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They’ve got a fair point, all the Enterprise characters are fairly likeable or at least blandly inoffensive. They just don’t have any chemistry together beyond the main trio of Archer, T’Pol, and Trip.
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HD DAD posted:Yesss, finally there’s two Enterprise defenders in this thread. Wait till you get to seasons 3 and especially 4. I like Enterprise, OP. I think it had a lot of Voyager syndrome but was on average better.
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Feb 18, 2021 07:12
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Enterprise is loving boring. It's just so dull
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Feb 18, 2021 07:17
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I actually don't mind Faith of the Heart. It is fine
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Feb 18, 2021 07:18
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Royal Updog posted:I actually don't mind Faith of the Heart. It is fine https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JNgC8tc-x8 Archer's Theme is way better. Also hello, yes, Enterprise is a decent show, it just doesn't get good until Season 3.
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Feb 18, 2021 07:44
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I’ve been defending Enterprise for 20 years  
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8MkYdtU61Y Brought to mind because she used Archer's Theme instead of Faith of the Heart.
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Feb 18, 2021 08:15
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Powered Descent posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8MkYdtU61Y This is a really good video. The transitions from the DS9 theme to the Voyager theme, and then from Voyager to Archer's theme are really standout moments.
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Feb 18, 2021 08:32
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Powered Descent posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8MkYdtU61Y Man, Voyager really never lived up to that theme at all, huh? It’s easily the best Berman-era theme. I’m still not a fan of Archer’s Theme, but it sounds a whole lot better when played by something other than an anemic soft rock guitar.
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Feb 18, 2021 08:39
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Go in a completely different tonal direction for Disco season 4 and have Rob Zombie do the theme song.
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Feb 18, 2021 08:41
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Gonz posted:Go in a completely different tonal direction for Disco season 4 and have Rob Zombie do the theme song. Just have it be Dragula, only replace "Dragula" with "Discovery".
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Feb 18, 2021 08:43
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I will also accept More Human Than Human or Thunder Kiss '65. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPNFVj-pISU
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Feb 18, 2021 08:45
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God, could you imagine the how big the brain cracks in the weird Twitter chuds who hatewatch New Trek would be if Disco S4 blasts onto the scene with Discovery pew pewing to Rob Zombie? Fuuuuuuck man.
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Timby posted:Great, you just made me ponder the passage of time and remember that I'm divorced, single, unemployed and my main claim to fame as I rapidly approach my 37th birthday is having a deplorable excess of behind-the-scenes Trek knowledge. Thanks a lot, jerk.  Tighclops posted:I knew Enterprise would abandon its premise completely by the end of the first episode when they suddenly had phaser weapons with the exact same audio and visual effects from Voyager Sanguinia posted:Remember when Enterprise had their first space battle and they were using these weird energy cannons that shot little red bolts and were kind of useless, and how they didn't even get all the way through Season 1 before they got standard Phasers and Photon Torpedos along with the Identical To Shield Armor Plating just so we could keep writing Space Battles the exact same way we always did? Timby posted:Hull polarization is at 62 percent I know I've posted this multiple times before, but I remember watching that first episode of Enterprise and just completely swearing off the show. I was so pissed that after having been promised "oh no, we're totally changing things up," it felt just like a return to formula. I never watched the show again while it was still in production. I went back and skimmed the show a few years ago. I still feel like I absolutely made the right call in swearing off the show.
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Feb 18, 2021 08:48
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gently caress it, rob Zombie themes for all new trek shows. Dig through borg droids And burn through the soong droids And slam in the back of my Sirena
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Cojawfee posted:gently caress it, rob Zombie themes for all new trek shows. Rob Zombie on the show as Vice Admiral Zombie. And there's a Captain Spaulding hologram, too.
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When Warf joins the cast of DS9 I am glad that they establish he is actually good at fighting. Having him get chumped was practically a running gag on TNG.
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Cojawfee posted:gently caress it, rob Zombie themes for all new trek shows. [muffled Picard in the background] "RIOS! Turn that garbage down!"
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Feb 18, 2021 09:14
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Despite my criticisms of Enterprise over the last few days, I'm actually more or less a defender of the show. I actually loved it when it was on, though I haven't revisited it, so I don't know if it holds up. I think it's way better than Voyager. I mostly criticize it from a viewpoint of wanting the best for it and wishing it had really made it.
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I want to like Enterprise but I'm still agog at how they took Scott Bakula, a charming, charismatic, likeable actor, and made Archer such an impossible prick. I watch only for Shran.
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Gonz posted:Go in a completely different tonal direction for Disco season 4 and have Rob Zombie do the theme song.
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Feb 18, 2021 13:54
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Enterprise has pockets so it's objectively the best series.
