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esperterra
Mar 24, 2010

SHINee's back




Scylo posted:

I assume idols have appeared at starcraft things in the past so I could see it making sense to someone at Blizzard to get a kpop group. They should have performed Egotistic though if they were hoping to bring in new fans

HIP is by far the song the best song for a combo of western/korean audience imho. It brought them in their biggest influx of new fans when it dropped, iirc.

Bottom Liner posted:

SC remastered has very much made this a thing again (unless you specifically meant wide broadcast of which I have no idea). BW is way bigger in Korea again and SC2 is kinda floundering.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ta-zZKfeZUA

Yeah, I've been paying a bit of attention to ASL lately but not as much as I'd like. I'm glad BW has taken off again, b/c that game is so loving perfectly balanced that the meta STILL evolves to this day, and SCII is ... well, it's SCII.

Mostly I was just reminiscing about the glory days of when Gom first started doing their simulcasts and for some reason Gee played during every single ad break lmao. Used to stay up in a teamspeak with a bunch of goons every weekend getting wasted and yelling at our monitors with Tasteless, before they brought Artosis in and had him tone it down a bit.

e: anyway, the moral of the story is that there are many StarCraft players who are as or more famous than some of the biggest idols, so MAMAMOO performing at Blizzcon really isn't that weird

now i will try to stop this derail before i go on a lengthy rant about how YellOw always coming in second against BoxeR has been a running gag in several variety shows that feature one or both of them
I could even make it kpop related by virtue of Hani being a fixed cast member on Crime Scene 2 with YellOw
but i'll try to save such things for another day!!

e2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXpTzAzH-BA
oh no i did it anyway
not a hong jin ho is always second place joke, but there is a yell0w getting bunker rushed by boxer three times in a row joke and that's even better

esperterra fucked around with this message at 07:58 on Feb 22, 2021

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.Z.
Jan 12, 2008

esperterra posted:

Blizzard is ridiculously huge in Korea, and it's the company's 30th this year. So while I wasn't surprised by a kpop group performing for Blizzcon, MAMAMOO is not who I would have expected when I first saw that performance lmfao. Good on them tbh, a lot of groups prob would have killed to get that spot.

Yeah, I'm not shocked by there being Kpop at the Blizzcon. I'm just super surprised by them choosing Mamamoo. I think Blackpink would have been a better choice for such an international event. Maybe they didn't want to pay the cost and went with a group that fell within their budget.

edit:
Then again, maybe RBW was better positioned to talk to Blizzard at the time having just dealt with another large game publisher recently.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7eKVpkATo8

.Z. fucked around with this message at 07:59 on Feb 22, 2021

Bottom Liner
Feb 15, 2006


a specific vein of lasagna
Honestly Dreamcatcher is the obvious pick to fit the games and general Blizz vibe. That would have been dope.

Speaking of, they have a cool studio video for Wind Blows coming from Genie

https://twitter.com/genie_kt/status/1363722688154513413

esperterra
Mar 24, 2010

SHINee's back




.Z. posted:

Yeah, I'm not shocked by there being Kpop at the Blizzcon. I'm just super surprised by them choosing Mamamoo. I think Blackpink would have been a better choice for such an international event. Maybe they didn't want to pay the cost and went with a group that fell within their budget.

edit:
Then again, maybe RBW was better positioned to talk to Blizzard at the time having just dealt with another large game publisher recently.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7eKVpkATo8

Hwasa's brand deal for The Sims has provided some quality ridiculous content

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2lgXV22O8JA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PtTWofZhR4E

Vastakaiun
Apr 16, 2008

SHINee's back

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6OoY6xneI0

esperterra
Mar 24, 2010

SHINee's back





whew lad beaten by hair

esperterra
Mar 24, 2010

SHINee's back




This fuckin slaps

And now I'm even more curious what the BoA version would have sounded like, but I think she was right to pass on it for sounding too much like a group song.

whew she woulda eaten it up either way tho

e: now to decide whether i'm going to listen to the album now or go to sleep and do it tmw

life's dilemmas

esperterra fucked around with this message at 10:09 on Feb 22, 2021

Vastakaiun
Apr 16, 2008

I dig it, could see it becoming one of those songs that won't leave my head (like that last Victon comeback).

SHINee's really the only gen 2 k-pop I've gotten into, thanks to Taemin's solo stuff. Though I should give TVXQ a listen, I was obsessed with that last U-Know album.

Vastakaiun
Apr 16, 2008

poo poo, this album's so good. Every track's somehow better than the last one.

The REAL Goobusters
Apr 25, 2008
Just gotta say, I think it’s miraculous Blizzard even got Metallica AND mamamoo at their online event considering how awfully managed they are these days. But yeah I have to agree with whoever said they’re following Riot’s lead here.

