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Megaman's Jockstrap posted:If you've ever read JJ Abrams's Superman: Flyby you should be very, very concerned at this news. He's not writing it, at least. I like JJ Abrams more than most people on these forums. But I agree, that script was bad. But he's just producing this, apparently. edit: Reposting the tweet for the new page. https://twitter.com/ComicBook/status/1365350572287807491
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Ahahahahahahahahah Superman is gonna be such a happy fella you guys.
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Feb 26, 2021 18:42
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I hope Cavill still plays the part. He's fantastic. I hope they announce Zack Snyder will direct just to see the discourse.
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Feb 26, 2021 18:44
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Megaman's Jockstrap posted:If you've ever read JJ Abrams's Superman: Flyby you should be very, very concerned at this news. or any of Coates' comics, for that matter
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Feb 26, 2021 18:47
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You will believe a superman can smile
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Feb 26, 2021 18:50
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Uncle Boogeyman posted:or any of Coates' comics, for that matter I have not read them. What's the scoop here?
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Feb 26, 2021 18:51
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Megaman's Jockstrap posted:I have not read them. What's the scoop here? they're just really, really boring (the Black Panther ones that I read anyway, although I heard the Captain America ones weren't any better). he's a good essayist but a bad comic book writer.
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Feb 26, 2021 18:52
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JJ Abrams movies make me think of a big friendly dog, so if nothing else I'll bet he'd make a crowd-pleaser Superman movie
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Feb 26, 2021 18:53
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Uncle Boogeyman posted:they're just really, really boring (the Black Panther ones that I read anyway, although I heard the Captain America ones weren't any better). he's a good essayist but a bad comic book writer. Well Superman is famously easy to make non-boring, so I wish him luck! lol we're hosed
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Feb 26, 2021 18:54
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After recent events, I just really don't look forward to Abrams commenting on the character's legacy in any way, shape or form. You just loving know it's gonna be "his" take on the character and it's got to be novel, energetic and unlike anything we've seen before. So Superman is going to drive his dad's car off a cliff while Beasty Boys plays.
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Feb 26, 2021 19:08
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Grendels Dad posted:After recent events, I just really don't look forward to Abrams commenting on the character's legacy in any way, shape or form. You just loving know it's gonna be "his" take on the character and it's got to be novel, energetic and unlike anything we've seen before. I'm okay with that
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Feb 26, 2021 19:11
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Grendels Dad posted:After recent events, I just really don't look forward to Abrams commenting on the character's legacy in any way, shape or form. You just loving know it's gonna be "his" take on the character and it's got to be novel, energetic and unlike anything we've seen before. Absolutely nobody is going to remember the movie 3 months after it comes out, so don't worry.
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Feb 26, 2021 19:17
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teagone posted:What are the odds JJ Abrams is gonna direct Man of Steel 2 now that he's in WB's stable with that gargantuan deal he signed with them? At least he's not directing. But still, lmao.
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Feb 26, 2021 19:26
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RBA Starblade posted:I'm okay with that Yeah the car thing was a bad example because I remember it drawing a lot of overblown negativity at the time but ultimately being OK in the movie. I just expect Enterprise in red and blue, and after MoS and BvS that just strikes me as supremely boring. And then there is the threat of it turning into a TFA/RoS abomination, with the nostalgia bait turned up to 11.
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Feb 26, 2021 19:31
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2house2fly posted:JJ Abrams movies make me think of a big friendly dog, so if nothing else I'll bet he'd make a crowd-pleaser Superman movie lol https://twitter.com/THR/status/1365361080046936074?s=20
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Feb 26, 2021 19:44
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I'm 100% game for a Michael B Jordan Superman tbh. [edit] Abrams being attached still has me a bit worried though, lol. Even if he's only producing.
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Feb 26, 2021 19:57
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Honestly Grant Morrison's Obama Superman has aged horrifically.
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Feb 26, 2021 20:08
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maybe I'm just super pessimistic and cynical but after everything with Ray Fisher, this is coming across as "we totally learned our lesson about POC characters and actors, look, here's a black Superman"
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Feb 26, 2021 20:08
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Aces High posted:maybe I'm just super pessimistic and cynical but after everything with Ray Fisher, this is coming across as "we totally learned our lesson about POC characters and actors, look, here's a black Superman" I'd like to be proven wrong but yeah, this is how I felt when I saw that. The timing of it is just too... yeah.
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Feb 26, 2021 20:14
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I would like to see a black Superman but set in the 50s or 60s. An invulnerable black person who could level the planet by themselves living in America in that time period could be a pretty interesting story. But if it's just another plain old Superman story But He's Black Now, ehhh
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Feb 26, 2021 20:18
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Aces High posted:maybe I'm just super pessimistic and cynical but after everything with Ray Fisher, this is coming across as "we totally learned our lesson about POC characters and actors, look, here's a black Superman" Oh yeah, 100%. Still, I don't want to preemptively hate this film. Even without Snyder, the WB DC films have a history of trying to make safe films and failing, occasionally to their benefit.
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Feb 26, 2021 20:31
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Hancock already dealt with Black Superman well enough to the point of having a white woman as his Kryptonite. I dont much get the point of this.
