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KozmoNaut posted:He was whining about being called out for having conservative opinions online. the nerve
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saw an extremely terrible graycat comment and was obliged to register an account and touch the poop, let's see how long before i'm banned
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NihilCredo posted:the nerve Don't you know that KKK was purely individual racism, not in any way related to any so-called "systemic racism"? HN libertarians, ladies and gentlemen.
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Feb 22, 2021 15:27
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mrmcd posted:fastball 1 hour ago [–] idk how folks like this manage when they're also monitoring ambulance prices, emergency surgery rates while on vacation, etc.
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Feb 22, 2021 17:57
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Americans love shopping for the best deal! We shouldn't take that away from them
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Feb 22, 2021 17:58
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i suppose that could also be read as "this is a ridiculous thing to be doing so i would not be on a wholesale rate plan" (it shouldn't be read that way however)
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Feb 22, 2021 18:02
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as dumb as it is, i do know a guy who gets their smart meter reads/feeds wholesale pricing data in to their “home automation” system which will flip stuff on/off automatically. i however like being married.
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Feb 22, 2021 21:41
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blugu64 posted:as dumb as it is, i do know a guy who gets their smart meter reads/feeds wholesale pricing data in to their “home automation” system which will flip stuff on/off automatically. lol
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Feb 22, 2021 22:05
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we were on a plan like that and after i did the math over 9 months of usage it ended up costing $10-50 more per month than if we had just used a regular flat rate plan over the same interval i think the main reason is that they tacked on another few cents of margin for themselves onto the market kwh rate so you really had to only be taking showers at 2am or whatever to come out ahead. maybe it'd be easier to cone out ahead if the margin was fixed per-day or something lol i just checked the spot price and its 44cNZ/kwh at 10am on a mild summer day, meanwhile our fixed rate is around 28cNZ/kwh iirc but with some discounts on top of that
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Feb 22, 2021 22:06
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Even if you aren't going to freeze to death or whatever, why would you really want to micromanage your power usage on that level to hopefully save a few bucks?
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Feb 22, 2021 22:21
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mystes posted:Even if you aren't going to freeze to death or whatever, why would you really want to micromanage your power usage on that level to hopefully save a few bucks? statements like that make me question your devotion to the all knowing free market
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Feb 22, 2021 22:23
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in principle it's worthwhile to e.g. teach the system to charge your electric car at 2am instead of as soon as you plug it in after a long day at the office drinking highballs and flirting with the secretaries but there aren't a lot of other significant power-consuming jobs that can be time-shifted that way, unless you're going so far as to buy a home battery
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Feb 22, 2021 22:31
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it's not too hard to come up with a pile of things like car charging and weed growing that benefit from scheduling, but the average household isn't doing any of them (yet, hopefully, in the case of cars) and i'm not sure that any of them would benefit meaningfully from real-time pricing decisions rather than just doing them at night.
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Feb 22, 2021 23:33
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mystes posted:Even if you aren't going to freeze to death or whatever, why would you really want to micromanage your power usage on that level to hopefully save a few bucks? there exist people who enjoy churning credit cards and black friday doorbusters and all that. i do not understand their brains in any meaningful capacity, but they're out there. the charitable part of me wants to say "deals like that are a way for people without money to get stuff they couldn't usually afford". but i don't actually think that's it - the actual roi on doing that poo poo is almost always so low that it can't actually be for what you get out of it. it has to be for the raw feeling of getting a good deal or feeling like you pulled one over on walmart or whatever. people like that can spend 6 hours to make $30 over the course of a month and feel like they somehow came out ahead
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Feb 22, 2021 23:55
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Achmed Jones posted:people like that can spend 6 hours to make $30 over the course of a month and feel like they somehow came out ahead this is the bitcoin guys in the GPU thread like yeah i guess you do currently make 14 dollars a day with the card -- after the 3 months it takes to pay for the initial cost, assuming bitcoin doesn't crash and the card doesn't burn out, and all you have to do is stand in like at a microcenter at 5am for a week straight and then when you want to cash out you simply buy a huge supply of amazon gift cards, making sure to only buy in certain patterns because it's totally legal but the IRS is wrong and will try to make you pay taxes on it so just do it this particular way, and and i'm just imagining what an intolerable personality one must have to think that all of that makes sense and even proselytize about it. gently caress
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Plorkyeran posted:it's not too hard to come up with a pile of things like car charging and weed growing that benefit from scheduling, but the average household isn't doing any of them (yet, hopefully, in the case of cars) and i'm not sure that any of them would benefit meaningfully from real-time pricing decisions rather than just doing them at night. true, and i think it might already be pretty common for electricity to be priced slightly differently for peak / off-peak hours
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from a thread about how Arizona inmates are being held past their sentences because the software doesn't have features to handle early releases:quote:One of the issues is that laws are made on paper and then everyone needs to figure out how to map it to software. Instead, laws should be codified in software and legal APIs should be binding. This would do wonders for efficiency, but also force laws to be cleaned up, be consistent, simple and logical. quote:So the government writes up a spec for how the legalese should map to code that engineers then implement? How is that different from what happens now? quote:Only the programmed end result in code would be legally binding. Lawmakers would have a big interst in making sure the code is correct and provide incentives/change procedures accordingly. quote:The legal text is the specification. What you're suggesting is the equivalent of the classic "the spec is whatever the implementation does", and would erase the distinction between correct, incorrect, and undefined behaviour. "sorry buddy, we found a bug in the software and it says you don't get out, we know Jeff's code isn't real great but it's still legally binding, you're just gonna have to stay in prison"
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Feb 23, 2021 05:52
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"just make law more simple and consistent" is the most programmerbrain thing
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Feb 23, 2021 08:30
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quote:Yes, I was lucky enough to be born after the fall of communism, so I had the privilege that my parents and grandparents didn't have of not struggling through starvation, not being subjected to attempts of erasing my identity and genocides. See, we white people just don't know what real oppression is, which is low black employment and trigger happy cops. "Oppression is only real when it happens to white people under communism."
