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FogHelmut
Dec 18, 2003

ONE YEAR LATER posted:

There was no mention of dimensions at all in the episode and multiple characters talk directly to the camera, so I disagree with that.

That's obvious, but there's subtext to everything in this show. Unless they were talking about Monica breaking through the hex wall.

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swickles
Aug 21, 2006

I guess that I don't need that though
Now you're just some QB that I used to know

Sanguinia posted:

Surely they've made an evil Vision named BLIND at some point, right? If not, pay me Marvel.

They had a Project Cataract mention in the show.

Sanguinia
Jan 1, 2012

~Everybody wants to be a cat~
~Because a cat's the only cat~
~Who knows where its at~

Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:

He's not a robot. He's a synthoid, you racist.

They made an entire universe where everyone was a zombie and wanted to include Vision, so they said "gently caress it. Vision can be a zombie" for ~*reasons*~

Also, the Zombie universe is identical to ours in every way except for two:

1) Zombies exist
2) In this reality, Captain America was promoted three additional times compared to his normal reality and is "Colonel America"

The reason for why a Zombie virus would change nothing except Captain America's career ladder is never explained.

Marvel Zombies is so great. "WE ATE GALACTUS AND NOW WE'RE GALACTUS!"


swickles posted:

They had a Project Cataract mention in the show.

:monocle:

Robot Hobo
May 18, 2002

robothobo.com

Paul Bettany posted:

I can't speak to it right now, because I'm worried about getting fired."
I know I'm grasping at straws, but I'm hoping this is a hint that the role of Vision is still a job Bettany expects to have in the MCU, rather than one that ended when Wandavision wrapped filming.

Than again, even if Vision doesn't survive, I imagine he'll be reprising the role in at least one Wanda mental breakdown scene in Doctor Strange 2.

Sanguinia posted:

Surely they've made an evil Vision named BLIND at some point, right? If not, pay me Marvel.

swickles posted:

They had a Project Cataract mention in the show.
Yep, the files Darcy stayed behind on the base to retrieve made it to Woo in the last episode, showing that the S.W.O.R.D. plan to (somehow) weaponize Vision's corpse was called Project Cataract. That's pretty drat close.

Robot Hobo fucked around with this message at 22:53 on Feb 22, 2021

Doom2020!
Dec 31, 2020

If you think this has a happy ending then you really haven't been paying attention

Robot Hobo posted:

I know I'm grasping at straws, but I'm hoping this is a hint that the role of Vision is still a job Bettany expects to have in the MCU, rather than one that ended when Wandavision wrapped filming.


Yep, the files Darcy stayed behind on the base to retrieve made it to Woo in the last episode, showing that the S.W.O.R.D. plan to (somehow) weaponize Vision's corpse was called Project Cataract. That's pretty drat close.

Good thing about people like Nightmare, Mephisto and even Loki to an extent is that they could easily be recast. Mephisto using a revolving cast ala the Doctor would work wonderfully. All I ask is to at least use John Glover for one episode of something as Mephisto as he was amazing in a long forgotten show called Brimstone. Saw that rerun as a kid a few times and I really enjoyed it. Loki in the comics was both a lady, a kid (in an amazing comic) and a teen.

A shame Helstrom was awful and flopped so bad as I would have loved a bunch of horror themed series like Hellstrom, Druid, Blade, Johnny Blaze, Ghost Rider, Night Stalkers and the Darkhold crew. Oh well.

Do we have just one more episode of WandaVision or two? I did not think I would be this into the show when the previews were around. Loki looks like it will 100% be MY JAM.

PJOmega
May 5, 2009

Doom2020! posted:

All I ask is to at least use John Glover for one episode of something as Mephisto as he was amazing in a long forgotten show called Brimstone.

The eyes are the window to the soul, so here's my mall ninja brass knuckles with spikes for gouging out eyes.

Lammasu
May 8, 2019

lawful Good Monster
I'm kind of conflicted about Vision's fate. Bringing him back permanently would cheapen Wanda's arch but we've still haven't seen him do the Robot to Dancing Machine.

Barry Convex
Sep 1, 2005

Think of the good things, Pim! The good things!

Like Jesus, candy, and crackerjacks! Ice cream and cake and lots o'laffs!
Grandma, Grandpa, and Uncle Joe! Larry, Curly, and brother Moe!
not a huge nitpick, but how exactly did Darcy know the details about how Vision died, given that no one is present in that scene in Infinity War besides Wanda, Vision, and Thanos? I guess Wanda was just debriefed by SWORD at some point in the window between Endgame and her stealing Vision's corpse?