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Feb 26, 2021 20:33
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Coates' comics were all butt, MJB would not be a good Superman, and while I don't hate Abrams I don't really want him running something like this. Just gonna pour one out for McQuarrie's MoS sequel that never got a second look.
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Feb 26, 2021 20:37
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Like Whedon, Abrams is actually really good at casting and even if the film is bad whoever he casts would carry it
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Feb 26, 2021 20:42
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Darko posted:Hancock already dealt with Black Superman well enough to the point of having a white woman as his Kryptonite. I dont much get the point of this. canon
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Feb 26, 2021 20:43
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Aces High posted:maybe I'm just super pessimistic and cynical but after everything with Ray Fisher, this is coming across as "we totally learned our lesson about POC characters and actors, look, here's a black Superman" Nah, you're just being realistic. I'm almost certain this is announcement was made partly as damage control, lol. Still though, I like Michael B Jordan and will become a basic bitch simp for his Superman if they actually cast him.
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Feb 26, 2021 20:46
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Roman posted:Like Whedon, Abrams is actually really good at casting Uh
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Feb 26, 2021 20:48
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I was never into joss whedon's stuff and it aged even worse but he did make stars out of a bunch of people. I don't give a poo poo about Firefly but the cast was great Ridley, Boyega, and Isaac made the last SW films seem better than they were. new star trek casting was really good but the films were ehhhh Roman fucked around with this message at 20:58 on Feb 26, 2021 |
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Feb 26, 2021 20:54
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Aces High posted:maybe I'm just super pessimistic and cynical but after everything with Ray Fisher, this is coming across as "we totally learned our lesson about POC characters and actors, look, here's a black Superman" It’s coming out at the exact same time as a Variety article that has no new information on the Whedon controversy that absolves the studios of any wrongdoing, and Fisher has always said that WB’s plan is going to be to throw Whedon under the bus to save Johns, Berg, and Hamada. Also Coates’ comics were all loving horrendous, Dickeye had some great write ups of them back in the day but I can’t find them now.
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Feb 26, 2021 20:59
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Roman posted:I was never into joss whedon's stuff and it aged even worse but he did make stars out of a bunch of people. I don't give a poo poo about Firefly but the cast was great I mean, I love the cast of most of his shows, but he's been kind of exposed as a sex pest. At the very least he cheated on his wife with supporting actresses, and then there is the ominous "Michelle Trachtenberg shouldn't be left alone with him" thing.
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Feb 26, 2021 21:00
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Grendels Dad posted:I mean, I love the cast of most of his shows, but he's been kind of exposed as a sex pest. At the very least he cheated on his wife with supporting actresses, and then there is the ominous "Michelle Trachtenberg shouldn't be left alone with him" thing. I don't think he's been exposed as a sex pest. We've gotten hints but not even Trachtenberg has called him on it. That said, not every kind of abuse is sexual in nature, but non-sexual abuse is still abuse.
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Feb 26, 2021 21:09
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Pirate Jet posted:It’s coming out at the exact same time as a Variety article that has no new information on the Whedon controversy that absolves the studios of any wrongdoing, and Fisher has always said that WB’s plan is going to be to throw Whedon under the bus to save Johns, Berg, and Hamada. i was trying to find Dickeye's writeups of TNC's Captain America comics too, I remember them being savage
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Feb 26, 2021 21:15
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I'm curious to read these if you guys happen to find them. I know nothing of this man's work .
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Everyone posted:I don't think he's been exposed as a sex pest. We've gotten hints but not even Trachtenberg has called him on it. Fair point, but his ex-wife claims he cheated on her with people from the show and he all but confirmed it by going "What should I have done, not sleep with those girls?!" And directors/producers sleeping with their actresses is not great under the best of circumstances.
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Everyone posted:I don't think he's been exposed as a sex pest. We've gotten hints but not even Trachtenberg has called him on it. “Joss Whedon” posted:When I was running ‘Buffy,’ I was surrounded by beautiful, needy, aggressive young women. It felt like I had a disease, like something from a Greek myth. Suddenly I am a powerful producer and the world is laid out at my feet and I can’t touch it. Dude is loving gross about women and sex and using his newfound power to gently caress his employees is definitely abusive.
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Feb 26, 2021 21:20
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JJ Abrams? Like does no one in Hollywood learn their lesson? I declare it a turd dead on arrival. Like this whole process is going to be zapping a zombie to life. Ugh. The man cannot hack it in any capacity.
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Feb 26, 2021 21:41
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Jimbot posted:I'm curious to read these if you guys happen to find them. I know nothing of this man's work . He has excellent essays on race if you haven't read them. Just not that great of a comic writer.
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Feb 26, 2021 21:58
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I'm kind of hopeful that even if Coates' fiction writing isn't the best the big ideas will come through better in a movie format, where the more memorable/powerful ideas can be given proper context while the meat and potatoes storytelling will be the director's job to hammer out. I guess it really will depend on who they get to direct.
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Feb 26, 2021 22:15
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Megaman's Jockstrap posted:Honestly Grant Morrison's Obama Superman has aged horrifically. probably because Obama's closest comic-book analogue is DCAU Lex
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