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Okay I'm already regretting opening this can of worms, haha. So we're in a MCU timeline where all of the following are true: - Thanos destroyed the stones. - The time-travel heist happened, creating multiple timelines, one of which being the current MCU one where all of the Avengers successfully returned with the stones. - Cap went back in time to try to put the stones back, creating yet-more timelines, one of which being the current MCU one where somehow he was successful at preserving most/all original events, including everything which happened in IW/Endgame. Side question: Was it addressed how Cap planned on putting back the offworld stones?
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Mar 1, 2021 06:05
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jassa posted:Side question: Was it addressed how Cap planned on putting back the offworld stones? Cap on a Ravager ship sounds like fun.
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Mar 1, 2021 06:08
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Thinking about it, I wonder if it was awkward when he went to return the Soul Stone
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Mar 1, 2021 06:10
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https://twitter.com/C_GraceT/status/1366065188227710979?s=20
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Mar 1, 2021 06:11
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Cap didn't create any alternate realities so long as he put the stones back right where the rest of the team got him. Why are people so mad about that grief line? I thought it was pretty good, especially the way Bettany delivered it.
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Mar 1, 2021 06:12
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Everyone that uses twitter has a broken brain, basically. Myself included
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Mar 1, 2021 06:18
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Kathy Najimy liked a post I made and my Twitter has been downhill ever since that peak.
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Mar 1, 2021 06:34
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i feel like any piece of dramatic dialogue written anywhere will forever have a division of people who think it's deep and insightful and people who think tryhard shallow bullshit
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Mar 1, 2021 06:46
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Codependent Poster posted:Cap didn't create any alternate realities so long as he put the stones back right where the rest of the team got him. Him staying in the past to dance with Peggy before the two of them spent the next 50 years kicking Hydra rear end created a pretty fun sounding alternate reality that I hope Loki gets to visit
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Mar 1, 2021 06:48
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Codependent Poster posted:Cap didn't create any alternate realities so long as he put the stones back right where the rest of the team got him. quote:Why are people so mad about that grief line? I thought it was pretty good, especially the way Bettany delivered it.
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Mar 1, 2021 06:52
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Why can’t it just be what it is, a bittersweet line from one comic book character trying to comfort another?
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Mar 1, 2021 07:36
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I’m excited to see Loki as D.B. Cooper.
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Mar 1, 2021 07:41
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The new timeline idea is because when they went back the first time it created a split timeline, so when Steve tries to go back the second time then logically it should take him back to another split timeline, not a version where he can replace stones (the stones won't get abducted in the timeline he goes back to because they can't change the past - that's the whole premise). The way they talk about it it's as though Steve is expected to go back in time to the alternate timeline and hide from both the original Avengers and the endgame Avengers, until the moment he can replace the stones. Which is ironically how time travel works in back to the future 2. Basically it doesn't make much sense. No time travel media does. It makes even less sense when you try and wonder how Steve returned from the alternate timeline where he got married.
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Mar 1, 2021 08:01
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In Endgame: Ancient One: if you take the stones out of time it will create other timelines Hulk: not if we go put them back when we're done me, a stupid idiot: yeah that makes sense brainful geniususes all over the internet: okaY BuT WHAT IF they made MULTIPLE. timelines? the thing that they had, said wasn't the thing,. what if there's is a new timleinel
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Mar 1, 2021 08:16
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Perhaps one of the new branching timelines will feature Dracula and the Wolfman and maybe even Frankenstein’s monster. The Mummy could show up and cuss someone out. MCU and Universal Monsters together at long last.
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Mar 1, 2021 08:18
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Big Mean Jerk posted:Why can’t it just be what it is, a bittersweet line from one comic book character trying to comfort another? Because twitter is a hell of our own making, that's why.
