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christmas boots posted:I mean, if ever there was a situation to bring up "but what about MALE victims??" statutory rape of boys by adult women is probably the one. Hell, look at Macron and that poo poo is borderline romanticized. i remember reading somewhere that as soon as the authorities started taking the statutory rape of young boys by adult female teachers a little more seriously, the relative % of women being convicted for it went up eleven times in canada... previously, only edge cases like the statutory rape of an extremely young boy were seriously followed up on, or if it was the statutory rape of a little girl by a female teacher - pretty much everything else was ignored nice, indeed to give further weight to the issue, some sociologists predict that once authorities start treating these crimes as seriously as the statutory rape of young girls by adult male teachers, the relative % of female teacher convictions will not only reach parity with male teachers, but actually exceed it, given that female teachers comprise the majority of the profession - either way, there's definitely real work to do in the area whether that's true or not
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VinylonUnderground posted:France doesn't have the concept of statutory rape so in a feat of legal magic, pedophilia doesn't exist in France. Consented to joining a fire department?
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Gaunab posted:Consented to joining a fire department? Misread.
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Gaunab posted:Consented to joining a fire department? No, the whole department raped her, I'm guessing from context.
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christmas boots posted:I mean, if ever there was a situation to bring up "but what about MALE victims??" statutory rape of boys by adult women is probably the one. Hell, look at Macron and that poo poo is borderline romanticized. Hulu just did a show called "A Teacher" about this that does the exact opposite. It didn't exactly thrill the critics but it does basically say that when that happens it ruins both their lives in different ways and the teacher is always the abuser in that situation. HopperUK posted:No, the whole department raped her, I'm guessing from context. France is....pretty far behind in the law in terms of looking out for the welfare of children. quote:Protests will take place across France on Sunday in support of a woman allegedly raped by 20 firefighters when she was between 13 and 15 years old. Her case is being examined in the country’s highest court this week and campaigners hope it will lead to an age of sexual consent being enshrined in law as it is in the rest of the European Union. pentyne has a new favorite as of 21:37 on Feb 26, 2021 |
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pentyne posted:Hulu just did a show called "A Teacher" about this that does the exact opposite. It didn't exactly thrill the critics but it does basically say that when that happens it ruins both their lives in different ways and the teacher is always the abuser in that situation. Jesus christ
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The French are the embodiment of the joke “you can have sex with a hundred people over the age of 18 but all anyone cares about is the one time you had sex with a 16 year old” except it’s not a joke
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Well at least they banned beating children in the 21st century.
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Fish of hemp posted:Well at least they banned beating children in the 21st century. Language is a funny thing. In America, you can beat a child but you can't beat a child's meat. In France, you can beat a child's meat but you can't beat a child.
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oldpainless posted:The French are the embodiment of the joke “you can have sex with a hundred people over the age of 18 but all anyone cares about is the one time you had sex with a 13 ftfy
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VinylonUnderground posted:Language is a funny thing. In America, you can beat a child but you can't beat a child's meat. In France, you can beat a child's meat but you can't beat a child. I don’t think you’re supposed to beat a child in America either
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Spanking is common and saying you shouldn't do it is controversial in many circles
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Neito posted:Spanking is common and saying you shouldn't do it is controversial in many circles According to the child abuse prevention class I had to take for work once spanking is fine and not abuse unless you leave a mark
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Also use a phone book cus it doesn't leave bruises.
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thetoughestbean posted:I don’t think you’re supposed to beat a child in America either yeah tell that to private schools and camps that steal kids in the middle of the night Neito posted:Spanking is common and saying you shouldn't do it is controversial in many circles yeah
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Speaking of, I feel like a lot of shows in the 90s or so had a lot of plotlines of "character a does something bad, character b spanks them, character a's parents object, but in the end are proven wrong" style plot lines. Even as a kid I felt like there was some bullshit there.
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Did someone ay... Spanking??? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6IXyf8CP6Fw
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If you want to have a crazy argument, next time someone comes at you pro spanking, come back at them pro elder abuse. Deep down i know it's just bullying, but it really feels great. I feel every reason to hit a child is a valid argument of why i can, no SHOULD beat up the elderly, and any reason i shouldn't is a reason they should keep their drat hands to their selves and leave those kids alone.
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Toshimo posted:Did someone ay... Spanking??? why did i scroll to the comments?
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it’s so crazy to me that apparently a husband non-erotically spanking his wife was... a thing? i don’t know how common it was back in the day but wtf
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nishi koichi posted:it’s so crazy to me that apparently a husband non-erotically spanking his wife was... a thing? i don’t know how common it was back in the day but wtf It goes back to the fact that men viewed children and wives as similar, nonhuman things.
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I’m sure it’s been brought up in the thread before but The Slap was the last big example I could think of that did that plot.
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Classic Roseanne (before the stroke and brainworms set in) had a good balanced take on it, in that you understood why she went as far as she did, and Dan and Jackie had a bit of a debate throughout the episode, Dan coming from a perspective of a more emotionally abusive childhood so not having any experience with it and so thinking it was fine and Jackie coming from a physically abusive childhood and recognising that it wasn't a punitive thing she was doing, it was just losing her temper because their dad was the same way (although worse). It all comes down to a very depressed and regretful Roseanne talking to DJ about the incident, and apologising because she remembered how that kind of behaviour made HER feel towards her dad and she didn't want DJ to feel that way about her.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Qup9lOPQfg I know Desi Arnez was famous for beating her in real life, but I feel like this has to be representative of what audiences found acceptable in the era.
