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Pilfered Pallbearers posted:Heat is not an issue as said. Thanks to you and Butterfly! I can do that.
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Pahonix posted:So it seems this build is just out to frustrate me. I got motherboard on the box, cpu, cooler, ram, m.2 ssd, and gpu all installed. Power supply is chillin on the table next to it with the motherboard power cable and cpu power cable hooked up as well as the gpu power cable hooked up. Monitor is plugged in via display port and a usb mouse is plugged in. Pretty sure I found the culprit. FML. Is there any hope? Or did I just wash $550 down the drain?
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# ? Feb 19, 2021 05:54 |
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Pahonix posted:Pretty sure I found the culprit. Very flat pliers. Very steady hands. Very slow movements.
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Pahonix posted:Pretty sure I found the culprit. Rip. Last time that happened to me was like 15 years ago, but I was able to say it shipped OOB bent and get a refund or exchange. Might be worth pursuing before taking a plier risk.
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Pahonix posted:Pretty sure I found the culprit. Is that a crack in the base wafer across the corner? That’s not great. For bent pins a tweezers or a hollow tube end from mechanical pencil can be used as well to straighten.
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# ? Feb 19, 2021 08:21 |
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iv46vi posted:Is that a crack in the base wafer across the corner? I was just about to mention a mechanical pencil, helped me rescue a college buddy's proc many years ago. Yeah if that PCB is cracked it might be hosed. I haven't built with AMD since like 2006. They still use pins???
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cubicle gangster posted:It was the drivers! Samsung has drivers for their drives I guess. Even if everything's looks fine in Device Manager I suggest installing the motherboard chipset drivers. Maybe I missed it but I didn't think I had the Trusted Platform Module showing up before that, even as an unknown device. Even if it was there it didn't work.
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How accurate is microcenters website for specific stores? There is a store 2 hours away that says it has 3060tis in stock but only for in store purchase. I don’t want to make the drive if they don’t have the card.
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# ? Feb 20, 2021 19:48 |
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one stick is bad two new sticks three good ram sticks I shouldn't run these in non-DC mode, right?
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South posted:How accurate is microcenters website for specific stores? There is a store 2 hours away that says it has 3060tis in stock but only for in store purchase. I don’t want to make the drive if they don’t have the card. I think it varies a bit by store - I've found my store reliable, but have seen reports of incorrect stock amounts for other stores. Honestly I'd think the bigger problem might be that those two get gobbled up by people who live closer in the 2 hours it takes to drive there.
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I would appreciate any input on this. I'm planning to piece everything together over a few weeks/months if I can snag any good sales. What country are you in? NH, USA (not close enough to the Microcenter in Boston) What are you using the system for? Gaming, general internetting What's your budget? $1200ish, including the graphics card Monitor resolution / refresh rate? 3440x1440, 144 Hz. I don't need to hit 144 Hz on everything I play, but I'd like to run stuff on Ultra and above 60 fps. PCPartPicker Part List CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor ($199.99 @ Adorama) Thermal Compound: Arctic Silver 5 High-Density Polysynthetic Silver 3.5 g Thermal Paste ($5.97 @ Amazon) Motherboard: Asus ROG STRIX B450-F GAMING II ATX AM4 Motherboard ($129.00 @ Walmart) Memory: Crucial Ballistix 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory ($79.95 @ B&H) Storage: Western Digital SN750 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($128.00 @ Amazon) Storage: Western Digital Black 4 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($149.99 @ Newegg) Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon RX 6800 16 GB Video Card Case: Fractal Design Focus G ATX Mid Tower Case ($59.99 @ B&H) Power Supply: Corsair RM (2019) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($124.99 @ Best Buy) Optical Drive: LG WH16NS40 Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer ($0) Case Accessory: NZXT Aperture M Card Reader Custom: StarTech 4 Port PCI Express PCIe SuperSpeed USB 3.0 Controller Card ($41.55 @ Adorama) Total: $919.43 Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available Generated by PCPartPicker 2021-02-20 14:34 EST-0500 Some other notes: I know a blu ray drive is stupid, but I already have it and I intend to have some sort of optical drive on this build. I threw in a card reader and some extra USB ports since I would prefer not to have externals laying around. If anyone knows any better choices for those, I would love to hear it. I also don't expect to get any graphics cards anytime soon, so I will probably put my 1070 Ti in there if I have everything else together. That card is just over 2 years old, while the rest of my current build is 8+. I also don't care about RGB stuff since my computer stays under my desk, so I would take any suggestions for savings there.
