Pro Dota 2 The International 2019: LETS PLAY SOME DOTA!

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lurksion: Mar 21, 2013

Sampatrick posted:

i mean, miracle has been single handedly losing the entire game since like 25 minutes in. he spent 6.6k gold on an abyssal that has done stone cold nothing because he gets black holed every single fight.

on the other hand, w33 jumping into the edge of blackholes

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# ? Apr 16, 2024 05:52

shades of blue: Sep 27, 2012

lurksion posted:

on the other hand, w33 jumping into the edge of blackholes

see, you can blame w33 for dying there or you can blame miracle for getting caught out and forcing his team to try to save him.

w33 obviously played like poo poo this game but im just saying that miracle also played incredibly badly. if nigma didnt have the best wisp in the world theres absolutely no way they would have won with how w33 and miracle were playing.

tbf, chessie's itemization was also very bad with both a pointless mkb and also a pointless heart. almost certainly should have bought agi blink and satanic or maybe even an aghs or sny. 100% should have had agi blink though.

shades of blue fucked around with this message at 19:22 on Feb 23, 2021

# ? Feb 23, 2021 19:19

nikosoft: Dec 17, 2011; ghost in the shell, but somehow much worse; College Slice

Doesn't Nigma have an absurd win rate when Gh plays Io? Why wouldn't you always ban it?

# ? Feb 23, 2021 19:22

shades of blue: Sep 27, 2012

nikosoft posted:

Doesn't Nigma have an absurd win rate when Gh plays Io? Why wouldn't you always ban it?

i have no clue. gh wisp is arguably the single best player hero combo in all of dota. poo poo is broken.

# ? Feb 23, 2021 19:24

IcePhoenix: Sep 18, 2005; Take me to your Shida

5 Monkey King? Sure, why not, go off Kuro

# ? Feb 23, 2021 19:47

shades of blue: Sep 27, 2012

miracle 13/1 against the 28/8 viper

oh no

# ? Feb 23, 2021 19:49

IcePhoenix: Sep 18, 2005; Take me to your Shida

Goooooooooaaaaaaaaaaallllllll

# ? Feb 23, 2021 19:56

IcePhoenix: Sep 18, 2005; Take me to your Shida

Your day will come, Core Willow

# ? Feb 23, 2021 20:05

lurksion: Mar 21, 2013

Ah yes the 2 man gank into 5

# ? Feb 23, 2021 20:06

IcePhoenix: Sep 18, 2005; Take me to your Shida

lol what a disaster

# ? Feb 23, 2021 20:13

IcePhoenix: Sep 18, 2005; Take me to your Shida

I'm struggling to think of a game in the DPC where a pos 1 Bloodseeker worked

e: I looked up his statistics in EU, he's 7-9 with 6 of those games being Nigma, who is 4-2 with him. 4-1 with him as a 3 and 0-1 as a 1.

IcePhoenix fucked around with this message at 20:25 on Feb 23, 2021

# ? Feb 23, 2021 20:20

Sab669: Sep 24, 2009

IcePhoenix posted:

I'm struggling to think of a game in the DPC where a pos 1 Bloodseeker worked

https://www.dotabuff.com/matches/5847186898 Liquid v OG the other day?

# ? Feb 23, 2021 20:24

IcePhoenix: Sep 18, 2005; Take me to your Shida

Sab669 posted:

https://www.dotabuff.com/matches/5847186898 Liquid v OG the other day?

I wish I could figure out how to search for pro matches by hero so I could find the other two wins to see if they were pos 1 or pos 3

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sugar free jazz: Mar 5, 2008

HC actually looking pretty good. Just need to work on some shotcalling/decision making in mid/late game and it seems like they could be pretty strong.

# ? Feb 23, 2021 20:34

Sab669: Sep 24, 2009

IcePhoenix posted:

I wish I could figure out how to search for pro matches by hero so I could find the other two wins to see if they were pos 1 or pos 3

Dotabuff.com --> Esports --> Matches --> DPC Winter 21 League (EU) presented by DreamLeague. Then on that page you should have a Dropdown to look for specific heroes.

I was only able to find it relatively quickly because I only tune in for a limited set of games pertaining to teams I'm aware of / care about, and after that match I was distinctly thinking, "Ughh I don't want to see more BS in my pubs"

# ? Feb 23, 2021 20:36

IcePhoenix: Sep 18, 2005; Take me to your Shida

Sab669 posted:

Dotabuff.com --> Esports --> Matches --> DPC Winter 21 League (EU) presented by DreamLeague. Then on that page you should have a Dropdown to look for specific heroes.

I was only able to find it relatively quickly because I only tune in for a limited set of games pertaining to teams I'm aware of / care about, and after that match I was distinctly thinking, "Ughh I don't want to see more BS in my pubs"

yeah I got that far but it just shows me entire series so I have to look through every individual game to find it and a lot of them he wasn't even picked

# ? Feb 23, 2021 20:38

Sab669: Sep 24, 2009

Ah. Yea that's where I "got lucky" in that I was like, "Well it was within the past few days and while I don't remember who it was in it could only be like 1 of 4 possible teams"

# ? Feb 23, 2021 20:47

IcePhoenix: Sep 18, 2005; Take me to your Shida

Liquid Alliance with the major on the line let's goooooo

# ? Feb 23, 2021 21:03

Super-NintendoUser: Jan 16, 2004; COWABUNGERDER COMPADRES; Soiled Meat

Just to do the math, no matter what happens in this game there is still a chance that OG can make it right?