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nishi koichi posted:it’s so crazy to me that apparently a husband non-erotically spanking his wife was... a thing? i don’t know how common it was back in the day but wtf here's a good article about this edit: https://theattic.jezebel.com/i-dont-know-whether-to-kiss-you-or-spank-you-a-half-ce-1769140132 edit 2: \/\/\/ drat you for also reading this Benagain has a new favorite as of 20:12 on Feb 28, 2021 |
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Toshimo posted:Did someone ay... Spanking??? nishi koichi posted:it’s so crazy to me that apparently a husband non-erotically spanking his wife was... a thing? i don’t know how common it was back in the day but wtf Neito posted:It goes back to the fact that men viewed children and wives as similar, nonhuman things.
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The most recent comedy that I can think of that had spanking as a plot point was The Office (season 6 maybe?) where Michael is sick of his lovely nephew/intern. I think they were going for absurdist humor, but beating your relative in front of your employees to show dominance is a super weird flex.Antifa Turkeesian posted:I know Desi Arnez was famous for beating her in real life, but I feel like this has to be representative of what audiences found acceptable in the era. Holy gently caress I did not know this.
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I learned on Twitter the other day that child pornography was not specifically illegal in the UK until 1987! Presumably it fell under obscenity laws before, but still ... Speaking of the UK, I rewatched cult-classic horror spoof Garth Marenghi's Darkplace last Halloween, and there's a show I wouldn't recommend now without a warning about the Troma-style grossout gags (one involving onscreen rape) and extreme misogyny (which is at least one of the creators' satirical targets, but your mileage may vary on how well that satire is done). Then again, the show is 16 years old now, and unlike South Park, it hasn't had 20 seasons to wear out its welcome (there is a not-as-good sequel series: Man to Man with Dean Learner).
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CHIMlord posted:I learned on Twitter the other day that child pornography was not specifically illegal in the UK until 1987! Presumably it fell under obscenity laws before, but still ... There was a period where The Sun newspaper website had the largest public accessible child porn archive on the internet. It had a long-standing tradition of putting titty pics on page three, with some of its models being as young as 16 before the law raised the limit to 18. For a time, the Sun's website had back issues with all those pictures intact.
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Just as a fyi: The term "child pornography" is pretty outdated and according to the victims actively harmful. A better term is something like "documentation of sexual abuse".BioEnchanted posted:Classic Roseanne (before the stroke and brainworms set in) had a good balanced take on it, in that you understood why she went as far as she did, and Dan and Jackie had a bit of a debate throughout the episode, Dan coming from a perspective of a more emotionally abusive childhood so not having any experience with it and so thinking it was fine and Jackie coming from a physically abusive childhood and recognising that it wasn't a punitive thing she was doing, it was just losing her temper because their dad was the same way (although worse).
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Alhazred posted:Just as a fyi: The term "child pornography" is pretty outdated and according to the victims actively harmful. A better term is something like "documentation of sexual abuse". There are places in the US where school administrators are allowed to dole out spankings, sometimes with wooden paddles.
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CHIMlord posted:I learned on Twitter the other day that child pornography was not specifically illegal in the UK until 1987! Presumably it fell under obscenity laws before, but still ... I believe for a while it was (maybe still is?) covered under the same act that outlawed VHS piracy.
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My grandma threw sandals at me and my cousins when we were being dumb, I never realized spanking wasn't normal until I was an adult. It's weird to me seeing people say americans hit their kids because in my experience, my American friends are the ones who call it abuse instead of normal parenting.
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Man what is it with the British and sexual deviancy?!
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Don Gato posted:My grandma threw sandals at me and my cousins when we were being dumb, I never realized spanking wasn't normal until I was an adult. It's weird to me seeing people say americans hit their kids because in my experience, my American friends are the ones who call it abuse instead of normal parenting. yeah we say that now because we had it happen to us and we know though there’s still lots of la chancla jokes. i grew up as the kid of caribbean immigrants and yeah, corporal punishment was huge. iirc a ton of it is from slavery and colonial rule, that got handed down it isn’t normal parenting to hit your kid, regardless of culture nishi koichi has a new favorite as of 20:26 on Mar 1, 2021 |
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Fish of hemp posted:Man what is it with the British and sexual deviancy?! Fish of hemp posted:British
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If you think about it anyone you hit was someone's kid at one point or the other.
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It might be cheating to mention state party platforms, but a number of US state Republican Party platforms have the preservation of spanking in school by teachers as a core part of their public education goals. Getting hit by a teacher in class is so hosed up to me that I couldn’t even imagine it happening as a kid. Even my parents considered it inconceivable.
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CHIMlord posted:Speaking of the UK, I rewatched cult-classic horror spoof Garth Marenghi's Darkplace last Halloween, and there's a show I wouldn't recommend now without a warning about the Troma-style grossout gags (one involving onscreen rape) and extreme misogyny (which is at least one of the creators' satirical targets, but your mileage may vary on how well that satire is done). Then again, the show is 16 years old now, and unlike South Park, it hasn't had 20 seasons to wear out its welcome (there is a not-as-good sequel series: Man to Man with Dean Learner).
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Antifa Turkeesian posted:It might be cheating to mention state party platforms, but a number of US state Republican Party platforms have the preservation of spanking in school by teachers as a core part of their public education goals. In the nineties I briefly went to a private school in alabama for kindergarten where the teacher would hit us on the wrist with a ruler as a punishment. Every time she hit me, which was probably a dozen times, it was because she decided she could not adequately identify who was responsible for something and decided just to punish every person in the class. She also repeatedly threatened to have the whole class arrested and sent to jail. All I can say is thank god we didn't stay in alabama for long.
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