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Deeters posted:I would appreciate any input on this. I'm planning to piece everything together over a few weeks/months if I can snag any good sales. If you intend to use the optical drive like once a year, you could get a better case and just connect the optical drive with the case open when you need it. That’s what I do. Also not sure what you mean about the extra USB ports and why you added them. Not that the RX6800 is a terrible card, but if you’re waiting months anyway I’d probably try and grab a 3060/3060Ti at MSRP. Price/perf is generally better. On a $1200 build an SN750 is overkill, I’d save the $30 (or use it towards a better GPU or a 5600) and get an SN550. That price is also very high for a 4TB drive. There’s almost no reason for a WD black drive.
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# ? Feb 20, 2021 21:26 |
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Banzai 3 posted:What country are you in? - USA. I do have a Microcenter nearby. Since this post (that didn't get any feedback, which I think is good) I've managed to get a 5900x, 3080, and some extra budget, so it's time for the rest of the build. I also checked in the monitor thread on the monitor specifically. There are a few changes based on continuing to read the thread and I'm planning on getting a flash drive for BIOS flashing, but as someone that hasn't done a build before, am I missing anything, or have I made any fatal flaws (I know this is a bit overboard)? Do I need a fan controller? Thermal paste? Anything else? Is this motherboard overkill? I'm planning on buying in the next few days, so feedback is much appreciated. PCPartPicker Part List CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 5900X 3.7 GHz 12-Core Processor ($549.00) CPU Cooler: Scythe Mugen 5 Rev. B 51.17 CFM CPU Cooler ($49.99 @ Amazon) Motherboard: Asus ROG STRIX B550-E GAMING ATX AM4 Motherboard ($261.17 @ Amazon) Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory ($169.99 @ Newegg) Storage: Western Digital Blue SN550 2 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($224.99 @ Amazon) Video Card: EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 10 GB FTW3 ULTRA GAMING Video Card ($950.00) Case: Fractal Design Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case ($89.99 @ Newegg) Power Supply: *SeaSonic FOCUS 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply ($109.99 @ B&H) Case Fan: ARCTIC P12 PST 56.3 CFM 120 mm Fans 5-Pack ($40.60 @ Amazon) Monitor: LG 34GK950F-B 34.0" 3440x1440 144 Hz Monitor ($896.99 @ Adorama) Keyboard: Logitech K120 Wired Standard Keyboard ($12.99 @ Monoprice) Total: $3355.70 Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available *Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria Generated by PCPartPicker 2021-02-20 15:37 EST-0500
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Building a new rig as both a home PC and for gaming, although I'm not bothered about running things at max settings or anything. GPU market looks crazy so I'm sticking with my two year old one for now. For simplicity's sake (2 young kids at home so time is limited) I'm considering buying this bundle - https://www.scan.co.uk/products/3xs-b550-hardware-bundle-amd-ryzen-5-5600x-asus-strix-b550-f-16gb-rgb-ddr4-amd-wraith-stealth A friend is pointing out that for similar money I could go with an i7-10700-3.8 (so 8 cores and 16 threads), which apparently matches up with consoles in terms of cores, as well as get slightly better ram. How significant would this jump be? Is there a third way to go? I had assumed AMD were still ahead so was surprised to be recommended an Intel. Trying to gauge whether it's worth the extra hassle. Any help very much appreciated.
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Pilfered Pallbearers posted:If you intend to use the optical drive like once a year, you could get a better case and just connect the optical drive with the case open when you need it. That’s what I do. Thanks. That motherboard has 7 USB ports and I wanted more total, so I found a PCIe card to expand that. The card reader was to have one less thing on my desk. I use it often with cameras. Would a "better" case just mean more airflow since there's no optical drive or card reader in the way? The other stuff is very good info. I'm always happy to find places to save.