Total Meatlove
Jan 28, 2007

:japan:
Rangers died, shoujo Hitler cried ;_;

Barry Convex posted:

not a huge nitpick, but how exactly did Darcy know the details about how Vision died, given that no one is present in that scene in Infinity War besides Wanda, Vision, and Thanos? I guess Wanda was just debriefed by SWORD at some point in the window between Endgame and her stealing Vision's corpse?

Like 8 people were in Bin Laden’s compound when he got taken down but the whole world knows he loved his 16-bit 90’s softcore. Details do come out.

Steve Yun
Aug 7, 2003
I'm a parasitic landlord that needs to get a job instead of stealing worker's money. Make sure to remind me when I post.
Soiled Meat

Total Meatlove posted:

Like 8 people were in Bin Laden’s compound when he got taken down but the whole world knows he loved his 16-bit 90’s softcore. Details do come out.

Wait I knew he had porn but what’s this about 16 bit softcore

Edit: lol it wasn’t even porn games it was a folder of screenshots of porn game title screens

https://www.avclub.com/osama-bin-ladens-computers-contained-a-bunch-of-bootleg-1820062241

Desperado Bones
Aug 29, 2009

Cute, adorable, and creepy at the same time!


Total Meatlove posted:

Like 8 people were in Bin Laden’s compound when he got taken down but the whole world knows he loved his 16-bit 90’s softcore. Details do come out.

I really want a show about a group of news reporters following the avengers ala what we do in the shadows.

Robot Hobo
May 18, 2002

robothobo.com

Desperado Bones posted:

I really want a show about a group of news reporters following the avengers ala what we do in the shadows.
Can we start a petition to have Taika Waititi to direct the upcoming Blade movie in the MCU?

Blade did already show up in one episode of What We Do In The Shadows... Well, sort of.
The Ancient One was in that episode too. Goddamn it's a great show.

Barry Convex
Sep 1, 2005

Think of the good things, Pim! The good things!

Like Jesus, candy, and crackerjacks! Ice cream and cake and lots o'laffs!
Grandma, Grandpa, and Uncle Joe! Larry, Curly, and brother Moe!
imo the easiest explanation for the nitpick I had above is that Wakanda had drones or other cameras surveilling the climactic battle in Infinity War and shared footage of the events surrounding the Snap with the rest of the world's authorities

VectorSigma
Jan 20, 2004

Transform
and
Freak Out



So, based on how this show has telegraphed everything so far, my only conclusion is that Darcy now has powers, namely super-strength.

Thundercracker
Jun 25, 2004

Proudly serving the Ruinous Powers since as a veteran of the long war.
College Slice

Desperado Bones posted:

I really want a show about a group of news reporters following the avengers ala what we do in the shadows.

I hope Ms. Marvel touches that where we get a glimpse of what fandom looks like when supes actually exist. Because from WandaVision it honestly sounds like everyone knows everything that goes down, probably fromcrowdsourcimg info alone. Like every angle of the attacks on Manhattan is probably on video.

Edmund Lava
Sep 8, 2004

Hey, I'm from Brooklyn. I'm going to call myself Mr. Friendly.

VectorSigma posted:

So, based on how this show has telegraphed everything so far, my only conclusion is that Darcy now has powers, namely super-strength.

She’s not involved at all in Love and Thunder right? What would they use her character for if that was the case?

tsob
Sep 26, 2006

Chalalala~
D'arcy is the new Hercules. Shercules?

ANOTHER SCORCHER
Aug 12, 2018

Titania

Desperado Bones
Aug 29, 2009

Cute, adorable, and creepy at the same time!


Thundercracker posted:

I hope Ms. Marvel touches that where we get a glimpse of what fandom looks like when supes actually exist. Because from WandaVision it honestly sounds like everyone knows everything that goes down, probably fromcrowdsourcimg info alone. Like every angle of the attacks on Manhattan is probably on video.

Although I was half joking, half serious, I like to imagine there were paparazzi camping near the avengers headquarters hoping for some pics of hot superheroes. Or your usual youtuber or fan trying to sneak in.
Any attack on a big city would def. have a LOT of footage.

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

sucks to be right

PJOmega posted:

The eyes are the window to the soul, so here's my mall ninja brass knuckles with spikes for gouging out eyes.