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Feb 23, 2021 09:10
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jesus WEP posted:"just make law more simple and consistent" is the most programmerbrain thing Good when it comes to taxes, bad when it comes to letting people out of jail
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Feb 23, 2021 16:25
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Progressive JPEG posted:we were on a plan like that and after i did the math over 9 months of usage it ended up costing $10-50 more per month than if we had just used a regular flat rate plan over the same interval wasn’t sure if you saw this before but i signed up to whoever the gently caress this was at about the start of the most expensive month for power a few years ago this was a week 
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Feb 23, 2021 18:03
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Paul MaudDib posted:from a thread about how Arizona inmates are being held past their sentences because the software doesn't have features to handle early releases: this person has clearly never been anywhere near software development, which is a surprisingly large demographic on hackernews
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Feb 23, 2021 21:17
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n-gate is great this weekquote:Paul Graham takes a break from telling people how to think, in order to focus on a more general-interest topic with a broader audience: himself. The result is a fourteen-thousand-word morass constituting the slug track left by a spoiled clown with no meaningful contributions to make to anything. Hackernews continues to be in love. One focus of their adoration is Paul Graham's toy programming language, Bel, which also serves as a flawless analogy for its author: presented with every chance to succeed, recipient of years and years of people's time and attention, only to turn out to be a completely ineffective collection of text on a website, of use to nobody.
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Feb 23, 2021 21:22
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drat lmao
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Feb 23, 2021 21:26
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we really are useless in comparison to ngate huh
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Feb 23, 2021 21:31
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thread title never really stopped being true
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Feb 23, 2021 21:34
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mystes posted:Even if you aren't going to freeze to death or whatever, why would you really want to micromanage your power usage on that level to hopefully save a few bucks? person who has never needed to think about prices for essential goods and services spotted
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human garbage bag posted:person who has never needed to think about prices for essential goods and services spotted mystes fucked around with this message at 22:18 on Feb 23, 2021 |
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Feb 23, 2021 22:15
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mystes posted:Reducing your overall power usage to lower your electrical bill is reasonable but intentionally switching to a utility where you have to worry a lot about what the current price is whenever you're using power just doesn't make a lot of sense to me, especially if the potential risk is much higher than the potential savings. people start to lose their rationality when they get to a level where they are thinking about getting money just to feed themselves. it's why poor people are especially vulnerable to scams.
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Feb 23, 2021 23:12
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mystes posted:Reducing your overall power usage to lower your electrical bill is reasonable but intentionally switching to a utility where you have to worry a lot about what the current price is whenever you're using power just doesn't make a lot of sense to me, especially if the potential risk is much higher than the potential savings. I mean it makes sense if you're a factory pulling MWs regulaly but for the average homeowners it's cheapdad min-max spreadsheet hobby with a few bucks a day of possible upside.
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Feb 23, 2021 23:22
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Paul MaudDib posted:from a thread about how Arizona inmates are being held past their sentences because the software doesn't have features to handle early releases: Love the programmer brains at hn encountering real world use cases that they can't wrap their minds around, and who then have one good suggestion being "we need to simplify the real world" rather than in any way hoping to improve themselves. It's like physicists went around trying to please have the farmer produce more spherical cows rather than acknowledging the model's limitations.
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Feb 24, 2021 03:18
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MononcQc posted:It's like physicists went around trying to please have the farmer produce more spherical cows rather than acknowledging the model's limitations. ah, i see you’ve met a physicist
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Feb 24, 2021 03:41
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dont forget feynman was a startup bro
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Feb 24, 2021 05:04
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as if a physicist would say please
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Feb 24, 2021 05:12
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wait wtf is Bel, what happened to Arc? oh i bet i have to rtfa. i will not
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Feb 24, 2021 06:19
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DELETE CASCADE posted:wait wtf is Bel, what happened to Arc? oh i bet i have to rtfa. i will not let me guess, it's a custom dialect of LISP *googles it* yup, actually they both are change my view, LISP is the original hipster language, "just use LISP" has been a thing since *checks dates* 1955
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Feb 24, 2021 06:25
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isn't the whole point of lisp that you implement your dialect *in lisp*, as macros, rather than creating a whole new language?
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Feb 24, 2021 06:27
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yes thats why theres so many lisps and the uptake is so poo poo and the dude who wrote about this did this before clinton was president iirc
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Feb 24, 2021 06:35
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MononcQc posted:Love the programmer brains at hn encountering real world use cases that they can't wrap their minds around, and who then have one good suggestion being "we need to simplify the real world" rather than in any way hoping to improve themselves. and then immediately after explaining that farmers just need to make their cows spherical, they immediately jump into making fun of legislators who are trying to pass laws that require impossible things
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echinopsis posted:wasn’t sure if you saw this before but i signed up to whoever the gently caress this was at about the start of the most expensive month for power a few years ago that looks like flick, we were on flick and moved to electric kiwi, noticeably cheaper now despite flick being theoretically "market rate"
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