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Deeters posted:Thanks. That motherboard has 7 USB ports and I wanted more total, so I found a PCIe card to expand that. The card reader was to have one less thing on my desk. I use it often with cameras. Would a "better" case just mean more airflow since there's no optical drive or card reader in the way? Yeah it’s mostly a you’ll get better cooling instead of using old dead slots. If you’re using the card reader often i imagine it’s worth it to have one in the case. Personally I’d probably prefer a large powered USB hub for accessibility reasons rather than shoving more ports into the back of the machine, but that’s a preference thing.
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Zalakwe posted:Building a new rig as both a home PC and for gaming, although I'm not bothered about running things at max settings or anything. GPU market looks crazy so I'm sticking with my two year old one for now. For simplicity's sake (2 young kids at home so time is limited) I'm considering buying this bundle - https://www.scan.co.uk/products/3xs-b550-hardware-bundle-amd-ryzen-5-5600x-asus-strix-b550-f-16gb-rgb-ddr4-amd-wraith-stealth The 5600X is a bit faster in gaming while the extra cores of the 10700F can be helpful for multitasking or certain productivity tasks. Personally I would probably go with the 5600X because of the higher per-core performance and gaming performance but either one would suit your needs just fine. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50qYVdGnCNM
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Zalakwe posted:Building a new rig as both a home PC and for gaming, although I'm not bothered about running things at max settings or anything. GPU market looks crazy so I'm sticking with my two year old one for now. For simplicity's sake (2 young kids at home so time is limited) I'm considering buying this bundle - https://www.scan.co.uk/products/3xs-b550-hardware-bundle-amd-ryzen-5-5600x-asus-strix-b550-f-16gb-rgb-ddr4-amd-wraith-stealth Your friend is dead wrong and the 5600x is absolutely the best gaming cpu right now. But you could get equivalent parts to that scan 'deal' for like £100 cheaper.
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I'm not sure I have it in me to camp out discords and microcenter for individual parts. Is there anything off the shelf in the 1000-1200 range that is worth it? If I have to I have to, but otherwise it'd be nice to just have a not 7 year old PC. I have a PS5, so I don't need to run brand new AAA titles or anything, but even just dicking around in Genshin and Valheim makes my PC sound like it's going launch. Basically, I game and do D&D and stuff on my PC.
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Saxophone posted:I'm not sure I have it in me to camp out discords and microcenter for individual parts. Is there anything off the shelf in the 1000-1200 range that is worth it? If I have to I have to, but otherwise it'd be nice to just have a not 7 year old PC. Well you don't have to sit in the discord you can set up notifications so it doesn't take up much time, I nabbed my 5900X from a discord notification after being totally tuned out for a month because I thought it was hopeless. If you don't want the hassle and just want a prebuilt something like this would probably suit you fine. https://twitter.com/TechDeals_16/status/1362843568079966213?s=20 There's kind of a big gap between that and the next step up that makes sense IMO but if you want something that will last a long time. https://twitter.com/TechDeals_16/status/1362343415292207104?s=20
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MaxxBot posted:Well you don't have to sit in the discord you can set up notifications so it doesn't take up much time, I nabbed my 5900X from a discord notification after being totally tuned out for a month because I thought it was hopeless. If you don't want the hassle and just want a prebuilt something like this would probably suit you fine. Naturally, the latter one is out of stock, haha. I mean, I'm currently running a GeForce 660Ti so it's not like PC #1 would be anything other than a massive upgrade, but with the new series out, that puts that card 2 generations behind, right? Saxophone fucked around with this message at 01:33 on Feb 21, 2021 |
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Saxophone posted:Naturally, the latter one is out of stock, haha. I mean, I'm currently running a GeForce 660Ti so it's not like PC #1 would be anything other than a massive upgrade, but with the new series out, that puts that card 2 generations behind, right? It's actually just one generation old, they had a weird naming scheme for the last gen. It's a Turing card that lacks ray tracing which is why it has the 1000 number, IMO ray tracing doesn't really work well on cards such as the 2060 so it doesn't really matter. Looks like there's some other 3070 pre-builts in stock. https://www.newegg.com/abs-ali480/p/N82E16883360075?&quicklink=true https://www.newegg.com/abs-ali463/p/N82E16883360048?&quicklink=true MaxxBot fucked around with this message at 01:39 on Feb 21, 2021 |
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I've never built a PC before, anything off about this build? What country are you in? NC, USA What are you using the system for? Gaming What's your budget? $1500, open to revising it up a bit. Monitor resolution / refresh rate? 1440p, 144 Hz. Would prefer to set settings to ultra. PCPartPicker Part List CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600X 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 RGB Black Edition 57.3 CFM CPU Cooler ($38.78 @ Amazon) Motherboard: Asus ROG STRIX B450-F GAMING ATX AM4 Motherboard ($129.99 @ ASUS) Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory ($97.99 @ Newegg) Storage: Western Digital SN750 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($128.00 @ Amazon) Video Card: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 8 GB Founders Edition Video Card Case: Fractal Design Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case ($89.99 @ Newegg) Power Supply: Corsair RM (2019) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($124.99 @ Best Buy) Total: $609.74 Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available Generated by PCPartPicker 2021-02-20 19:44 EST-0500 I want to run as cool and quiet as possible, will the cooler I listed do? Is the 3070 powerful enough for 1440p ultra?