Alliance wins against Liquid/ OG wins against secret. - OG tied with Nigma for 3

code:

1 secret 6-1
2 alliance 5-2
3 nigma 4-3
3 og 4-3
5 liquid 3-4

Alliance wins/ OG loses secret. OG three way tie with Tundra, Liquid for 4

code:

1 secret 7-0
2 alliance 5-2
3 nigma 4-3
4 og 3-4
4 tundra 3-4
4 liquid 3-4

Liquid Wins / OG beat secret OG four way tie with Nigma, Liquid, alliance for 2

code:

1 secret 6-1
2 alliance 4-3
2 nigma 4-3
2 liquid 4-3
2 og 4-3 
6 tundra 3-4

Liquid Wins / OG loses to secret OG out

code:

1 secret 7-0
2 alliance 4-3
2 nigma 4-3
2 liquid 4-3
5 og 3-4 
6 tundra 3-4

Is my figurin right? This means that OG has a way in no matter what? The tie breaker rules are nuts to follow, some one just explain to me.

Super-NintendoUser fucked around with this message at 22:23 on Feb 23, 2021

# ? Feb 23, 2021 21:28

IcePhoenix: Sep 18, 2005; Take me to your Shida

You more or less have it yeah, that tracks with what I was pondering last night or whenever I did it before then.

# ? Feb 23, 2021 21:35

Super-NintendoUser: Jan 16, 2004; COWABUNGERDER COMPADRES; Soiled Meat

The only thing I don't follow is that on Reddit they are saying that if Alliances loses OG is out, but I can't math that out.

# ? Feb 23, 2021 21:36

Andrast: Apr 21, 2010

Jerk McJerkface posted:

The only thing I don't follow is that on Reddit they are saying that if Alliances loses OG is out, but I can't math that out.

I tink they are just assuming OG loses to secret in that scenario

# ? Feb 23, 2021 21:41

IcePhoenix: Sep 18, 2005; Take me to your Shida

Andrast posted:

I tink they are just assuming OG loses to secret in that scenario

Yeah pretty much.

This Windranger is doing work.

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sugar free jazz: Mar 5, 2008

alliance and liquid are two of the most fun/cool teams out there right now, imho

# ? Feb 23, 2021 21:54

IcePhoenix: Sep 18, 2005; Take me to your Shida

So many pro players are cowards who don't use the AM persona

# ? Feb 23, 2021 22:23

Centzon Totochtin: Jan 2, 2009

This is already a disaster for liquid

# ? Feb 23, 2021 22:25

Kortel: Jan 7, 2008; Nothing to see here.

I don't get this Brood pick.

# ? Feb 23, 2021 22:25

Super-NintendoUser: Jan 16, 2004; COWABUNGERDER COMPADRES; Soiled Meat

Centzon Totochtin posted:

This is already a disaster for liquid

kind of?

# ? Feb 23, 2021 22:30

Centzon Totochtin: Jan 2, 2009

Well they left the brood alone for some reason

# ? Feb 23, 2021 22:31

Kortel: Jan 7, 2008; Nothing to see here.

Centzon Totochtin posted:

Well they left the brood alone for some reason

No one really even bothering Brood. Wow.

# ? Feb 23, 2021 22:34

The REAL Goobusters: Apr 25, 2008

Oh my god Liquid are so good what the gently caress!!!!

# ? Feb 23, 2021 22:35

IcePhoenix: Sep 18, 2005; Take me to your Shida

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/dota2_gamepedia/images/d/d4/Vo_broodmother_broo_move_09.mp3

# ? Feb 23, 2021 22:36

Super-NintendoUser: Jan 16, 2004; COWABUNGERDER COMPADRES; Soiled Meat

Somewhere Sven is looking up at this Brood draft from the bottom the pick/ban list with his hands on his hips.

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IncendiaC: Sep 25, 2011

Good old last pick Brood

# ? Feb 23, 2021 22:37

Sudden Loud Noise: Feb 18, 2007

The REAL Goobusters posted:

Oh my god Liquid are so good what the gently caress!!!!

Liquid going with the unique "just be better at dota, gently caress the draft" strategy.

# ? Feb 23, 2021 22:37

The REAL Goobusters: Apr 25, 2008

This liquid draft and game are just so impressive to me. Brood and puck had to switch their lanes. S4 was kinda just owning as well. And then it all fell apart in like 2 minutes. Jesus

# ? Feb 23, 2021 22:38

Kortel: Jan 7, 2008; Nothing to see here.

Brood forcing Alliance to move around the map by just existing.
God drat I love watching Liquid when they pop off.

# ? Feb 23, 2021 22:40

IcePhoenix: Sep 18, 2005; Take me to your Shida

I think s4 roared the wrong target by accident

# ? Feb 23, 2021 22:43

Super-NintendoUser: Jan 16, 2004; COWABUNGERDER COMPADRES; Soiled Meat

The Brood shard with root is going to make this AM's uninstall Dota2.

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# ? Apr 16, 2024 05:52

IcePhoenix: Sep 18, 2005; Take me to your Shida

I'm glad Nikobaby is being punished for not using the persona

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