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Gonz posted:Perhaps one of the new branching timelines will feature Dracula and the Wolfman and maybe even Frankenstein’s monster. The Mummy could show up and cuss someone out. Marvel's already got this covered. They've all been around for a long time.   Son of a Vondruke! fucked around with this message at 08:48 on Mar 1, 2021 |
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Mar 1, 2021 08:43
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Big Mean Jerk posted:Why can’t it just be what it is, a bittersweet line from one comic book character trying to comfort another? Because when they post lines from great novels 1 in 5 tweets get a retweet.
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Mar 1, 2021 08:46
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Gonz posted:Perhaps one of the new branching timelines will feature Dracula and the Wolfman and maybe even Frankenstein’s monster. The Mummy could show up and cuss someone out. WandaVision season 2: monster squad
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Mar 1, 2021 08:58
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Son of a Vondruke! posted:Marvel's already got this covered. They've all been around for a long time. HOLY HELL
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Bleck posted:In Endgame: Didn't Endgame have a stinger with things going different with Loki in the past because of the time travel changes?
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Mar 1, 2021 09:06
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They absolutely created divergent timelines with the time heists. The Winter Soldier would have played out very differently if Sitwell thought Cap was Hydra, for one.
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socialsecurity posted:Didn't Endgame have a stinger with things going different with Loki in the past because of the time travel changes? Endgame had no during or post credits scenes. Loki exited the narrative once he teleported away.
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Mar 1, 2021 09:27
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Dracula has basically been a Marvel villain for years, Blade and all, and has fought everyone from the X-Men to Luke Cage.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Dracula has basically been a Marvel villain for years, Blade and all, and has fought everyone from the X-Men to Luke Cage. Yeah, but he's no MICHAEL MORBIUS! Fetch me the NEOGENIC RECOMBINATOR!
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Mar 1, 2021 10:31
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The United States posted:They absolutely created divergent timelines with the time heists. The Winter Soldier would have played out very differently if Sitwell thought Cap was Hydra, for one. Thanos (and Nebula and his whole army) are dead in the Power Stone timeline, which will probably have some positive effects, but also Gamora is gone, which means that the Guardians don't exist and that there's no one to stop Ronan from destroying Xander/generally being a space tyrant. But considering that he escaped with a mindstone, Sitwell will probably just it was Loki in the elevator when Cap starts roughing him up. Though with Loki gone, there's no one to hide Odin on Earth so Ragnarok gets all messed up. live with fruit fucked around with this message at 10:52 on Mar 1, 2021 |
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Mar 1, 2021 10:38
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:The question I got asked more than any other after Endgame is where did Loki go? What happened to Loki? This series will tell you what happened to Loki right after that. He goes to a number of places.
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Mar 1, 2021 11:30
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sticklefifer posted:Pretty hyped for Sliders But Loki Starring Sabrina Lloyd
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Mar 1, 2021 12:31
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Z7bZOJV3v8 Olsen spoiled the whole show for us four years ago
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Mar 1, 2021 12:52
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My main takeaway from all that was the shot of Elizabeth Olsen holding a D20 cutout just made me imagine how horrible she'd be as a D'n'D player. "Oh boy, another natural 20; what are the odds!". Her, or Domino.
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Mar 1, 2021 13:03
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Bleck posted:In Endgame: kilus aof posted:Because when they post lines from great novels 1 in 5 tweets get a retweet. 
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Mar 1, 2021 13:50
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tsob posted:My main takeaway from all that was the shot of Elizabeth Olsen holding a D20 cutout just made me imagine how horrible she'd be as a D'n'D player. "Oh boy, another natural 20; what are the odds!". Her, or Domino. Now I want a weird Marvel sketch show just so I can see a sketch where Scarlet Witch, Domino, Destiny, Black Cat and Longshot are all playing DND.
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Mar 1, 2021 14:01
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The same source that gave accurate info on the runtime of previous episodes has said that ep 9 will be 50 minutes long, and that there is no 10th episode.
