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Dabir posted:The Dreamcast games haven't aged poorly, they sucked when they came out too. Lots of wrong opinions being spouted in here.
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Feb 22, 2021 17:12
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I know, can you believe there's people who like them
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Feb 22, 2021 17:25
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I enjoyed them a lot when i got the gamecube release, but also I genuinely enjoyed shadow the hedgehog despite the fact that its absolutely not a good game so i don't think I'm allowed to have credible opnions.
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Feb 22, 2021 17:32
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SA1 is as good as the Genesis games or at least close
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Feb 22, 2021 17:55
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Sonic Adventure 1 is better than The Godfather
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Feb 22, 2021 18:27
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Augus posted:SA1 is as good as the Genesis games or at least close Sonic 3D Blast was on the Genesis so sure
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Feb 22, 2021 18:31
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Sonic Adventure 1 is the great American novel, exceeding Hemingway in its narrative and cultural significance.
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Feb 22, 2021 18:39
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I was really blown away by SA1 at the time. I had a Saturn (no imports) during the 32-bit generation, so I also probably would have found a flaming bag of dog poo poo impressive.
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Feb 22, 2021 18:50
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azurite posted:I was really blown away by SA1 at the time. I had a Saturn (no imports) during the 32-bit generation, so I also probably would have found a flaming bag of dog poo poo impressive. SA1 was just a very technically impressive game for 1998, the dreamcast was the first 6th gen console after all. Augus fucked around with this message at 19:13 on Feb 22, 2021 |
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Feb 22, 2021 19:11
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Augus posted:SA1 was just a very technically impressive game for 1998, the dreamcast was the first 6th gen console after all. didn't sonic adventure release on NEIN NEIN NEIN NEIN
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Feb 22, 2021 19:43
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BoosterDuck posted:didn't sonic adventure release on NEIN NEIN NEIN NEIN In the US yeah, it was late 98 in Japan
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Feb 22, 2021 19:52
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Zoig posted:I enjoyed them a lot when i got the gamecube release, but also I genuinely enjoyed shadow the hedgehog despite the fact that its absolutely not a good game so i don't think I'm allowed to have credible opnions. your opinions are credible and welcomed cryptic castle, digital circuit, cosmic fall, and gun fortress are cool levels
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Feb 22, 2021 20:04
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I don't have strong opinions about Shadow as a game apart from it being kinda goofy conceptually and it being a further loosening of Sonic Heroes mechanics which were a looser Adventure 2 But I Am (All of Me) is a Crush 40 banger
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Feb 22, 2021 20:09
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shadow the hedgehog doesn't actually have a morality system, it's a CYOA game where you strategically plot a route between okay-to-decent levels while trying your best to avoid the terrible levels. choose wisely and you get to go to Space Gadget, choose poorly and you get thrown into Lost Impact jail
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Feb 22, 2021 20:11
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Augus posted:shadow the hedgehog doesn't actually have a morality system, it's a CYOA game where you strategically plot a route between okay-to-decent levels while trying your best to avoid the terrible levels. it also has a ridiculous amount of cutscenes because iirc the game has a unique cutscene for each of the hero, neutral, and dark endings to the stages because they all lead to different stages At one point I was trying to see every single cutscene but there are some levels that just suck to do so I eventually gave up
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Feb 22, 2021 20:26
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Yeah, you have to do 10 endings to get the real ending so by the time you go for ending 6 you know what levels suck and what ones are cool. Whats funny is I recall most of the levels you get going full evil sucked rear end, while most of the good levels were on the good guy path. I also recall never figuring out how to do the good guy route in the jungle level which seems like a intentional bit saving players from the worst level in the game, as that would lead to the 30 min nightmare of lost impact. Also yeah im always a sucker for cool level ideas, its something i always enjoy and why even if mystic mansion was a struggle for a lot of people i never got frustrated with it.
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Feb 22, 2021 20:28
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We all laugh at the gunshot menu sound, but it's legit off-putting. Kinda like the Ehrgeiz menu sound.
Electric Phantasm fucked around with this message at 20:33 on Feb 22, 2021 |
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Feb 22, 2021 20:28
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And every route had its own name. Someone at Sega had to sit down and name each and every one of them, and I seem to remember there being like 800 of the loving things.
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Feb 22, 2021 20:36
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There's only 326. You could do 1 a day and be finished in a year
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Feb 22, 2021 20:40
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Doctor_Fruitbat posted:And every route had its own name. Someone at Sega had to sit down and name each and every one of them, and I seem to remember there being like 800 of the loving things. It's like the best part of the game http://info.sonicretro.org/List_of_Shadow_the_Hedgehog_Library_sequences "The Road to Self-Assurance"
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Feb 22, 2021 20:42
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Shadow has some pretty good music between Westopolis, Cosmic Fall, I Am, Waking Up... and then there's All Hail Shadow.
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Feb 22, 2021 20:44
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kirbysuperstar posted:and then there's All Hail Shadow. I always forget that AHS was a Shadow the Hedgehog joint and didn't debut in 06 gently caress it, Shadow the Hedgehog is good
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Feb 22, 2021 20:49
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the only segmented 100% Full Library speedrun of Shadow the Hedgehog on the internet is 181 hours long even with optimal movement and exploiting the infinite chaos control glitch that lets you skip entire levels.
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Feb 22, 2021 20:52
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Augus posted:the only segmented 100% Full Library speedrun of Shadow the Hedgehog on the internet is 181 hours long even with optimal movement and exploiting the infinite chaos control glitch that lets you skip entire levels. Infinite Chaos Control glitch? How does that work?