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Nitrousoxide posted:Enterprise has pockets so it's objectively the best series. Pretty sure TNG had an entire pocket universe
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Oh yeah, enterprise got torpedoes after finding they exist on that klingon ship in the gas giant, they just never acknowledge it. Stoked for season 3/4 to find out what nerds are pissed off about. I'm a nerd so maybe I'll be pissed off! Tune in to find out. It's 7:30 am the day of the perseverance rover landing so that gives me about 6 episodes before I briefly switch over to NASA TV.
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down1nit posted:Oh yeah, enterprise got torpedoes after finding they exist on that klingon ship in the gas giant, they just never acknowledge it. If you already like the show now, you'll probably like everything except the very last episode. Enjoy.
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Yeah honestly just go in knowing the showrunner for season 4 wrote the second-to-last episode as a series finale.
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I just watched Voyager episode 3, which was the second causality time paradox episode in a row, but I enjoyed it. It didn't make a lot of sense in parts but I liked Tom and Kathryn's on the fly bullshitting to other characters when they were trapped a day in the past. They were very organic in a way I don't think a TNG character would be. I love Tom telling this kid that actually he is a demon and he eats children. Also Kes had a psychic vision about this dead planet and Neelix immediately is unsupportive and like "It's all in your head it was just a nightmare you idiot". And what's funny is after Janeway fixes everything she still has the nightmare and he still tells Kes it's all in her head and she needs to chillax but this time he's right. I also really enjoyed Tuvok. He's extremely reasonable. His "I feel I would be doing you a disservice if I didn't point out there is no logical reason to believe Janeway was in this room, however because I have no alternative suggestions for a course of action I recommend we go forward with your approach." Thanks Tuvok you're alright buddy.
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Neelix spends the first season and a half constantly gaslighting Kes and it’s creepy as gently caress
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HD DAD posted:Yeah honestly just go in knowing the showrunner for season 4 wrote the second-to-last episode as a series finale. Thanks guys. I'll keep that in mind. Edit: thanks DAD
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FlamingLiberal posted:Neelix spends the first season and a half constantly gaslighting Kes and it’s creepy as gently caress To be unreasonably fair to him, her psychic powers are pretty vague and out there, and no one from her species has demonstrated them before except in third hand ancient stories no one of her species even believes.
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Sir Lemming posted:If you already like the show now, you'll probably like everything except the very last episode. Enjoy. HD DAD posted:Yeah honestly just go in knowing the showrunner for season 4 wrote the second-to-last episode as a series finale. And then in These Are The Voyages it turns out Tucker, the chief engineer of Earth's first Warp 5 ship, doesn't even have a degree (I think they say he didn't even finish high school) but started out working on boat engines. I thought that a subtle bit of shade thrown.
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Ok, I am done Disco S3 and I generally liked it. The emotional beats resonated with me - probably due to being acted very well even though I really don't care for 3/4 of the cast nor know most of their names. I was dismayed tho trying to get a rundown on YouTube that the first E: For those wondering it was Nerdrotic, and Heelvsbabyface who I quickly learned were not good people.
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It's strange, Star Trek was always pretty woke or progressive or whatever the era-appropriate term was. The change from "where no man has gone before" to "where no one has gone before" is a prime example, as is the numerous female characters who are unmarried and capable professionals. And all the pacifism and tolerance of TNG. Picard is basically a SJW.
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Where are the furry races though
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John F Bennett posted:Where are the furry races though TAS
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The Animated Adventures of Gene Roddenberry's Star Trek? Are those actually any good?
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John F Bennett posted:The Animated Adventures of Gene Roddenberry's Star Trek? Are those actually any good? Terrible, but weirdly entertaining. If you ever wanted to see Fifty-Foot-Tall Spock, Kirk meeting the devil, or Uhura saving the Enterprise from a planet of man-enslaving witches, it’s the show for you.
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skasion posted:Terrible, but weirdly entertaining. If you ever wanted to see Fifty-Foot-Tall Spock, Kirk meeting the devil, or Uhura saving the Enterprise from a planet of man-enslaving witches, it’s the show for you. That last one is a particularly great moment - Uhura is the highest ranking officer aboard that hasn't been mindjobbed by the space sirens, and she solves the problem by stunning the dogshit out of everybody and just dragging her people out of there by the heels. Uhura gives zero fucks, it's amazing.
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Vintersorg posted:I clicked their channel name and what do I see as recent videos? Defending Gina Carano. So gently caress. I found ONE person so far who wasn't a piece of poo poo and mostly liked the season but they weren't a chud. Trek youtubers I enjoy are Steve Shives and Jesse Gender. Neither of them is chuddy. It's always a matter of taste with youtubers though so no promises.
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John F Bennett posted:The Animated Adventures of Gene Roddenberry's Star Trek? Are those actually any good? Excellent and extremely good
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