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Mar 1, 2021 14:09
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mind the walrus posted:Seriously they do a visual diagram and everything, and Banner explains before the time travel that anything they do to change the past becomes the past retroactively. It's silly nonsense but all of this stuff is. That's explicitly what Banner says doesn't happen - they can't change the past. Otherwise Thanos would have already have been dead well before Infinity War since they kill 2014 Thanos. They go back in time and change things, but those changes are now localised in a new timeline - they will affect the future of that timeline but not the original Prime timeline (which has an immutable past). The problem is that logic is inconsistent with the idea of 1) replacing the stones at the moment they were taken (because all the stone heist stuff was never part of their pasts, and within those timelines the reappearance of Steve just causes another timeline split), and also 2) Steve going the long way around to meet up at the time machine at the end of the film.
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Ravel posted:That's explicitly what Banner says doesn't happen - they can't change the past. Otherwise Thanos would have already have been dead well before Infinity War since they kill 2014 Thanos. They go back in time and change things, but those changes are now localised in a new timeline - they will affect the future of that timeline but not the original Prime timeline (which has an immutable past). The problem is that logic is inconsistent with the idea of 1) replacing the stones at the moment they were taken (because all the stone heist stuff was never part of their pasts, and within those timelines the reappearance of Steve just causes another timeline split), and also 2) Steve going the long way around to meet up at the time machine at the end of the film. Except we are also told that the Infinity Stones are what creates timelines so basically the film says don't think about it too much but also there aren't other timelines really spinning off.
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thebardyspoon posted:Now I want a weird Marvel sketch show just so I can see a sketch where Scarlet Witch, Domino, Destiny, Black Cat and Longshot are all playing DND. Nah, if Destiny's playing, she's the GM since her future sight is about the only thing that might be able to gently caress with all the players rolling constant nat 20s. Or maybe you get a Uata to do it.
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Alchenar posted:Except we are also told that the Infinity Stones are what creates timelines so basically the film says don't think about it too much but also there aren't other timelines really spinning off. I just think that with Multiverses becoming an explicit thing, they don't want to complicate matters further by going "oh and also there are these divergent timelines." Multiverse is already a hard enough sell, why increase the granularity there?
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Ravel posted:The problem is that logic is inconsistent with the idea of 1) replacing the stones at the moment they were taken (because all the stone heist stuff was never part of their pasts, and within those timelines the reappearance of Steve just causes another timeline split) Agree with all the other stuff you said, but I don't see how this is really a problem. So they go back in time to get the stones, and when they do, it causes a split: Timeline 1, where they DIDN'T re-enter the past to borrow the stones (i.e. the main MCU); and Timeline 2 where they DID re-enter the past to borrow the stones. In Timeline 2, Loki escapes, Sitwell thinks Cap is Hydra, and eventually their Thanos leaves and dies, so Timeline 2 ends up with some noticable differences from Timeline 1. When Cap returns to the past to return the stones, he has a couple of options. He could return to his own past, the timeline where the stones were never borrowed - doing so would create Timeline 3, a universe with two sets of stones, the untouched original set plus the returned set. Obviously that's not what he wants to do. OR, he could re-enter Timeline 2 at a later point, and yes, doing so creates a split - Timeline 2.1, where the stones are borrowed and NOT returned (the default, which according to the Ancient One will be hosed), and Timeline 2.2, where the stones are borrowed and in fact returned by Cap. Is it depressing to think that the doomed Timeline 2.1 exists, and cannot be prevented from existing? I guess yes, but the nature of a branching universe is that (even without time travel) there are an infinite number of what-if timelines doomed because the Avengers failed at any number of critical points. They lost to Loki here, they lost to Cul Obsidian there. Nobody can stop those timelines from existing either. The best one can hope for is that you can work towards *some* timelines out there that get a good ending.
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There are no timeline splits. Every individual has their own personal timeline (which is why your past can never be your future). When you access the quantum real all of time is happening 'simultaneously' at once and you get to move from moment to moment at will without worrying about causality beyond what happens to you. Unless you pick up a magic infinity stone, in which case consequences suddenly get very real.
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