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thetoughestbean posted:Don’t they have more total wins right now? 1 by ring out 2 by deaths 1 by totally legal and accepted poison Not a single win because they were just better than their opponent and this is all their wins.
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# ? Feb 23, 2021 07:31 |
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Carlos: Had the poo poo beaten out of him handily, only won via PURGATORY rules Falcon: Used poison, sorta, but still the closest thing to an actual victory Naidan: Let himself get killed by Ryuki (and that was his goal all along), so he won via PURGATORY rules Alan: Murdered, and ergo won via PURGATORY rules (also the Kure fully expected this to happen*) *Raian did offer Alan a chance to forfeit (and therefore net the Kengan Association a win) and live, but living is for people who know Meanwhile, Kengan's wins have been: Julius: Won fair and square, no techniques* used, only strength Misasa: Won fair and square in a special arena Agito: Won fair and square *Acute muscle control does not count as a technique under Julius's rulebook Mirror matches were... Gaolong vs Carlos: Boxing vs Boxing but somewhere along the line it stopped being a mirror match Julius vs Todo: Strength vs Strength Misasa vs Yumigahama: Fang vs Fang, more of a status thing than a fighting style thing Agito vs Lu: Formless vs Formless Raian vs Alan: Kure vs (Alt-)Wu, both descended from the same clan Masaki vs Jurota: Judo vs Judo Only 2 that weren't mirror were Ryuki vs Naidan (who were still connected via the Worm) and Rihito vs Falcon.
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# ? Feb 23, 2021 07:33 |
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Rihito vs Falcon are also connected through the common thread of Kuroki (being the teacher of Rihito and the person whom Falcon aspires to beat).
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# ? Feb 23, 2021 07:38 |
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falcon started his match using a cut-rate ripper before he moved on to more ridiculous gimmicks.
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# ? Feb 23, 2021 07:56 |
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Raws https://imgur.com/a/zHRoVHN Lots of words not much
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# ? Feb 25, 2021 11:15 |
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He keeps slamming me into the ground! -Masegta Kengan:abridged
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# ? Feb 25, 2021 14:38 |
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everyones favourite character makes an appearance https://mangadex.org/chapter/1222471/1
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# ? Feb 25, 2021 14:40 |
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Jose posted:everyones favourite character makes an appearance Much clearer chapter now Masaki clearly has at least some of the pain negation ability of his predecessor, And he is accelerating himself as he gets up and adapts to his opponent.
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# ? Feb 25, 2021 14:47 |
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This chapter retroactively makes Carlos a bigger chump Undefeated champ Carlos: Picks up new martial art from an Amazon book Undefeated champ Arashiyama: Eliminates a pre-requisite of grappling that everyone else needs to adhere to Rooting for you Masaki!
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# ? Feb 25, 2021 15:06 |
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Jose posted:everyones favourite character makes an appearance So basically Jurata is already going for the motion of the throw and he just hooks the opponent with the most slight contact. Thus nobody can react to them like a normal throw? So far this is still a good fight, a little wary that he's getting compared to gensai because I remember the last time someone got that. Also, Masaki's masochism levels are rising. He is getting faster.
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# ? Feb 25, 2021 15:07 |
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Heh, the guy on the first page is based on Teddy Riner, a French gold medalist judoka.
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# ? Feb 25, 2021 15:12 |
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Masaki is about to show us the power of being a pain pig
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# ? Feb 25, 2021 15:24 |
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Brought To You By posted:So basically Jurata is already going for the motion of the throw and he just hooks the opponent with the most slight contact. Thus nobody can react to them like a normal throw? So far this is still a good fight, a little wary that he's getting compared to gensai because I remember the last time someone got that. And then when Masaki starts getting up faster than Jurota can throw him, Jurota reveals the Real Realest Jurota: Groundwork.