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Feb 22, 2021 20:55
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Larryb posted:Infinite Chaos Control glitch? How does that work? You build up the blue bar, stand on a checkpoint, press X/O and then immediately press Y/Triangle. If you do it fast enough shadow will be using chaos control while the warp menu is up and the meter won't deplete so you can go as far as you want https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsd_do2J8RI&t=93s The downside is that it can make the game crash easily, hence the 98 crashes in that speedrun
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Feb 22, 2021 21:06
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Also, iirc, its only good for the third of the goals?
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Feb 22, 2021 21:08
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In other news, apparently Roger stepped down from the role of Sonic willingly: https://www.sonicstadium.org/2021/02/roger-craig-smith-reveals-sonic-departure-was-his-decision-its-time-to-be-done/ Which makes me wonder why Tails and Amy’s VA’s are leaving then (and if anyone’s actually sticking around besides Mike). Larryb fucked around with this message at 22:26 on Feb 22, 2021 |
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Feb 22, 2021 22:01
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Xad posted:tbh I just recently played through SA2 and at this point I've learned the level layouts enough that I never need to actually do a rail transfer, I usually jump most of the way down that one spiral rail part near the beginning of Final Rush, does anyone else do that? It was always really funny to do that in multiplayer because it looked like you just gave up but nope the rail's down there I think I started doing that when I was trying for A-ranks, it's a fun skip
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Feb 22, 2021 22:24
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Hey! Hey!! Nobody better be badmouthing SA2 in here
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Feb 22, 2021 22:54
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Shadow the Hedgehog is just horrible, just awful to play, but I love its particular brand of stupid so bad. Someone please recommend me a good LP of it so I can experience the gunshot menu and Vector screaming and the president wearily looking upon his picture of Sonic giving a thumbs up and Shadow crossing his arms without actually playing the game
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Feb 22, 2021 22:56
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womb with a view posted:Shadow the Hedgehog is just horrible, just awful to play, but I love its particular brand of stupid so bad. Someone please recommend me a good LP of it so I can experience the gunshot menu and Vector screaming and the president wearily looking upon his picture of Sonic giving a thumbs up and Shadow crossing his arms without actually playing the game I remember liking this one in 2011 when it was made (jesus christ that was almost 10 years ago). There's another one on the archive I guess? Never watched that one. Otherwise, if you're willing to wait a bit, raocow has been playing through every (no seriously, every) official sonic game in order for the past year and a half(?) and is about to reach Shadow, once he gets past poo poo like the official tie-in Flash games for Sonic X with graphics that look like MSPaint.
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Feb 22, 2021 23:34
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Larryb posted:In other news, apparently Roger stepped down from the role of Sonic willingly: This was definitely a pay thing. Mike just loves being Eggman that much, I guess. And I love him being Eggman, so, thanks for working for peanuts, dude!
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Feb 22, 2021 23:41
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Larryb posted:In other news, apparently Roger stepped down from the role of Sonic willingly: It seems like there's still a possibility of different voice casts between the games and Sonic Prime. Mike has only confirmed that he will be voicing Eggman in future games but I think he still won't say anything about Prime. Colleen said she was not voicing Tails in Prime but I haven't seen her say anything else other than she'd like to voice him in the second movie but can't say more than that. J-Spot fucked around with this message at 00:01 on Feb 23, 2021 |
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Feb 22, 2021 23:49
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J-Spot posted:It seems like there's still a possibility of different voice casts between the games and Sonic Prime. Mike has only confirmed that he will be voicing Eggman in future games but I think he still won't say anything about Prime. Colleen said she was not voicing Tails in Prime but I haven't her say anything else other than she'd like to voice him in the second movie but can't say more than that. Ah, for some reason I thought she said a while back that she was straight up leaving the role, same goes for Cindy Robinson (Amy).
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Feb 22, 2021 23:52
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Despite the fact that all my memories of the Sonic Adventure games now seem like nightmares that would be the opposite of fun, I very much enjoyed both games when they first came out. In other news, when the first one came out I was a colossally stupid teenager who had been saving up for a long time to be able to buy my first console and its launch title while riding a high-stakes hype train about how Sonic Adventure being good would mean Sega's survival against the Playstation that was ruining gaming by making it popular, and when the second one came along I was Doing Fandom with my girlfriend, and I'm sure, I'm sure all these things are unrelated and the bad games I can remember were actually good Buml0r fucked around with this message at 00:09 on Feb 23, 2021 |
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Feb 23, 2021 00:06
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Party Boat posted:I think I started doing that when I was trying for A-ranks, it's a fun skip It's not used in speedruns, however, because actually riding the rail gets you down there faster than even the bounce bracelet!
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Feb 23, 2021 00:56
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Guess its time to post my favorite Shadow the Hedgehog video again https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npKwbkTyZNQ
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Feb 23, 2021 02:07
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I'm just gonna say it. The "SEGAAA" choir sucks. It's loud and obnoxious. First thing I do after booting up those Sonic games is turn down the volume. Not worth the cartridge space in any of the Genesis titles. The wow factor only existed for people who knew enough about video games to recognize a voice clip is uncommon. The two-note Master System one is less intrusive. Just give me the modern *woosh*"sega." or even the strange eyeball with an off-key note.
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Feb 23, 2021 21:22
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Heran Bago posted:I'm just gonna say it. The "SEGAAA" choir sucks. How dare you
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Feb 23, 2021 21:24
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Heran Bago posted:I'm just gonna say it. The "SEGAAA" choir sucks. It's loud and obnoxious. First thing I do after booting up those Sonic games is turn down the volume. Not worth the cartridge space in any of the Genesis titles. The wow factor only existed for people who knew enough about video games to recognize a voice clip is uncommon. The two-note Master System one is less intrusive. Just give me the modern *woosh*"sega." or even the strange eyeball with an off-key note. This is the lamest banme I have ever seen
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