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sorry yeah BW parsed what I was trying to get across. it's just incredibly shallow baby-brained jingoism I'd have expected as part of a Veteran's Day anthology during the early years of the Iraq War, sans maybe the very on-the-nose framing of a young woman of color tired of being  ed that signals this as the woke kind of propaganda, not as part of DC's event sending up the diversifying roster change they were too cowardly to go through with
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Xelkelvos posted:The finale of Nightwing just made me want Dick as the new Bat even more. There's about to be two Wonder Women, why can't we have two Batmen? This is how they lost me during the New 52. If the concept of Batman was anywhere even close to reality, you'd have multiple people wearing the costume! Batman Incorporated was a fantastic concept, and I also enjoyed Scott Snyder's work with Dick as Batman more than just about anything else he's done in Bat-books. But it felt like they just noped away from it as quickly as they could. Granted, it offers the potential for some uncomfortable parallels to real-world private military corporations that I doubt most of DC's editors would have been willing to run with.
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Feb 17, 2021 19:37
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I really don't understand why they didn't continue with having Bruce and Dick be Batman at the same time. It gives a good explanation for why Batman is seemingly everywhere, you can distinguish them with different costumes and bat symbols, and you can have a fun athletic one and a grim serious detective.
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Feb 21, 2021 08:04
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Dickbats was probably the best idea DC ever walked back,
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Feb 21, 2021 08:08
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Skwirl posted:Dickbats was probably the best idea DC ever walked back, DickBats, WallyFlash, and KyleLantern were the best
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Feb 21, 2021 17:37
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Because the people writing the comics remember the time when their Batman/Green Lantern/Flash was the same guy that's been around since the 60s
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Feb 21, 2021 19:24
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Nystral posted:DickBats, WallyFlash, and KyleLantern were the best
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Feb 21, 2021 19:37
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Madkal posted:Because the people writing the comics remember the time when their Batman/Green Lantern/Flash was the same guy that's been around since the 60s Ahh, the Geoff johns infection.
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Feb 21, 2021 21:21
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Madkal posted:Because the people writing the comics remember the time when their Batman/Green Lantern/Flash was the same guy that's been around since the 60s But soon...the people writing comics will be the ones who remember DickBat.
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Feb 22, 2021 10:37
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Nystral posted:DickBats, WallyFlash, and KyleLantern were the best My man! Edit: What's been going on with Kyle by the way? Is he still Space Jesus White Lantern?
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Feb 22, 2021 17:28
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Nah he's currently a Green Lantern again, pretty much just doing Green Lantern things. He hasn't gotten too much focus recently, but he pops up now and again in the big group shots. Obligatory "Robert Venditti's GLC series is great! GL fans should read it!" plug
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Feb 22, 2021 17:55
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Yeah, Kyle is just 'secondary GL #3' now, Dick is back to being Nightwing (and soon being written by Tom Taylor and getting a cute doggo) and Wally is... like... a double murderer or something? I lose track of the absolute shitshow DC's made of returning him when they clearly didn't want to have to deal with it.
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Feb 22, 2021 18:13
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Now that Future State is nearing its end, is there a definitive timeline that lays out when all these stories were supposed to take place? I only read about half of the books, in release order, and I'm trying to make sense of the grand picture. Even the secondary stories in the each book tended to jump around the chronology.
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Feb 22, 2021 20:01
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Xelkelvos posted:https://bleedingcool.com/comics/lets-have-another-look-at-the-dc-future-state-timeline/ Series within each box are listed in alphabetical order and not when they take place in relation to each other.
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Feb 22, 2021 21:40
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Pioneer42 posted:Now that Future State is nearing its end, is there a definitive timeline that lays out when all these stories were supposed to take place? I only read about half of the books, in release order, and I'm trying to make sense of the grand picture. Even the secondary stories in the each book tended to jump around the chronology. Honestly, best not to think too much about it. Just let it pass from your mind to become yet another forgotten gimmick.
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Feb 22, 2021 23:28
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"Thread", as the kids say. https://twitter.com/seankmckeever/status/1364052978362155011
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FMguru posted:"Thread", as the kids say. So who was telling them that? The EIC or something at the time I guess?
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Feb 23, 2021 09:44
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Xelkelvos posted:So who was telling them that? The EIC or something at the time I guess? Probably Geoff Johns given the comments about Static not being "Street" enough and then Ray Fisher's experience on Justice League.
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Feb 23, 2021 10:35
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Skwirl posted:Probably Geoff Johns given the comments about Static not being "Street" enough and then Ray Fisher's experience on Justice League. Pretty sure Johns wasn't an editor when McKeever was at DC. Or, like, ever.
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Feb 23, 2021 10:43
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Xelkelvos posted:So who was telling them that? The EIC or something at the time I guess? McKeever is on record as saying that his editor was basically writing Titans and he was just doing the dialogue.
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Feb 23, 2021 13:59
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This seems mean. https://twitter.com/seankmckeever/status/1364075077021667335?s=20 So I looked this up. The credited editors on McKeever's run were: Executive editor: Dan DiDio (of course) Editors: Eddie Berganza, Adam Schlagman, Dan DiDio, Rex Ogle, Elisabeth V. Gehrlein, Brian Cunningham Static joins the team in #69 (nice) edited by Ogle and Cunningham, and McKeever's last issue is #71 in July 2001. Geoff Johns was still a writer and didn't get promoted to CCO until February 2010. McDuffie was a writer, not on editorial, and I wouldn't be too surprised to hear he didn't get editors' notes. Endless Mike fucked around with this message at 15:29 on Feb 23, 2021 |
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Feb 23, 2021 15:09
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Can I mention that as a spanish speaker, Eddie Berganza's last name is hilarious. It is like a mixture of Venganza (vengeance or revenge) and Verga (Crass way of sayin Dick) replacing the V with a B
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Feb 23, 2021 15:35
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Well, he was a serial sexual harasser, im not sure if it really that funny.
