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Best Friends
Nov 4, 2011

Another thing they may try to do is convince her to change her address from where she lives, if it's a high cost of living zip code, to wherever she gets activated, especially if it is camp lejeune. Do not fall for this.

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pkells
Sep 14, 2007

King of Klatch
Cool, thanks for the help. I figured it’s all the same between branches considering it’s governed by the JTR, but I’ve gotten used to nice things in the AF, and wasn’t sure if this was another instance of the USMC eating their own.

Sucks for her, because it’s not even a cool TDY. She’s going to like Jacksonville or somewhere to do admin stuff or something. Another instance of never letting your command know you’re good at stuff I guess.

McNamaras Morons
Feb 6, 2021

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Semper

ded
Oct 27, 2005

Kooler than Jesus
post, av, poster name


loving brilliant

Butter Activities
May 4, 2018
Probation
Can't post for 16 hours!

ded posted:

post, av, poster name


loving brilliant

Wasabi the J
Jan 23, 2008

MOM WAS RIGHT

:fireman: + :discourse:

Slugworth
Feb 18, 2001

If two grown men can't make a pervert happy for a few minutes in order to watch a film about zombies, then maybe we should all just move to Iran!
I live in Jacksonville and found one of these in my bushes. Did it fall out of one of y'all's ospreys? Anyone missing one?

PathAsc
Nov 15, 2011

Hail SS-18 Satan may he cleanse us with nuclear fire

PISS TAPE IS REAL

gently caress, that would look great on my 'random mil poo poo' bench. I wish I had a gift bush.

Slugworth
Feb 18, 2001

If two grown men can't make a pervert happy for a few minutes in order to watch a film about zombies, then maybe we should all just move to Iran!
Well I think something on it's product page might explain what it was doing in my bushes. The gently caress are you marines getting up to??

Eason the Fifth
Apr 9, 2020

Slugworth posted:

I live in Jacksonville and found one of these in my bushes. Did it fall out of one of y'all's ospreys? Anyone missing one?

The best fix for the PRC119 was the four-foot drop, never heard of a forty-foot throw, though

PathAsc
Nov 15, 2011

Hail SS-18 Satan may he cleanse us with nuclear fire

PISS TAPE IS REAL

Eason the Fifth posted:

The best fix for the PRC119 was the four-foot drop, never heard of a forty-foot throw, though

Definitely was there for a good throw of an AN/GRA-39B. The SNCO that hucked it got some at home time after that. Since it was possibly meant for someone's head.

Anyway, mail me that fuckin 6 way

Thump!
Nov 25, 2007

Look, fat, here's the fact, Kulak!



Carteret posted:

Or, and hear me out, her unit may be as scummy as mine was and cut 29 day orders with a day or two in between for 4 months in a row!

Yes I knew this was hosed, but I was just ready to GTFO

Lol mine did that to me for a year straight

PeterCat
Apr 8, 2020

Believe women.

Mister Speaker posted:

For a larf I went to check out their website. I haven't seen any of their hideous work in more than a decade but it's all vividly coming back, especially all the terrible corporate customer bikes commissioned for the likes of Geico, Lance Armstrong, and Snap-On tools. But lmao especially at this:



Gunny Got Divorced

The Rat
Aug 29, 2004

You will find no one to help you here. Beth DuClare has been dissected and placed in cryonic storage.

I never got those tricycle things. You get all the absolute lack of safety that you get from riding a motorcycle, but with none of the sex appeal.

PeterCat
Apr 8, 2020

Believe women.

The Rat posted:

I never got those tricycle things. You get all the absolute lack of safety that you get from riding a motorcycle, but with none of the sex appeal.

They are for old people who can't physically ride a two-wheel motorcycle anymore. They are just giant mobility scooters.

PenisMonkey
Apr 30, 2004

Be gentally.
Oorah let’s take this thread on another float.

McNamaras Morons
Feb 6, 2021

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Does anyone have that dick art book that was assembled years ago? Are there any scans of it available?

Rakekniven
Jun 4, 2000
Forum Veteran
If any non-perma'd users are also looking for a copy of military members (the dick art book) it was Hotel Kpro who printed them, at least as of last year he still has some copies for sale if you PM him.

