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fletcher posted:
I wish it worked this way lol
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fletcher posted:I've been leasing a dedicated server from Future Hosting. My ticket to the sales team went unanswered for months so I am getting a little nervous about the state of their business. That and they don't seem to be allowing anything else in Santa Clara so when my machine is EOL I am SOL. Must it be CA? Is Oregon OK? OVH is bigger and less shady than the options you’re looking at. You can get 8x that hardware for the same price too. https://us.ovhcloud.com/bare-metal/best-value/bv-2/
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Feb 2, 2021 04:20
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Rufus Ping posted:I wish it worked this way lol drat  Twerk from Home posted:Must it be CA? Is Oregon OK? OVH is bigger and less shady than the options you’re looking at. You can get 8x that hardware for the same price too. Restricting my search to CA seems to really limit the options, I think Oregon would probably fine. Thanks for the suggestion! That looks pretty sweet.
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Feb 2, 2021 04:38
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Just got an email that Nosupportlinuxhosting was hacked and is shutting down. No other real details. No Support Linux Hosting is Shutting Down On February 8, 2021, a hacker successfully compromised all the servers we use to operate our business including the No Support Linux Hosting web site, Admin section, and our customer database. We can no longer operate the No Support Linux Hosting business. All customers should immediately download backups of their websites and databases through cPanel. Thank you to all our customers for the many years of business. We appreciate it. http://www.nosupportlinuxhosting.com/
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Feb 9, 2021 05:54
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Can't say they didn't warn you
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Feb 9, 2021 06:08
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Rufus Ping posted:Can't say they didn't warn you I would say I had a pretty good 10ish year run with them. Total spent for 3 basic sites was $26/year. Time to upgrade I guess. Pulled the DNS servers and parked the domains for now.
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Feb 9, 2021 06:22
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Rufus Ping posted:Can't say they didn't warn you This is amazing 
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Feb 13, 2021 07:07
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I read the OP and quite a few pages of this thread but still don't really have an answer so here goes. Seven years ago I tried a silly website (Wordpress) and it went fine, but I got busy with other stuff and stopped everything. Five years ago I got a notification it was expiring and I just canceled everything. Haven't thought about it since. That was through Apis. When I go to Apis now it looks totally different from seven years ago. And when I went to register it looks like my account was cleared out when I canceled everything. Which is completely fine. I'm training in webdev now and want a site so I can host my training and practice. I know that I can do all of my education without having an actual site, but I learn by having projects to work towards and without it being an actual site I don't feel motivation. I just want to make a site that I'll probably be the only person using, but could show to others if I felt the need to. Ideally the IT stuff is minimal needs. I'm just interested in having a playground for HTML/CSS/JS/React and I also have to learn about Docker containers. I want to learn about this stuff by making a fake beer brewery page. I learn best by having a project goal in mind and I'd love to own a brewery one of these days. I'll never brew a good enough beer to own my own brewery, but I can use that dream to learn what I have to learn about webdev. My question is should I go back to Apis or should I go somewhere else to achieve what I want to achieve? Also, Is the recommendation to buy my domain through someplace standard or is buying through whatever host I pay for is fine?
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Feb 15, 2021 17:55
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Earth posted:I read the OP and quite a few pages of this thread but still don't really have an answer so here goes. PERSONALLY I would spin up any new projects on AWS. You can use the free tier or just pay a couple bucks/month and shut them off when you don't need them.
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Feb 15, 2021 17:59
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Bob Morales posted:PERSONALLY I would spin up any new projects on AWS. You can use the free tier or just pay a couple bucks/month and shut them off when you don't need them. My concern with that is I've seen where people forget to shut something off and get a bill for $2k. Seven years ago I was struggling to save $12 on hosting so I was very careful about what I picked. I am thankful to say I can afford more than I could seven years ago and don't have to worry about finding the cheapest possible hosting. With that said, a surprise $2k bill would be incredibly lovely.