You can never have too many spikes



VectorSigma posted:

So, based on how this show has telegraphed everything so far, my only conclusion is that Darcy now has powers, namely super-strength.

Chuck in super agility as well and we're halfway to a Squirrel Girl origin

Desperado Bones
Aug 29, 2009

Cute, adorable, and creepy at the same time!


VectorSigma posted:

So, based on how this show has telegraphed everything so far, my only conclusion is that Darcy now has powers, namely super-strength.

I was thinking this, everyone should have some degree of super powers by now.

Edit: What if "Pietro" is just a random guy that got super-speed from exposure?

Desperado Bones fucked around with this message at 01:22 on Feb 23, 2021

LividLiquid
Apr 13, 2002

Edmund Lava posted:

They didn’t even do a cameo during the five seasons of Fuller House, I’m guessing they’re really done with acting.
Was there an on-screen explanation for this?

FogHelmut
Dec 18, 2003

Edmund Lava posted:

They didn’t even do a cameo during the five seasons of Fuller House, I’m guessing they’re really done with acting.

How rude.

The X-man cometh
Nov 1, 2009

Desperado Bones posted:

Although I was half joking, half serious, I like to imagine there were paparazzi camping near the avengers headquarters hoping for some pics of hot superheroes. Or your usual youtuber or fan trying to sneak in.
Any attack on a big city would def. have a LOT of footage.

There was a quick scene in the beginning of Ragnarok where 2 girls take a selfie with Thor and tell him not to feel bad about getting dumped by Jane.

The Avengers are definitely gossip column fodder.

angerbot
Mar 23, 2004

plob
I highly doubt anyone would gossip about a group of ultra powerful sexy people doing mindbending things! Why, there's the PTA elections to consider!

Thundercracker
Jun 25, 2004

Proudly serving the Ruinous Powers since as a veteran of the long war.
College Slice
Man, the Haywood character is just so completely pointless. I wonder how he got past the writing table reads. Like his trope was tired in the 90s.

He would've been way more interesting if he was cooperative and listened but still had the same motive. Like smart and good with people, even if it's just to use them, instead of central casting rear end in a top hat commander.

Another Bill
Sep 27, 2018

Born on the bayou
died in a cave
bbq and posting
is all I crave

Thundercracker posted:

Man, the Haywood character is just so completely pointless. I wonder how he got past the writing table reads. Like his trope was tired in the 90s.

He would've been way more interesting if he was cooperative and listened but still had the same motive. Like smart and good with people, even if it's just to use them, instead of central casting rear end in a top hat commander.

You're going to feel foolish when it turns out he's a Skrull! (speculation)

Comrade Fakename
Feb 13, 2012


Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:

There's also an undead version of Vision that is a zombie.

Yeah, it’s this one.

Anyway, I think I might be in love with the Agatha All Along song. I’ve watched it loads since Friday - it’s Katherine Hahn’s hilarious mugging to the camera that makes it. A cackling witch is absolutely the role she was born to play.

In fact, I noticed recently that Disney is currently making Hocus Pocus 2, and they should 100% cast Hahn in that as Agatha, and retroactively put the entire Hocus Pocus franchise into the MCU. Totally serious.

achillesforever6
Apr 23, 2012

psst you wanna do a communism?

Thundercracker posted:

I hope Ms. Marvel touches that where we get a glimpse of what fandom looks like when supes actually exist. Because from WandaVision it honestly sounds like everyone knows everything that goes down, probably fromcrowdsourcimg info alone. Like every angle of the attacks on Manhattan is probably on video.
Luke Cage showed there were people video taping superhero stuff to sell on DVD/Blu Ray lol

angerbot
Mar 23, 2004

plob

Comrade Fakename posted:

Yeah, it’s this one.

Anyway, I think I might be in love with the Agatha All Along song. I’ve watched it loads since Friday - it’s Katherine Hahn’s hilarious mugging to the camera that makes it. A cackling witch is absolutely the role she was born to play.

It's been stuck in my head all weekend. It's just so earnest about it.

e: :argh: Agatha! :witch:

angerbot fucked around with this message at 04:03 on Feb 23, 2021

swickles
Aug 21, 2006

I guess that I don't need that though
Now you're just some QB that I used to know

achillesforever6 posted:

Luke Cage showed there were people video taping superhero stuff to sell on DVD/Blu Ray lol

I liked when Luke Cage tried out for the Jets and they were like "uhh, I don't think we can actually let you play"

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer

FogHelmut posted:

They're talking about the wall between dimensions.