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https://www.microcenter.com/product/626588/dell-xps-8940-gaming-computer Is that something I could put a better graphics card into in a year or two if I needed to? Or would it be better to stick to the newegg PC linked earlier?
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MmmDonuts posted:I want to run as cool and quiet as possible, will the cooler I listed do? Is the 3070 powerful enough for 1440p ultra? It will 'do' but you can spend an extra $15 or so and get the Scythe Mugen 5, or the Fuma 2 which is the best value cooler for the 5600x imo. Also the mounting system on the 212 is bad. Regarding the rest of your build, drop the sn750 to a sn550 for no noticeable hit to performance and bump your motherboard up to a b550 chipset for PCIe 4. 3070 is a good match for 1440p high refresh gaming but you won't hit the full 144fps at ultra in all new games, but nor do you with the 3080 tbf.
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Saxophone posted:https://www.microcenter.com/product/626588/dell-xps-8940-gaming-computer This has a better CPU than the first prebuilt I linked so if you want to get something now and do a GPU upgrade later this isn't a bad option.
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MaxxBot posted:This has a better CPU than the first prebuilt I linked so if you want to get something now and do a GPU upgrade later this isn't a bad option. I initially had a 1500 dollar PC budget, but got a PS5 so spent 350 of it on a new 4k TV (the old tv was even older than the drat dinosaur PC I'm running) so RIP me for leaving myself with an $1150 PC budget.
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MmmDonuts posted:I've never built a PC before, anything off about this build? For total cool and quiet I would recommend the Noctua NH-D15 cooler, for 1440p Ultra I would recommend the 3080 but it's a major PITA to get right now. I have the 3080 and even then some games (bleeding edge AAA) don't break 100FPS on 1440p Ultra. If you're fine with 1440p High (which often has negligible visual difference) the 3070 should serve you fine. Also I would recommend a B550 motherboard over B450 because depending on the manufacture date the B450 might not be updated for Ryzen 5000 compatibility. Everything else looks fine. MaxxBot fucked around with this message at 02:24 on Feb 21, 2021 |
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MaxxBot posted:For total cool and quiet I would recommend the Noctua NH-D15 cooler, for 1440p Ultra I would recommend the 3080 but it's a major PITA to get right now. I have the 3080 and even then some games (bleeding edge AAA) don't break 100FPS on 1440p Ultra. If you're fine with 1440p High (which often has negligible visual difference) the 3070 should serve you fine. Also I would recommend a B550 motherboard over B450 because depending on the manufacture date the B450 might not be updated for Ryzen 5000 compatibility. Everything else looks fine. Disagree here. Fuma 2 is quieter, but will run warmer. As long as 144hz isn’t the goal, a 3070 is ABSOLUTELY enough for 1440p ultra. I could run 1440p@60hz on most stuff on my 1060 6gb.
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In my experience, the kinds of games where your high esports refresh rate might make a difference (and be noticeable) will be optimized for and consistently hit144hz anyway - games like Valorant, etc. Graphically lush single player games may well hover at around 100fps, which will still feel nicer than 60, but you probably wont feel like you need to hit max framerate. So a 3070 is honestly absolutely fine. Most of the time, I only know that I'm not hitting max framerate because there's a FPS counter in-game telling me so. To be honest, the main way that 144fps feels really nice is genuinely just in your day to day browsing. Your mouse/windows/scrolling/etc glides around the screen in a way that both makes an appreciable difference, and makes it very hard to go back to a 60hz monitor.