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Feb 15, 2021 18:17
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Earth posted:My concern with that is I've seen where people forget to shut something off and get a bill for $2k. Seven years ago I was struggling to save $12 on hosting so I was very careful about what I picked. I am thankful to say I can afford more than I could seven years ago and don't have to worry about finding the cheapest possible hosting. With that said, a surprise $2k bill would be incredibly lovely. I think they have ways to limit that etc Use a prepaid card whatever. Buttcoins
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Feb 15, 2021 18:26
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AWS is terrible advice. Don't get AWS or a VPS or anything else that requires a degree in IT to manage when you really just need a website that works. If you just need a simple site, get a simple shared hosting package. Apis Networks is now Hostineer and nem has shifted his focus mainly to developing his control panel ApisCP. I'm not sure what SA based hosts are left besides him and me, but if you don't want to manage a server or service, shared hosting will be a solid option.
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Feb 15, 2021 20:39
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Bob Morales posted:I think they have ways to limit that etc Genius way to get forwarded to collections assuming you don't end up accidentally hanging yourself from all the rope AWS gives you first. Earth posted:
Check out DarkLotus/Lithium Hosting. These days I focus on platform development for ApisCP, which is the platform that's always powered Apis Networks. Buying a domain through a hosting provider is fine as long as the provider isn't dodgy. In the past, Hytek Hosting comes to mind, have held domains hostage over dispute. It's less of a problem now that fewer dodgy providers remain. Edit: yeah what DL said above ^^^
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Feb 15, 2021 20:42
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nem posted:Genius way to get forwarded to collections assuming you don't end up accidentally hanging yourself from all the rope AWS gives you first. AWS will almost certainly fraud check or hold your account (and associated amazon retail account) with most prepaid cards due to extreme abuse
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Feb 15, 2021 20:42
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It's pretty easy to get the $1000 free aws credit offer if you have a plausible looking one-page "startup" website with its own domain. Perhaps this could be your first project!
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Feb 15, 2021 20:55
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DarkLotus posted:AWS is terrible advice. Don't get AWS or a VPS or anything else that requires a degree in IT to manage when you really just need a website that works. Thank you for jumping in. I don't want to mess with AWS until I have to. I'm really just needing a site to get my HTML/CSS/JS/React up to scratch. nem posted:Genius way to get forwarded to collections assuming you don't end up accidentally hanging yourself from all the rope AWS gives you first. Thank you too. I'm now remembering more of this and you were always a great person with my first foray into web dev, nem. You're really the reason I'd like to stick with a Goon offered service. You left an incredibly positive impression on my dumb rear end. Sounds like Lithium is the way to go for my perceived needs. Rufus Ping posted:It's pretty easy to get the $1000 free aws credit offer if you have a plausible looking one-page "startup" website with its own domain. No thanks to this. I just want to make a fake brewery page and have a place to stick my self-directed education results. Funny enough the original reason I launched a webpage was because I did a smartphone app and they required I had a webpage for it to get to the store. That app did pretty well and ended up making me $20 that they never paid out. Since money was a huge concern I had to stop the payment to have the app on the store since it made less than the cost to have it on the store and then with no app there was no reason for a webpage. It was a stressful few years and a lot fell through the cracks. DarkLotus, I do have one question before I start the sign up process. Is it possible to have a store with your hosting? As part of my exercises I might try to make some kind of store that I can order stickers on the fake brewery page or something. I know that's probably a dumb question, but I already called myself a dumb rear end so keep in mind I am aware there's a lot to learn
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Feb 15, 2021 21:54
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Earth posted:Thank you for jumping in. I don't want to mess with AWS until I have to. I'm really just needing a site to get my HTML/CSS/JS/React up to scratch. Earth posted:DarkLotus, I do have one question before I start the sign up process. Is it possible to have a store with your hosting? As part of my exercises I might try to make some kind of store that I can order stickers on the fake brewery page or something. I know that's probably a dumb question, but I already called myself a dumb rear end so keep in mind I am aware there's a lot to learn Short answer, yes, you can run a store without issue but it's on you to develop and implement 
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Feb 15, 2021 22:39
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DarkLotus posted:No worries, all I ever see here and on /r/webhosting is "AWS AWS AWS AWS AWS and VPS" when people just want to host Wordpress and have it work. It gets frustrating. Cool. Cool. I don't want Bezos to get more money and I don't own any Amazon stock so I wouldn't even be helping out myself by buying there. I don't want Wordpress. I just want a playground that I'm willing to pay for. I'm fine developing and implementing. Gotta learn somehow!
