadism. It's a bit more blurry when people die to poor fortune (Man dies as he's hit by a lightning bolt for the 3rd time doing the same thing? Tragic, but funny), but I think we can agree as a society that revelling at highway automobile deaths is in poor taste. The 'no deaths' rule is good, it puts an arbitrary line down for those who can't tell the difference.

Mozi
Apr 4, 2004

Forms change so fast
Time is moving past
Memory is smoke
Gonna get wider when I die
Nap Ghost
There was apparently no shoulder and concrete barriers on both sides of the road so I'm not sure what anybody could have done other than know in advance and just not be there in the first place. Scary stuff.

marshmallow creep
Dec 10, 2008

I've been sitting here for 5 mins trying to think of a joke to make but I just realised the animators of Mass Effect already did it for me

Yeah, I can agree that at least getting people comfortable with wet conditions would go a long way in Texas. Especially here in East Texas where it actually rains a fair bit. And I would love to decouple the DL from being the defacto ID. While I'm complaining, give my people some public transit that works, Abbott, god drat it!

Atticus_1354
Dec 10, 2006

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Olympic Mathlete posted:

Have you ever heard of a skid pan my guy?



Or a skid control cradle?



So will these be maintained at the county level, the city level, or by private industry that will charge for their use despite being gov mandated?

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Butterfly Valley
Apr 19, 2007

I am a spectacularly bad poster and everyone in the Schadenfreude thread hates my guts.

marshmallow creep posted:

Hm yes lets make everyone in Texas, all 29 million, take a trip to Illinois or the like in order to get their driver's license; or let's build car sized ice rinks instead, and require everyone to drive on them repeatedly in order to train their skills for what is at best a freak once a year occurrence. And lets do this all while making a driver's license the de facto only form of identification so that you need it for absolutely everything. There is nothing wrong with this idea. Nope, completely feasible.

This is a dumb take for reasons that have already been outlined but skid pans exist and are mandatory to learn on in some countries, and learning to train on a reduced traction surface is incredibly useful for myriad reasons that have nothing to do with ice

marshmallow creep posted:

Nope, those are new to me. And looking for where they are available in Texas, it seems limited to private racing experience schools in major metropolitan areas that charge between 400 and 1400 dollars, which puts them considerably out of my price range and out of my range to normally travel.

It's almost like more should be built as part of a comprehensive overhaul of driving in the United States where it's treated like the high-risk activity that it is, along with serious efforts to reduce the reliance upon the automobile in general??

Even with large parts of the country being beholden to the automobile industry it should still be possible to vastly raise the standards of driving education. But that would require the US to value human life over money so

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