MIDWIFE CRISIS
Nov 5, 2008

Ta gueule, laisse-moi finir.
New SHINee is so good

The single reminds me of EXO’s most recent singles (fast paced and focused on showing of vocal range), but the styling is very NCT. It’s an interesting direction for a post-enlistment group, and I’m happy that SM isn’t putting them into the adult contemporary box quite yet.

Whole album is bangers, not a single song I don’t like. This time the songs are obviously arranged and produced with their voices in mind whereas the last album sounded very thin at times, like the production was still adapted for one more voice to fill out the harmonies. This album feels more cohesive and they sound more balanced when singing, especially with Minho filling out the lower register. I’m glad someone bullied him into singing more. The harmonies on CODE are fire
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KO3awomKT4c

Kind hosed me up a bit when I first heard it. Taemin sounds so much like Jonghyun in the beginning, I had to check that it wasn’t some old recording they were working with.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1FOpKQr4DSM

MIDWIFE CRISIS fucked around with this message at 18:24 on Feb 22, 2021

esperterra
Mar 24, 2010

SHINee's back




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-I_KXMeoCO8

whew

esperterra
Mar 24, 2010

SHINee's back




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aui0ZKIaXVc

esperterra
Mar 24, 2010

SHINee's back




i too wish to live my best michelle pfeiffer life

now all we need is yenny to have a harley based comeback and we'll have all 3 gotham city sirens in wonder girl form

e: whew lad i can't wait to see the full choreo

e2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IIcSFQ3AKM8

e3: jfc so many live performances of these songs droppin all at once tonight. post gna get long if the performances from the showcase airing right now get uploaded as well before I go to sleep later

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4qVO-p5mkw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TlwQHtcevg

esperterra fucked around with this message at 11:32 on Feb 23, 2021

TV Zombie
Sep 6, 2011

Burying all the trauma from past nights
Burying my anger in the past

New Suran

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7eHt9deQJqg

Bottom Liner
Feb 15, 2006


a specific vein of lasagna
Well this came out of nowhere

https://youtu.be/pEFG9bpQHtI

https://youtu.be/1RQlxCtge2A

Schpyder
Jun 13, 2002

Attackle Grackle


I just stumbled upon this as well and I am here for it. Bold af for a debut.

Centusin
Aug 5, 2009
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0pwBFTUJBzQ

This song's pretty fun.

I was just looking over the latest updates on all of the current school bullying accusations, sounds like Chuu from Loona's accuser came forward and admitted to exaggerating but it doesn't seem like Soojin from G-idle's situation is getting cleared up yet, people seem to be saying korean netizens have decided she's guilty though because of the detail in the accusations. As a professional translator but not Korean language, not being able to learn all about something from the actual native language sources is frustrating as poo poo lmao

Centusin fucked around with this message at 15:25 on Feb 24, 2021

Schpyder
Jun 13, 2002

Attackle Grackle

I've been keeping up on that wave of accusations as well, mainly because it seems my fandom is the kiss of death. (G)I-DLE? Check. Everglow? Check. Stray Kids? Check. Monsta X? Check. HyunA? Check. Loona? Check. All I need is for one of the Dreamcatcher girls and Chung Ha to get allegations thrown at them and that would cover my entire current K-pop library. :sadpeanut:

Thom and the Heads
Oct 27, 2010

Farscape is actually pretty cool.
Wait what happened with Everglow?

Schpyder
Jun 13, 2002

Attackle Grackle

Thom and the Heads posted:

Wait what happened with Everglow?

Bullying allegations against Aisha. The k-pop Reddit has a pretty detailed megathread about all the accusations flying around.

TV Zombie
Sep 6, 2011

Burying all the trauma from past nights
Burying my anger in the past

What did Hyuna do?

TV Zombie
Sep 6, 2011

Burying all the trauma from past nights
Burying my anger in the past

CL with a song for her mom

https://youtu.be/aMWEv_YBd8M

Schpyder
Jun 13, 2002

Attackle Grackle

From what I can gather there's been a shitstorm of allegations against celebrities over the last few days due to the volleyball scandal last week-ish bringing school bullying back into the national spotlight, and Naver being about to drop their "most searched" tab which a lot of people fear will make it much easier for this kind of thing to get swept under the rug. How this has largely surfaced wrt k-pop idols is as a lot of mostly anonymous unverified accusations, ranging from the already-publicly-withdrawn (Loona's Chuu) to highly credible (Soojin). Most of them fall somewhere in the middle, and we don't really have any idea how it's going to shake out at this point.

More details (summaries, linked k-media articles) are in the OP of the megathread I linked above.




So, uh... how 'bout that PIXY debut?

The REAL Goobusters
Apr 25, 2008
Just saw the accusations of Soojin of drinking and smoking in high school, its wild cuz if that were here, none of this would matter. In fact almost none of this would matter here I don't think.