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Feb 15, 2021 23:03
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DarkLotus posted:AWS is terrible advice. Don't get AWS or a VPS or anything else that requires a degree in IT to manage when you really just need a website that works. To be fair, he said he was training and wanted a real site to mess with. If he just wanted a site, I agree that managed hosting makes the most sense.
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Feb 16, 2021 00:37
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To be fair if someone just wants to host some HTML and CSS somewhere without any server side AWS and GCP are going to be cheaper than just about anything out there. Look at GitHub Pages for cheap as free static hosting as well, you can point your domain there these days.
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Feb 16, 2021 01:11
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WHERE MY HAT IS AT posted:To be fair if someone just wants to host some HTML and CSS somewhere without any server side AWS and GCP are going to be cheaper than just about anything out there. Look at GitHub Pages for cheap as free static hosting as well, you can point your domain there these days. Yeah you can get free static hosting from GitHub, GitLab, and many other places. The ideal choice for HTML sites is Neocities but you need to pay for a custom domain name.
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Feb 16, 2021 02:02
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To be fair, if you want a BMW an E46 or an E36 is a great platform* *If you know your way around an engine. Always read the audience and don't mire someone in details because something works for your skillset. There are plenty of inexpensive VPS providers out there, I've benchmarked many of them. Performance varies and remember you're your own sysadmin when things go south.
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Feb 16, 2021 04:46
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The original question wanted somewhere to host some static assets and also eventually wanted to learn about docker containers, is there any shared host that will do that? Genuine question as I haven’t touched one in probably a decade. A static site on S3 with a CloudFront for a custom host name will cost you less than 50c a month and requires 0 upkeep. You can do the same with GCS for a few bucks a month and use cloud run to try out docker in the cloud as well. Cloud providers aren’t scary, there’s loads of fully managed services available these days and you can set budget alerts or caps if that’s a concern.
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Feb 16, 2021 05:40
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WHERE MY HAT IS AT posted:A static site on S3 with a CloudFront for a custom host name will cost you less than 50c a month and requires 0 upkeep. This is also <$1-3/year on nearlyfreespeech, justhost, or a number of other shared hosting services and requires 0 upkeep, without having to learn S3 and IAM Or free cloudfront with netlify/surge/now/etc, so I am kind of 50/50 on this. If I wanted s3/cloudfront I'd probably just put it on netlify
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Feb 16, 2021 08:49
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How does one actually go and buy a domain name that they can keep on their own? Everything that comes up is ad and seo stuff for services. Which is the minimalistic “just give my ip to the dns people” service?
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Feb 16, 2021 09:43
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go to gandi.net or internetbs.net or dynadot.com, buy it, and use your registrar's dns service or dns.he.net or cloudns.net
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Huh, I didn’t realize those weren’t connected. Since I don’t understand how that actually works is there a resource you can point me to that explains it?
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Feb 16, 2021 09:55
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Buy a domain - Go to a decent site and insert your money - Uncheck everything except what you need (auto renew if this isn't a throwaway domain, privacy probably) - You'll get an email from a super generic sounding domain about ICANN contact verification, click the verify link to confirm your email Get DNS - Register at a separate DNS provider, or use your provider's (I like dnsmadeeasy, but they're not free and start at $5/m) - You'll get nameservers. Put those nameservers into your domain at your domain registrar (if you don't use your registrar) - Add an "A" record at your DNS provider, value is IP you want it to point to
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Feb 16, 2021 10:01
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I’m sure there’s a reason to not use he.net for dns but it’s free
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Well thanks. I always just assumed that DNS registrars and DNS servers were just the same people.