It can be two things.

swickles
Aug 21, 2006

I guess that I don't need that though
Now you're just some QB that I used to know
I was thinking earlier about how I said that I hoped Falcon and the Winter Soldier would be a buddy cop show and I do actually wonder if its that. Like we know from the trailer Zemo is coming back somehow. I was thinking what if when people were unsnapped a bunch of various high level prisoners escaped because their previous cells no longer existed/were manned. That would be a neat thing to watch them have to hunt down people and could even tie into Woo's witness thing somehow.

Carlosologist
Oct 13, 2013

Revelry in the Dark

I was discussing this the other day but just exactly how much does the world know about what went down in IW/Endgame? I guess that’s the equivalent of a classified mission

swickles
Aug 21, 2006

I guess that I don't need that though
Now you're just some QB that I used to know

Carlosologist posted:

I was discussing this the other day but just exactly how much does the world know about what went down in IW/Endgame? I guess that’s the equivalent of a classified mission

I would guess a decent amount. The opening of Spiderman Far From Home has the student made memorial (set to I will Always Love You) featuring the fallen heroes of Iron Man, Nat, and Captain America (who was just probably announced as dead for his cover). They may not know the specifics of Thanos and Infinity Stones, but they know a huge force invaded Earth and half the population mysteriously vanished. Then the Avengers fought another big battle on Earth and half the population came back and the attacking army was the one who mysteriously disappeared. There is definitely a declassified version of events and then classified version which includes time travel and most of the specifics.

edit: this explains pretty succinctly what the public knew happened

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5HJhubt7D_g

swickles fucked around with this message at 04:47 on Feb 23, 2021

Saltpowered
Apr 12, 2010

Chief Executive Officer
Awful Industries, LLC

Another Bill posted:

You're going to feel foolish when it turns out he's a Skrull! (speculation)

Speculation:


Yeah, my personal speculation is that he and the major that Monica called are from two different Skrull factions within Sword. Hayward just being an rear end in a top hat making super weapons to defend Earth is a really overdone plot line. That was basically the plot of Age of Ultron.

Though him being a Skrull isn’t much better than Hydra infiltration. So maybe he is just a regular garden variety rear end in a top hat.

They are setting things up in these shows for the entirety of P4+. Secret Invasion is definitely going to go down pretty different considering how Captain Marvel reframed the Skrulls. Either there will be some Skrulls that remained in the galaxy and didn’t go with Talos or something has happened to cause the Skrulls to return to build a new empire to challenge the Kree. Maybe Talos was snapped and his people splintered into two groups, one of which wanted to rebuild the Empire.

Either way, I would guess that there are both peaceful and warmongering Skrulls already infiltrating the MCU. I wouldn’t be surprised if Goodner ends up being Talos’ kid.

BrianWilly
Apr 24, 2007

There is no homosexual terrorist Johnny Silverhand
It would definitely be really strange if a random person knew the precise details of the Infinity Stones, along with the exact specific sequence of events that went down in Wakanda and could recite them as if it were just common knowledge...but I can handwave it that Jimmy was briefed on a lot of classified info like a lot of federal agents might be, and Darcy is in Thor's groupchat or something.

swickles
Aug 21, 2006

I guess that I don't need that though
Now you're just some QB that I used to know

BrianWilly posted:

It would definitely be really strange if a random person knew the precise details of the Infinity Stones, along with the exact specific sequence of events that went down in Wakanda and could recite them as if it were just common knowledge...but I can handwave it that Jimmy was briefed on a lot of classified info like a lot of federal agents might be, and Darcy is in Thor's groupchat or something.

Darcy is actually N00bMaster69.

Sash!
Mar 16, 2001


I'm agonizing over whether Agatha killed a real or imaginary dog.

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Desperado Bones
Aug 29, 2009

Cute, adorable, and creepy at the same time!


BrianWilly posted:

It would definitely be really strange if a random person knew the precise details of the Infinity Stones, along with the exact specific sequence of events that went down in Wakanda and could recite them as if it were just common knowledge...but I can handwave it that Jimmy was briefed on a lot of classified info like a lot of federal agents might be, and Darcy is in Thor's groupchat or something.

I just love how they talked about how Wanda was gonna defeat Thanos until he cheated. As if they were watching a sports match or something. Like I said, wouldn't be surprised if someone was risking their lives broadcasting the whole fight, or the footage leaked eventually. Tony's armor records everything, I guess?

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