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# ? Feb 25, 2021 16:16 |
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Brought To You By posted:So basically Jurata is already going for the motion of the throw and he just hooks the opponent with the most slight contact. Thus nobody can react to them like a normal throw? So far this is still a good fight, a little wary that he's getting compared to gensai because I remember the last time someone got that. Jurata's gimmick is Baki levels of bs
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# ? Feb 25, 2021 16:26 |
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Baki levels of BS? This is a comic where people with black eyes can go supersaiyan because of their genes or whtaver, ripping people in half with their hands and where one german guy has invented superhuman muscle control and is punching people through floors. It's already ridiculous
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# ? Feb 25, 2021 16:41 |
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Angry Lobster posted:Jurata's gimmick is Baki levels of bs I know, its great!
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# ? Feb 25, 2021 16:44 |
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Zzulu posted:Baki levels of BS? This is a comic where people with black eyes can go supersaiyan because of their genes or whtaver, ripping people in half with their hands and where one german guy has invented superhuman muscle control and is punching people through floors. It's already ridiculous Yeah, back in Kengan Ashura you already had: (a) Inaba's prehensile hair; (b) Gensai carving concrete into statues with his fingers; (c) Dr Death carving out his femurs and sticking them into his arms as bone swords, and coming back to life after his vertebrae were snapped; (d) Daredevil Muteba; (e) the death row prisoner with the octopus limbs and neck; (f) Niko deflecting bullets with his fist. If these don't shake your suspension of disbelief, then the sky should be the limit as far as "acceptable levels of BS" goes.
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# ? Feb 25, 2021 16:58 |
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Oh yeah?! Well what if I just strip naked and get real sweatY?! Whatcha gonna do about that mister Spider-Man throws?!
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# ? Feb 25, 2021 16:59 |
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Catpetter1981 posted:Yeah, back in Kengan Ashura you already had: i do like how the series has all of this and yet a former pro boxer is on par or better than a lot of it
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# ? Feb 25, 2021 17:34 |
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Catpetter1981 posted:Yeah, back in Kengan Ashura you already had: Sure, Ashura had a healthy dose of ridiculous poo poo, Omega has been tamer (my boy Raian aside) so far on that regard, although I'm fairly sure that's because the most colorfoul character have not appeared until now. Not complaining by the way, I like Baki stuff, it's just that the Koga arc has been pretty low powered compared to previous stuff. Edit: Oh yeah, I just had a flashback and Jurata's throwing technique kinda reminds me about a ridiculous throwing technique of one of the masters in History's Mightiest Discipline Kenichi. Angry Lobster fucked around with this message at 17:44 on Feb 25, 2021 |
# ? Feb 25, 2021 17:40 |
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Who was the last guy that got compared to Gensai? I don't remember that.
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# ? Feb 25, 2021 18:13 |
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Caidin posted:Oh yeah?! Well what if I just strip naked and get real sweatY?! Whatcha gonna do about that mister Spider-Man throws?! Original Masaki was still able to throw Muteba
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# ? Feb 25, 2021 18:33 |
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Electric Phantasm posted:Who was the last guy that got compared to Gensai? I don't remember that. Carlos. Ohma noted after the flashback that Carlos like Gensai had gotten to the point where he was so strong he was "lonely". Incidentally Artelier posted:This chapter retroactively makes Carlos a bigger chump I am however rooting against Masaki on this one. I just want both fighters to have a good showing no matter who wins.
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# ? Feb 25, 2021 19:11 |
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i'd prefer that the guy with Strong Fundamentals won. however, all the hype make him increasingly less likely to win.
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# ? Feb 25, 2021 20:14 |
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I'd like to see kogas uncle fight even if it's not going to happen
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# ? Feb 25, 2021 21:37 |
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gimme the GOD drat candy posted:i'd prefer that the guy with Strong Fundamentals won. however, all the hype make him increasingly less likely to win. The dream outcome of this match is for Jurota to win just so we can be reminded that in kengan, strong fundamentals trumps gimmicks. Please let this man actually be the 2nd coming of Gensai but for throws + groundwork instead of strikes + parry defense.