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Feb 16, 2021 13:49
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WHERE MY HAT IS AT posted:The original question wanted somewhere to host some static assets and also eventually wanted to learn about docker containers, is there any shared host that will do that? Genuine question as I haven’t touched one in probably a decade. No, and feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, but Docker lacks a suitable non-commercial ACL solution. Plesk as well as my implementation aren't intended for multi-tenant administration. Same is said for systemd, systemctl will leak all services to the user if permitted access. Isolation is hard to do on shared hosting and there's simply not a market to implement this for as VPS provides requisite isolation between guests while giving users the ability to run Docker and latch it into systemd without disclosing neighboring services. There's a time and place for everything. Learn Docker first locally before rolling it out remotely. Running a server is a big responsibility. If one cannot set aside 10 hours a week minimum to learn how to run a server, then hold off until it's reasonable to budget in that time. Focus on static sites, learn how to code before wearing another hat. On AWS it's the level of complexity necessary to achieve the desired outcome that's the problem; these are better geared toward enterprise rollouts in which scalability is limited solely by your credit limit and even then too that complexity isn't a good thing for billing clarity. AWS is happy to give you that rope. If OP is used to shared hosting and firing that engine back up, maybe steer OP toward that route or something less complex than throwing OP into the deep end without swimmies. Edit: reminds me of the recent trend of crypto-miners targeting Docker and AWS because how widespread this misadvice is. nem fucked around with this message at 19:16 on Feb 16, 2021 |
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loving great, I switched to Office 365 Business Standard for my mail and I already broke the Outlook web interface. How in the gently caress. --edit: bah, some AD replication delay, because I yanked the same email address from my Live account while setting things up. Combat Pretzel fucked around with this message at 06:43 on Feb 18, 2021 |
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Biowarfare posted:go to gandi.net or internetbs.net or dynadot.com, buy it, and use your registrar's dns service or dns.he.net or cloudns.net  *cough* DarkLotus *cough*
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SpaceSDoorGunner posted:Well thanks. I always just assumed that DNS registrars and DNS servers were just the same people.
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Feb 21, 2021 16:55
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Anybody ever use https://dedicated.com/ ? They've got some nice prices for 1U west coast colos (los angeles). Company seems decent enough from poking around online. Sales has been quite responsive to my questions so I've at least got a good first impression.
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Feb 22, 2021 21:21
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They were endofreality/usdedicated before I believe. Decent place, average at everything. Wouldnt be a bad choice They host some lovely people though - like people that attack nike.com etc, so expect problems if you plan on using it as a VPN or proxying through it for anything like browsing google or downloading from youtube, it's likely already banned from those. Hosting a site no issues
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Feb 22, 2021 22:03
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Biowarfare posted:They were endofreality/usdedicated before I believe. Decent place, average at everything. Wouldnt be a bad choice Thanks for the details! Much appreciated.
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I'm looking for a recommendation for a host or at least a set of features if any web wizards have any. I am working with a volunteer org on updating their website, which is currently just WordPress running on a super old GoDaddy plan. This plan in particular gets 100gb of storage, support for 1 website, and that's about it (no SSL). It's running for $10/month. The website is pretty low traffic but it still needs to, you know, exist. Our plan needs to go - even for a WordPress instance it is having issues - slow response time, out of date packages, super long download speeds (for backups). The new host needs to provide SSL on the cheap (I don't mind doing it myself via Let's Encrypt or something) and be fairly "modern" - unfortunately I'm not 100% sure what that means in the technical sense, though. We have flirted with the idea of something with cPanel and it looks super handy, but is probably about as complicated as anything should get. I don't want to set them up with AWS or anything complicated if I can avoid it. Does anyone have any advice? As a small fantasy my org works a little with sustainability - it would feel good if the host ran on renewable electricity or something but it's not necessary. Thank you!
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Namecheap offers managed WordPress hosting, free SSL and will help you migrate from GoDaddy. https://www.namecheap.com/wordpress/migrate/ Their prices aren't bad either.
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Wordpress in TYOOL 2021, why I never
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