Bottom Liner
Feb 15, 2006


a specific vein of lasagna
Even the middle school bullying accusations wouldn’t matter here because we recognize that all kids can be assholes at that age. But Korea also has a major bullying issue (not that we don’t, but it’s different) and combined with unrealistic moral standards for idols it becomes a big deal. I personally haven’t seen anything that would make me stop being a fan of these groups.

I don’t think any of them will really stick or hurt these peoples careers though, since none of them seem even as bad as Irene’s scandal last year and even that went away after a while.


Edit: also Jennie and G-Dragon dating is going to overshadow all of this anyways

Bottom Liner fucked around with this message at 17:32 on Feb 24, 2021

esperterra
Mar 24, 2010

SHINee's back




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VsrAitj4fZA

The REAL Goobusters
Apr 25, 2008

Bottom Liner posted:

Even the middle school bullying accusations wouldn’t matter here because we recognize that all kids can be assholes at that age. But Korea also has a major bullying issue (not that we don’t, but it’s different) and combined with unrealistic moral standards for idols it becomes a big deal. I personally haven’t seen anything that would make me stop being a fan of these groups.

I don’t think any of them will really stick or hurt these peoples careers though, since none of them seem even as bad as Irene’s scandal last year and even that went away after a while.


Edit: also Jennie and G-Dragon dating is going to overshadow all of this anyways

Lmao a friend of mine DMed me this news from korean dispatch last night. She always tells me shes not into kpop but will be the first to let me know this type of stuff lmfao

anakha
Sep 16, 2009


Here's a compilation of BTS's performances from last night's Unplugged Presents:

Telepathy
Blue & Grey
Fix You (Orig. Coldplay)
Life Goes On
Dynamite

The Fix You cover was surprising since Coldplay doesn't usually allow that song to be covered AFAIK. Pleasant surprise though.

esperterra
Mar 24, 2010

SHINee's back




Bottom Liner posted:

I don’t think any of them will really stick or hurt these peoples careers though, since none of them seem even as bad as Irene’s scandal last year and even that went away after a while.

Irene's scandal hasn't gone away at all, though, it's just not talked about as much since she's pretty much halted all activities and isn't in the public eye-- she's barely been promoting her movie that just came out, from what I can tell. Girl has lost basically all of her CF deals, which were her bread and butter and kind of the main thing she was known for in Korea, and her brand reputation is still tanked, not to mention RV's comeback being pushed back. From what I understand, her movie is doing rather poorly as well (though this probably would have happened either way, she's not a very good actress and people are far less forgiving about iffy idol performances in film than in dramas).

I don't think we'll really know how well Irene will be able to recover from that scandal til after we see how RV's comeback is received.

esperterra fucked around with this message at 02:14 on Feb 25, 2021

Bottom Liner
Feb 15, 2006


a specific vein of lasagna
That’s good insight from the non music side of things so thanks. It just felt like everyone stopped talking about it in light of Wendy’s recovery and their performance at the SM online concert was the most talked about from what I saw.

In light of all this drama Twice received a shoutout from the Golden Disc Awards staff for being the nicest people to work with and recognizing them for how well they treat both their staff and the show staff so that was nice to see.

Bottom Liner fucked around with this message at 02:24 on Feb 25, 2021

Vastakaiun
Apr 16, 2008

ATEEZ released a preview of their next week's comeback, and it has me shaking.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CeP3XYwoOcs

esperterra
Mar 24, 2010

SHINee's back




I'm just gna leave these here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6pem2j6uh4s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xt2pGgCRLmo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eR6AIImMgdc

Bottom Liner
Feb 15, 2006


a specific vein of lasagna
Heart Attack is so good

TV Zombie
Sep 6, 2011

Burying all the trauma from past nights
Burying my anger in the past

The korean pokemon ost? they really could just sing the phonebook and make it good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWMrnQngSeM&feature=emb_title

Schpyder
Jun 13, 2002

Attackle Grackle

I really appreciate just how hard Dreamcatcher leans into their gimmick sometimes.

https://twitter.com/insomnicsy/status/1364953776675823619?s=21

.Z.
Jan 12, 2008

TV Zombie posted:

The korean pokemon ost? they really could just sing the phonebook and make it good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=34&v=iz8p9n8fJvo

Heh, Solar will never escape being Squirtle.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=34&v=iz8p9n8fJvo

esperterra
Mar 24, 2010

SHINee's back




MAMAMOO + the Pokemon theme is a beautiful journey that began years ago.

Bottom Liner
Feb 15, 2006


a specific vein of lasagna
Wheein with that first "Pikachuuuu" would have done some weird things to adolescent me. Always great to hear Moon singing too.

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TV Zombie
Sep 6, 2011

Burying all the trauma from past nights
Burying my anger in the past

CL- Wish You Were Here

https://youtu.be/aMWEv_YBd8M

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