PathAsc
Nov 15, 2011

Hail SS-18 Satan may he cleanse us with nuclear fire

PISS TAPE IS REAL

Oooooooh

Arson Daily
Aug 11, 2003

My dummy nephew who I was talking about upthread actually got in, got through boot camp, and is at his first duty station. He's enlisted, and going to refuse the vax because my in-laws all have terminal brain poisoning. Anyone know what they're going to do to him? He's only been in for about a year if that makes any difference.

spacetoaster
Feb 10, 2014

Arson Daily posted:

My dummy nephew who I was talking about upthread actually got in, got through boot camp, and is at his first duty station. He's enlisted, and going to refuse the vax because my in-laws all have terminal brain poisoning. Anyone know what they're going to do to him? He's only been in for about a year if that makes any difference.

Negative counseling statement followed by a forced briefing on how the vaccine is good.

If he refuses after that letter of reprimand.


They haven't come out yet and said they're going to start putting folks out, or bars to enlistment, but I imagine that'll be next.

Naked Bear
Apr 15, 2007

Boners was recorded before a studio audience that was alive!
He'll be fine (aside from being dumb) and probably won't get kicked out. It'd be a colossally stupid move to start separating people just for refusing the vaccine when recruitment and retention are already difficult enough. I'd expect DoD will do something similar to what civilian agencies are doing (and what VA, at least, already does for influenza): everyone must either get vaccinated or request a medical and/or religious exception. Employees granted exception will have to be masked and get tested, but we're not going to fire them.

e: and in all likelihood he'll still "voluntarily" get vaccinated anyway.

Naked Bear fucked around with this message at 02:15 on Nov 3, 2021

Vahakyla
May 3, 2013

Naked Bear posted:


e: and in all likelihood he'll still "voluntarily" get vaccinated anyway.


I imagine there's some of this. During my enlisted time as a medic in the Army, I saw several flu shots and various other vaccines being administered in circumstances of questionable consent. I don't know how common it is, nor how it appears in other branches but yeah, I don't think there'll be truly that many non-vaccinated people remaining in the ranks after some time. One way or the other. Now in Air Force ROTC, the hammer is dropping and cadets who are not yet contracted or have not done field training have been informed that they are to "ensure compliance", lest coming back from Christmas break might not happen. Similar threats are for contracted cadets who are not yet on active duty.

Vahakyla fucked around with this message at 02:25 on Nov 3, 2021

mlmp08
Jul 11, 2004

Prepare for my priapic projectile's exalted penetration
Nap Ghost

Arson Daily posted:

My dummy nephew who I was talking about upthread actually got in, got through boot camp, and is at his first duty station. He's enlisted, and going to refuse the vax because my in-laws all have terminal brain poisoning. Anyone know what they're going to do to him? He's only been in for about a year if that makes any difference.

General Officer memorandum of reprimand, followed by initiation of separation and/or bar to reenlistment.

A lot of people decide they'd rather not play this game and get the shot, but that is what is currently in order for vaccine refusals.

If he is ultimately separated and it's characterized as "general," which is currently the lowest form you can get for otherwise honorable service but disobeying the vaccine order, then goodbye GI Bill benefits.

mlmp08 fucked around with this message at 02:31 on Nov 3, 2021

spacetoaster
Feb 10, 2014

mlmp08 posted:

General Officer memorandum of reprimand, followed by initiation of separation and/or bar to reenlistment.

A lot of people decide they'd rather not play this game and get the shot, but that is what is currently in order for vaccine refusals.

The reprimand is a go on 2nd refusal, I have seen nothing on initiation of separation/bar even after the 2nd refusal.

mlmp08
Jul 11, 2004

Prepare for my priapic projectile's exalted penetration
Nap Ghost
I can only say what's in division orders. Bar may be incorrect, I can't recall, but flag and initiation of separation is there. Final catch-all is basically "prep all the paperwork, talk to a JAG next"

spacetoaster
Feb 10, 2014

mlmp08 posted:

I can only say what's in division orders. Bar may be incorrect, I can't recall, but flag and initiation of separation is there. Final catch-all is basically "prep all the paperwork, talk to a JAG next"

gently caress.

I guess I gotta read some poo poo tomorrow.