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Feb 23, 2021 15:59
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Endless Mike posted:This seems mean. I want to break this down issue by issue because it really is a lot of turnover and tumult on the issue by issue level: #50-53: ed. Eddie Berganza, Adam Schlagman asst. ed. #54-58: ed. Dan Didio, asst. ed. Adam Schlagman #59-62: eds. Didio & Schlagman #63-65: eds. Didio & Elisabeth Gehrlein #66-67: eds. Gehrlein & Brian Cunningham #68-71: ed. Brian Cunningham, asst. ed. Rex Ogle From here Bryan Q. Miller takes over main writing duties, then Felicia Henderson with #75, then JT Krul for #78-79, then back to Henderson again, while McKeever sticks around to do Ravager back-ups: #72-79: ed. Cunningham, asst. ed. Ogle #80: ed. Cunningham & Rachel Gluckstern #80: ed. Gluckstern, asst. ed. Rex Ogle He also wrote Terror Titans: #1-2: ed. Didio & Gehrlein, asst. ed. Rex Ogle #3: ed. Gehrlein & Cunningham, asst. ed. Rex Ogle #4: ed. Gehrlein & Didio, asst. ed. Ogle #5-6: ed. Cunningham, asst. ed. Ogle So, lots of hands on deck, many of them incompetent, but no Geoff Johns.
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Rhyno posted:Well, he was a serial sexual harasser, im not sure if it really that funny. It is called dark humor for a reason.
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Feb 23, 2021 16:09
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Man, I remember one of those McKeever Ravager backups starts with Ravager kicking a one-night stand out of band and saying "get out before I cut it off." I couldn't imagine how the guy who wrote Sentinel, Gravity, Young Allies and Spider-Man Loves Mary Jane wrote that if he had a choice and it turns out he probably didn't.
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Feb 23, 2021 16:27
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Xelkelvos posted:Series within each box are listed in alphabetical order and not when they take place in relation to each other. Ok, I guess that works. Would have been nice to have this inserted on the back page of the number ones or something. Lord_Hambrose posted:Honestly, best not to think too much about it. Just let it pass from your mind to become yet another forgotten gimmick. I'd like to, but it looks like they're importing a lot of it into the "normal" runs. The GL franchise is looking bleak at the moment.
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Feb 23, 2021 16:38
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Dawgstar posted:McKeever is on record as saying that his editor was basically writing Titans and he was just doing the dialogue. there's at least one issue of McKeever's run (#69 I think) with the odd credit of "Original Story by Sean McKeever" and nobody actually credited for writing the script
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Feb 23, 2021 22:49
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Noticed that it has been a bit quiet here, so I will ask how is Generation Forged? Is it worth reading? Anything important coming out of it? Any info on Infinite Frontier?
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Madkal posted:Noticed that it has been a bit quiet here, so I will ask how is Generation Forged? Is it worth reading? Anything important coming out of it? Any info on Infinite Frontier? It is like staring full into the madness of ancient comic readers dying in a fever dream.
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Feb 25, 2021 01:44
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So it's a modern Dan Jurgens book.
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Madkal posted:Noticed that it has been a bit quiet here, so I will ask how is Generation Forged? Is it worth reading? Anything important coming out of it? Any info on Infinite Frontier? Good,yes,probably not, idk
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Feb 25, 2021 01:51
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For 10 bucks you should buy almost anything else.
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Feb 25, 2021 03:12
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Lord_Hambrose posted:For 10 bucks you should buy almost anything else. Nah. It is a good classic comic book. People bought the future state dreck. It is a much better book.
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Feb 25, 2021 13:37
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Future State was so ultimately bland and forgettable, I can't really deny that Forged is... Memorable... I definitely feel that if you got into comics less that 30 years ago Forged just has nothing what so ever to care about. It is a pointless strange mess, but it is ultimately inoffensive. The price is still robbery. Go buy any 9.99 Image volume one instead.
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Feb 25, 2021 13:47
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Can DC bring back the really weird Elseworlds style back? They can get really weird and creative with that.
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Feb 25, 2021 15:47
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SHAZADAM! ARE YOU loving KIDDING ME BENDIS! Real talk though. Infinite Frontier is good as hell and has me back on board with DC again. Comics!
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I just picked up the 2 Green Lantern season 1 trades and I kinda....hated them? I normally like Grant Morrison and normally like Green Lantern stuff, but it just felt messy and off. The issues felt like they came straight out of the 90s, art and all. Dunno. Am I crazy for not being too into them?
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Doji Sekushi posted:I just picked up the 2 Green Lantern season 1 trades and I kinda....hated them? I normally like Grant Morrison and normally like Green Lantern stuff, but it just felt messy and off. The issues felt like they came straight out of the 90s, art and all. Dunno. Am I crazy for not being too into them? Arkhams Razor fucked around with this message at 03:33 on Feb 26, 2021 |
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OldMemes posted:Can DC bring back the really weird Elseworlds style back? They can get really weird and creative with that. I want a mini-series of the hybrid superhero Earth that basically spun out of the Elseworlds where Batman becomes a GL. Also a return to the High Fantasy, almost everyone is magic, Elseworld the sorta, maybe got expanded one when DC tried to make a MOBA
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