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# ? Feb 25, 2021 21:40 |
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Hayami's gonna frame cancel himself and dodge Jurota's grabs.
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# ? Feb 25, 2021 22:08 |
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Brought To You By posted:Carlos. Ohma noted after the flashback that Carlos like Gensai had gotten to the point where he was so strong he was "lonely". Incidentally Wait what was Carlos’ original concept?
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# ? Feb 25, 2021 22:45 |
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RatHat posted:Wait what was Carlos’ original concept? link He was supposed to just straight up be better than Gaolang at boxing and "on a whole other level" and the original fight was changed because Sandrovich thought he made the man too strong. Which is interesting because we now have a judoka that can flip a person with just a touch faster than people with the fist eye can appreciate.
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# ? Feb 25, 2021 23:16 |
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just dont see what Hayami can pull out to beat this guy sorry
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# ? Feb 25, 2021 23:23 |
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frajaq posted:just dont see what Hayami can pull out to beat this guy sorry Yeah at most I can only see this turning out like Gaolang vs. Kaneda.
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# ? Feb 25, 2021 23:27 |
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I mean if Masaki has the same deal as Meguro, then literally the only way to get him stop fighting would be to kill him and that would give Kengan Association the win, so....
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# ? Feb 25, 2021 23:31 |
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Brought To You By posted:link The powercreep...smh
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# ? Feb 25, 2021 23:32 |
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Lt. Lizard posted:I mean if Masaki has the same deal as Meguro, then literally the only way to get him stop fighting would be to kill him and that would give Kengan Association the win, so.... Or just make him physically incapable of getting up.
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# ? Feb 25, 2021 23:35 |
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Is it just me or does this motion-free "swing" throw seem kind of... not as offensively oriented as it could be? Sure, it helps you toss a guy without room for getting grappled with, but it seems like he's sending them spinning with their own momentum more than anything, so unless someone is charging in at full force the damage seems kinda mitigated. Not to mention it doesn't do too much to offset ukemi. I'm no expert on grappling in general and how judo works in particular, but it really strikes me as a high level sport move VS a way to smash someone up so they can't fight back. It definitely doesn't seem as spicy as other ur-techniques like the Devil lance, Gaolong's jabs, etc
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# ? Feb 26, 2021 01:03 |
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I think we're only seeing lvl 1 of apex Judo. This guy has just been throwing Meguro and then waiting for the 10 count while giving him the cold stare, probably waiting to see if he's right about whatever suspicions he has regarding Masaki and "Boy M". Plus, Hayami isn't doing anything that warrants more than just this swing throw.
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# ? Feb 26, 2021 02:50 |
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I'm wondering if something about the earbuds prevents him from going psycho, possibly through some sort of pseudoscience with brain vibrations. They think he's shaken up because he's hurt, because he's actually started to go insane. It might be that he's some sort of sociopath, what with the ability to easily manipulate people and make everyone think positively about him. I hope not, though, since that would basically be a completely different issue than his twin had (which was just "he gets off on pain and killing people." At the very least, I have a strong feeling he shares the "gets euphoria from pain" thing, even if he doesn't have the whole "likes killing people" thing going on.
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# ? Feb 26, 2021 03:03 |
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even relatively light throws still slam a person against the ground with the force of their entire body weight. it's not as overtly destructive as some of the dumb poo poo that happens in ka, but he keeps doing it over and over without being touched.
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# ? Feb 26, 2021 03:04 |
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Ytlaya posted:I'm wondering if something about the earbuds prevents him from going psycho, possibly through some sort of pseudoscience with brain vibrations. They think he's shaken up because he's hurt, because he's actually started to go insane. Yeah I hope he’s a legitimately good person who just goes nuts from pain in combat. Making him secretly evil seems too obvious.
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# ? Feb 26, 2021 06:11 |
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It would be a fun twist if Meguro totally has a counter for this dude, but is just taking these hits on purpose because pain literally feels good for him. Instead of being impossible to stop without killing, he has to overcome the fact that he wants the fight to keep going as long as possible.
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