Wasabi the J
Jan 23, 2008

MOM WAS RIGHT
As deadline looms, Navy and Marine Corps prepare to boot troops who refuse COVID-19 vaccine



quote:

... Sailors and Marines on active duty face administrative discharges from the military if they fail to meet the Navy department’s Nov. 28 coronavirus vaccination deadline, according to the latest orders issued by the services.

Those orders, issued in separate messages this month, give unit commanders a road map on how to proceed with those who refuse to comply with the vaccine mandate.

Vahakyla
May 3, 2013
AF already discharged some trainees.

https://www.airforcemag.com/air-force-covid-vaccines-trainees-airmen-discipline/

Wasabi the J
Jan 23, 2008

MOM WAS RIGHT
Just ask him what was in the vaccines he did take, constantly, and why it's different this time.

But the world needs more UberEATS drivers so w/e.

Wasabi the J
Jan 23, 2008

MOM WAS RIGHT
a HS grad with a poo poo discharge in a fascist society is the upward mover the world needs.

The computer scanning their application will hear them out, surely, and they will never ever become dependent on their family and friends for financial support.

Internet Wizard
Aug 9, 2009

BANDAIDS DON'T FIX BULLET HOLES

One of the only good things that is guaranteed from an enlistment is a solid paycheck and housing for a few years, education benefits during and after, and access to some level of healthcare. And these anti vax morons are throwing that all away lmao

Arson Daily
Aug 11, 2003

If he gets booted he'll just move back to his lovely small hometown and go work at the butter plant or whatever. It just blows me away that he would give up on his dream (yes dream, he's basically that guy from That Thing You Do who's dying to join the marines during Vietnam) and who is a supposed super patriot love it or leave it type. I thought the discipline and the exposure to other people who weren't small town evangelical white people would be good for him but MAGA makes fools of us all I guess.

Butter Activities
May 4, 2018
Probation
Can't post for 16 hours!
The military is your one shot at (assuming you’re not actually too broke to work again) effectively UBI via disability and free healthcare in the US and this idiot is throwing that away.

Arsenic Lupin
Apr 12, 2012

This particularly rapid💨 unintelligible 😖patter💁 isn't generally heard🧏‍♂️, and if it is🤔, it doesn't matter💁.


Do you folks have opinions about Gen. Berger's announcement that maybe losing 75% of first-term marines is a bad strategy?

Internet Wizard
Aug 9, 2009

BANDAIDS DON'T FIX BULLET HOLES

He’s right, it is dumb and expensive.

Time Crisis Actor
Apr 28, 2002

by Hand Knit

Arsenic Lupin posted:

Do you folks have opinions about Gen. Berger's announcement that maybe losing 75% of first-term marines is a bad strategy?

Imagine not treating Marines like poo poo. Insane new meta strat

Best Friends
Nov 4, 2011

Usmc about to enter a whole new level of 28 year olds going "you boots have no idea how much different things were in my marine corps"

LtCol J. Krusinski
May 7, 2013
It’s brutally expensive to recruit, train, and retain good talent in all these technical fields and skills they want to plus up on.

Imagine being a Cybersecurity specialist in something like network warfare and oh also your a fully trained and qualified rifleman and 95% of your worth is based on the PT test.

loving :lol: at that. The people exist, I’m sure, but goddamn that’s gonna be an expensive play. I’m curious if it’s cheaper to spend and retain than the usual 75%+ churn rate.

I can’t imagine a USMC that retains 30% of its first term marines. Let alone anything approaching USAF or even Army levels of retention.

If he does this he better be doing it with the buy in of all his other commanding generals because it’s gonna take 8-16 years to really see the fruits of the labor on something like this. And the guys that come after him will have to be as much if not even more sold on the concept.

It’s gonna be expensive, but I want to know if it’s more or less expensive than the status quo.
(P.S. This is all assuming we have a bit of time before the next big war to make poo poo like this happen)

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Internet Wizard
Aug 9, 2009

BANDAIDS DON'T FIX BULLET HOLES

Most of the really expensive SIGINT people promote really slowly, so a second enlistment for them is gonna be another 4 years of paying an E-3 through maybe 5 for a lot of them. Entry pipeline for lings is something like a quarter of a million+ for two years of training. Seems like it would be cheaper to keep more of them around than constant churn.

The Marines are also the most willing to drop people who already have their TS clearance out of the language courses and reclass them into random other dumb jobs instead though. Really inefficient usage.

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