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MaxxBot posted:The 5600X is a bit faster in gaming while the extra cores of the 10700F can be helpful for multitasking or certain productivity tasks. Personally I would probably go with the 5600X because of the higher per-core performance and gaming performance but either one would suit your needs just fine. Butterfly Valley posted:Your friend is dead wrong and the 5600x is absolutely the best gaming cpu right now. But you could get equivalent parts to that scan 'deal' for like £100 cheaper. Gents this is deeply appreciated, thanks. Is there a quick answer why the 5600x performs better. Just more bang for each core?
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Posting from my newly built PC and wanted to thank the thread again for the help. As a first time builder, it was pretty straight forward. Biggest hiccups were a missing M2 screw for the SSD and some poor cable management that let a fan cable get into the GPU fan and scared the crap out of me when I powered up the PC for the first time. Still waiting on a couple of case fans and the missing screw to completely finish the build, but it was a really fun experience. (Not counting the anxiety over finding a CPU/GPU, waiting for them to actually arrive, and then not wanting to break them during the build.)
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CapnZStyle posted:Posting from my newly built PC and wanted to thank the thread again for the help. As a first time builder, it was pretty straight forward. Biggest hiccups were a missing M2 screw for the SSD and some poor cable management that let a fan cable get into the GPU fan and scared the crap out of me when I powered up the PC for the first time. Still waiting on a couple of case fans and the missing screw to completely finish the build, but it was a really fun experience. (Not counting the anxiety over finding a CPU/GPU, waiting for them to actually arrive, and then not wanting to break them during the build.) Check the motherboard box like 5 more times for that screw, it's amazing how good they are at hiding. I had one work its way into the user manual once even.
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The Grumbles posted:In my experience, the kinds of games where your high esports refresh rate might make a difference (and be noticeable) will be optimized for and consistently hit144hz anyway - games like Valorant, etc. Graphically lush single player games may well hover at around 100fps, which will still feel nicer than 60, but you probably wont feel like you need to hit max framerate. So a 3070 is honestly absolutely fine. Most of the time, I only know that I'm not hitting max framerate because there's a FPS counter in-game telling me so. Hard agree on all of this. Like, I get 90~ fps at max settings at 1440p with RDR2 on my 3070 and it's great. It's beautiful and buttery smooth. I really don't think I'd be able to tell the difference after about 120 fps anyway, to be honest. 3070 is a real good 1440p/144hz card.
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Some Goon posted:Check the motherboard box like 5 more times for that screw, it's amazing how good they are at hiding. I had one work its way into the user manual once even. Sometimes they're also taped to the back of the MOBO for some reason
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MmmDonuts posted:I've never built a PC before, anything off about this build? Thanks for the feedback, here's my revised list: PCPartPicker Part List CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600X 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor CPU Cooler: Scythe FUMA 2 51.17 CFM CPU Cooler ($59.99 @ Amazon) Motherboard: MSI MAG B550 TOMAHAWK ATX AM4 Motherboard ($159.99 @ Newegg) Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory ($97.99 @ Newegg) Storage: Western Digital Blue SN550 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($104.99 @ Amazon) Video Card: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 8 GB Founders Edition Video Card Case: Fractal Design Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case ($89.99 @ Newegg) Power Supply: Corsair RM (2019) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($124.99 @ Best Buy) Total: $637.94 Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available Generated by PCPartPicker 2021-02-21 14:52 EST-0500 Anything off with this one?
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MmmDonuts posted:Thanks for the feedback, here's my revised list:
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Some Goon posted:Check the motherboard box like 5 more times for that screw, it's amazing how good they are at hiding. I had one work its way into the user manual once even. Thanks for pushing me to look harder. Found them in the support CD sleeve!
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MmmDonuts posted:Thanks for the feedback, here's my revised list: This is pretty much what I'm putting together right now.
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appears you literally cannot purchase a video card? pretty loving cool if you ask me.
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